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Effei Gloom
Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.05 10:15:00 -
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after the last patc invention is messed up
ccp look into it and make it useable
- Multiply all datacores by 10, doesnt matter where they are, market order, hangar or wherever
- Agents should sell max 40 datacore daily at 50 R&D points per 1*research field
at moment even 500% overprices T2 guns like 1400mm art II cant be invented without loosing isk
this must be a joke
check: my invention experience
CCP pls look into it
and
- Why do components drop in exploration in large values but not in cosmos sites (unchanged there)
- Why stopped Asssembly Instructions drops, to give no results in invention anymore?
- Why did ccp reduce runs you get from t2 bpc to 14?
if you cant invent even 500% overpriced t2 mods what is invention for?
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FalconHawk
Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.05 16:58:00 -
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don¦t think you will get an answer, there are several posts which have shown the probs and no dev did response to them ... seems to be CCP¦s new tactic, they messed something up (or not who knows they don¦t say if it¦s a bug or not) and they keep quite and hope the problem will be covered with dust soon ....
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Cold Sushi
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Posted - 2007.02.06 04:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cold Sushi on 06/02/2007 04:44:02 Edited by: Cold Sushi on 06/02/2007 04:43:36
I'm hoping to get a winning lottery ticket instead of the datacores.
It is just cheaper to buy from the market the t2 stuff you need than to try to invent them
Atleast far less work on just buying the stuff than flying around getting all the mats you need to put into some owen and then wait and see if your cookies ended up well OR not.
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Ione Hunt
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.02.06 13:42:00 -
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Limit data interfaces > less demand for data cores ad decryptors
Maybe it's just me, but there's already a lot less data interfaces for slae the past 2 days than during the past week. The max number of data interfaces might be capped, which will force prices of invention resources to come down eventually. _______________
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Effei Gloom
Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Effei Gloom on 06/02/2007 18:55:26
There are more interfaces for sale then ever
ccp increased the drop rate of bpc by 10 time
and the compoents drop in exploration sites in masses
so there will be many more chepa interfaces available
and therfore nover enough datacores available that are chepa enough for invention of only (500%) overprices moduls like 1400mm II art.
and still: Assemley Instruction dont drop anymore, how is invention for minmatar race going to work?
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Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Effei Gloom
and still: Assemley Instruction dont drop anymore, how is invention for minmatar race going to work? and yes, i am not part of the T2 bpo cartell, maybe that is the matter CCP wont look into my post.
Must be a best keept secret where they moved to drop.
How about it devs? TomB's blog on invention suggested invention was supposed to be a high priority thing. All these threads floating about and no reply what so ever from a dev on any of the questions raised? * be very ashamed* imho
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Danny Hawk
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.06 22:44:00 -
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as usual ccp promise lots and deliver jack, watch this space for the we will fix it SOOON thread
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Danny Hawk
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.06 22:44:00 -
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as usual ccp promise lots and deliver jack, watch this space for the we will fix it SOOON thread
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SNeAkYbRiT
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.07 01:11:00 -
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Say what Danny...they're going to fix something in the game without breaking it even more? NEVER!
But we can always hope, pray and even throw our money at them some more and see if they do. lol not holding my breath for this at all, just getting a reply would be a miracle and we know where they come from....yep it'll have to be granted from a higher level than CCP!
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Fakespace
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Posted - 2007.02.07 01:17:00 -
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We should try to pool our resources to buy a T2 bpo... Then we could pass it around to whoever want something from the devs atm...
only partly joking. Invention is such a big joke in itself, that no other jokes is realy needed.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Pirates of Destruction Union Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.07 08:11:00 -
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From the other thread:
Invention is a poor patch to the T2 BPO lottery system. T2 BPOs should be sold like other BPOs + RA loyalty points - this invention crap is simply not competative and quite frankly an insult to people who are trying to get into the T2 market. Come on CCP - let the T2 market open, allow for people to use T1 BPCs and reaserch points to get T2 BPOs, this is work enough, and helps all of us out and ends to tyranny of T2 BPO money making machines.
anyone who disagrees is rich and owns a T2 BPO for something nice. . .like a Vegabond or something.
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Jennifer Meek
Gallente Planck Bubble Generation Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.07 09:04:00 -
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T2 Solution ---
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Kabeil Blackdawn
The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.07 21:47:00 -
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One of the biggest factor for invention not being profitable is the price of Datacores. These prices are something player decides, based on what they can invent with it and availability. For most item, the profit that can be made with invention does not go to the inventor but the guys that sold him the datacores he used. When invention started, Datacore Mechanical Engineer had a high demand. As player saw an opportunity to make isk by selling Datacore Mechanical Engineer, I suppose more researcher went in that field. Now there is a fair amount on the market. Right now, I can't find Datacore molecular Engineering in most region, execpt the Forge that sell them for 45-50 mill. I don't buy them even if I know I could make item with invention that would be profitable at that price. Basicly its not true that invention is not profitable, its just that for most item, the profit would go to the guys selling datacores.
