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PartyVaN
Minmatar The Hand Trade Alliance ORION FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:10:00 -
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I've always wondered about the size naming conventions given to turrets in EvE. Lets take for example the 75mm RailGun. Now when a metric size is used to describe a weapon (75mm), generally it refers to the diameter of the barrel of the gun. And going along those lines, the 125mm Rail Gun and 150mm Railgun have bigger barrels and naturally do more damage. But when you think about the ammo that these guns use, this style of naming doesnt work at all (the 75, 125, 150mm Railguns' all use the same "small" hybrid ammo, but how can the same small charge fit in both a 75mm Barrel as well as a 125 and 150mm barrel). The only way this naming convention makes sense is if the size is in regard to barrel length. This; however, doesn't seem to fit with the volume of most weapons, as the enormous 1000.0 m3 Dual 1000mm Railgun would only have a barrel length of... 1 meter.
So what exactly is the weapon size in relation to? Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Bazman
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:14:00 -
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For railguns i believe its meant to be the lenght of the superconductive rail that accellerates the shell, not the diameter of the barrel. Not that it really matters anyway. Can you imagine how horrible it would be to have a different ammo type for every single size of gun. -----
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X99 Z990
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:14:00 -
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Its a game.
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Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: X99 Z990 Its a game.
I'm really starting to like your sig
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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Kunming
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kharakan
Originally by: X99 Z990 Its a game.
I'm really starting to like your sig
Me too
BTW yeah its a game!
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Idara
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:23:00 -
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What's the deal with lasers, folks.
I mean...Giga Beam...Giga what? They should call them Really Big Lasers!
Mega Beam? Mega-kind-of-easier-to-fit-but-worse-damage-than-Tachyon Beams?
('tis me joking BTW) ---
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PartyVaN
Minmatar The Hand Trade Alliance ORION FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: PartyVaN on 02/02/2007 23:30:14 What so a game cant make a slight amount of sense?
Its not just railguns, Arty and ACs have the same naming style. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Ikvar
The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: PartyVaN This; however, doesn't seem to fit with the volume of most weapons, as the enormous 1000.0 m3 Dual 1000mm Railgun would only have a barrel length of... 1 meter.
The measurement doesn't refer to the length of the barrel. There is a problem though, the model for the Dual 1000mm Rail is bigger than a frig, but as you've said the barrel is only 1m in diameter so the model is far too big.
But really, who actually cares? It looks cool
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PartyVaN
Minmatar The Hand Trade Alliance ORION FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: PartyVaN on 02/02/2007 23:33:47 I dont "actually care", Im just wondering. Your explanation works for the capital sized guns, but what about BS sized weapons. 425mm Railgun is twenty cubic meters but has a barrel length of under half a meter? Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Danii
CryoTech
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:48:00 -
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Worrying about ammo size vs barrel diameter is a bit anal imo. I'm sure, however, that the Dev that designed this naming convention will be overjoyed that you pointed it out. Sorting out some of the other things, like "medium" small guns might well be worth doing though.
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xHalcyonx
Amarr EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.02.02 23:53:00 -
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Railgun Sabot?
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PartyVaN
Minmatar The Hand Trade Alliance ORION FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.02.03 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: PartyVaN on 03/02/2007 01:48:59 **** i was just asking a damn question. I don't understand what the gun measurements are referring to so i came here to ask. If you read what i wrote you'll see i never asked for it to be changed. If you don't know or don't have a guess then dont ******* post.
Pathetic... Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Tunajuice
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.03 02:03:00 -
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People explained it. very carefully. 4 different times. You seem to have a comprehension problem. Or you are just dense.
The names are arbritary numbers used to show relative size. Sure the math doesn't work out, but who cares. They are just meant to be names to tell apart frigate_railgun_1 from frigate_railgun_2. They are not meant to be an actual measurement of a fictious object in fantasy video game.
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PartyVaN
Minmatar The Hand Trade Alliance ORION FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.02.03 02:24:00 -
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I see one somewhat solid idea (that would explain railguns), and two more random ideas. Nothing was explained fully.
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William Hamilton
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Posted - 2007.02.03 04:52:00 -
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Could be tradition based,
For example, mimitar weapons were once all designed with a barrel that is 65 (just throwing up a random number) times as long as their diameter, when they standerdised ammo for starship use they kept the naming convention in a way that "This gun is as long as a gun would traditonaly be if it had a bore of XXX"
As such, minnie guns are all 65x as long as the quoted number.
Same thing could go for rails, but with a differnt numebr.
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Druadan
Gallente Aristotle Enterprises Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.03 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: PartyVaN I've always wondered about the size naming conventions given to turrets in EvE. Lets take for example the 75mm RailGun. Now when a metric size is used to describe a weapon (75mm), generally it refers to the diameter of the barrel of the gun. And going along those lines, the 125mm Rail Gun and 150mm Railgun have bigger barrels and naturally do more damage. But when you think about the ammo that these guns use, this style of naming doesnt work at all (the 75, 125, 150mm Railguns' all use the same "small" hybrid ammo, but how can the same small charge fit in both a 75mm Barrel as well as a 125 and 150mm barrel). The only way this naming convention makes sense is if the size is in regard to barrel length. This; however, doesn't seem to fit with the volume of most weapons, as the enormous 1000.0 m3 Dual 1000mm Railgun would only have a barrel length of... 1 meter.
So what exactly is the weapon size in relation to?
Faster than light travel. Constant thrust = constant speed. Heightened signature radii resulting in bigger chance to hit. Anchoring objects in a vacuum. Circular orbit requiring turrets to track.
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Mamarto
Minmatar Space Raiders
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Posted - 2007.02.03 09:15:00 -
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Maybe they aren't measuring the size of the gun, but the length of the explosive charge behind the actual projectile. The guns getting physically bigger from this is of course to prevent the thing from blowing up with the first shot you fire, longer explosive charge after all, requires more protection for those near the gun.
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.02.03 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 03/02/2007 09:54:13 ôOriginally by: Druadan Anchoring objects in a vacuum.ö That makes sense we even do it in real life as the ISS and various satellites are anchored in orbit around Earth. As long as you have a point of reference, fuel and thrust you can anchor in a vacuum.
Jut assume large cans that can be anchored have mini engines and thrust to keep then in the spot relative to a point of reference. That also explains why a big box costs so much. The time taken to anchor is just you calibrating the internal sensors to reference the surrounding area and keep in the same spot.
ôCircular orbit requiring turrets to track.ö In the Eve storyline after a short while the computers compensate for the speed and do start to hit the objects that are orbiting fast. Shame that doesnÆt happen in game.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.02.03 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Druadan
Faster than light travel. Constant thrust = constant speed. Heightened signature radii resulting in bigger chance to hit. Anchoring objects in a vacuum. Circular orbit requiring turrets to track.
Me 5 - 1 You.
I'd say thats more of a statement against Eve itself rather then against his incapability of understanding it
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