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Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.02.07 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kabeil Blackdawn One of the biggest factor for invention not being profitable is the price of Datacores. These prices are something player decides, based on what they can invent with it and availability. For most item, the profit that can be made with invention does not go to the inventor but the guys that sold him the datacores he used. When invention started, Datacore Mechanical Engineer had a high demand. As player saw an opportunity to make isk by selling Datacore Mechanical Engineer, I suppose more researcher went in that field. Now there is a fair amount on the market. Right now, I can't find Datacore molecular Engineering in most region, execpt the Forge that sell them for 45-50 mill. I don't buy them even if I know I could make item with invention that would be profitable at that price. Basicly its not true that invention is not profitable, its just that for most item, the profit would go to the guys selling datacores.
I mostly want to do invention to supply my corpies with t2 mods cheaper than market, but after the nerf on decryptors, this doesnt seem possible, when you account for the failed jobs as well. When it look hopeless to break even, it kind of feels like wasted time.
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Jennifer Meek
Gallente Planck Bubble Generation Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.08 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kabeil Blackdawn One of the biggest factor for invention not being profitable is the price of Datacores. These prices are something player decides, based on what they can invent with it and availability. For most item, the profit that can be made with invention does not go to the inventor but the guys that sold him the datacores he used. When invention started, Datacore Mechanical Engineer had a high demand. As player saw an opportunity to make isk by selling Datacore Mechanical Engineer, I suppose more researcher went in that field. Now there is a fair amount on the market. Right now, I can't find Datacore molecular Engineering in most region, execpt the Forge that sell them for 45-50 mill. I don't buy them even if I know I could make item with invention that would be profitable at that price. Basicly its not true that invention is not profitable, its just that for most item, the profit would go to the guys selling datacores.
Invention is so players who spent years researching can choose to cash out their RP.
It appears now would be a great time to cash out RP. ---
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Effei Gloom
Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.14 13:26:00 -
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Are you comfortable with invention and how it works? if not post here pls with your ideas.
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Mikal Drey
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.14 14:11:00 -
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theres a small anoying "Feature" with datacore purchases . ..
"sorry i dont have anymore for sale please come back tomorrow"
Actually its please come back in 24hrs and NOT the next day
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Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.02.14 15:45:00 -
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I really would like to know what dev misplaced assembly instructions decryptor. Or in what narrow tight dark space they hide it.
Although, I think the devs working on invention hide themselfs in the same place :/
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Psycho Somatic
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Posted - 2007.02.14 17:51:00 -
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I don't see what you people are crying about.
Hell, I can't even find out any informaiton on how Invention is used in the first place.
What the heck is invention?!
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Mikal Drey
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.14 22:41:00 -
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Ruffico ..
Is the assembly instruction the only decryptor that makes the job's successfull ? or does invention always fail without them ? and does the other race "success" decryptors give the same 100% chance ?
My problem is Datacores and the rp sink to get them :(( now i need more R&D agents and the required skills too !
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Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.02.15 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey Ruffico ..
Is the assembly instruction the only decryptor that makes the job's successfull ? or does invention always fail without them ? and does the other race "success" decryptors give the same 100% chance ?
My problem is Datacores and the rp sink to get them :(( now i need more R&D agents and the required skills too !
Afaik its the best decryptor for minmatar invention. and no its not 100% chance. But its greater chance than the rest of the crap :/
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Bucholtz
Caldari Neogen Industries Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.02.23 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kabeil Blackdawn Basicly its not true that invention is not profitable, its just that for most item, the profit would go to the guys selling datacores.
It is supposed to be that way. Datacores are main resource of invention, like minerals are resource of t1 production. Who gets most, miner or manufacturer?
Profit margin for t1 is 10% at best, if you get more thats because you know where to sell stuff and when.
Invention is not much different. You buy datacores (resources), put them in lab slot and what? You want billions. For what? For a few skills trained to 4 or 5 wich everyone can buy and train in 2-3 months?
Forget about huge profits out of invention, its "dataminer" who should benefit the most. Your share is 10% at best. --------- Selling carriers, mods and fighters
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Gaogan
Gallente Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:23:00 -
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The important difference between mineral mining and r&d is that mining actually requires WORK to EARN your pay. With r&d you just start the job then forget about it for a few months.
Be that as it may, the issue STILL is not that the isk is being made by the researchers instead of the inventors, it is that the inventors are LOOSING ISK to practice their trade, therefore they will simply not invent anything, and the t2 cartels will continue their stranglehold on the market.
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Nina Kharn
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:17:00 -
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CCP your invention sucks. Im trying not to feel gutted that i got hold of nearly all the interfaces to find they are all next to useless. Come on I have faith in you CCP just take a good look at it.
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Vigor Ekem
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Posted - 2007.02.27 07:59:00 -
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AND SEED THE FRAKING ENCRYPTION SKILLS
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Kruugore
Minmatar Vigilant Justice
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Posted - 2007.03.21 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kruugore on 21/03/2007 17:10:24
Originally by: Jennifer Meek T2 Solution
That link is amusing.
Considering concept of capitalism is regulated to avoid price gouging and monopoly. And that communism is just an end result of True capitalism as you suggest. Because the big fish just get bigger and buy everything up. In the end you sell to one supplier, buy from one supplier and live off one supplier :P
Which is what T2 Invention is actually supposed to prevent.
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Mai Shiranui
Ninjitsu Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 17:42:00 -
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CCP has probably ddeliberatly bugged invention to reduce the number of people with large amunts of isk. It's just another con from the devs to part you from your hard earned isk
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