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Dori Tos
Galactic Innovations
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Posted - 2016.03.09 20:20:05 -
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Signed.
Not only is it bad to rely solely on third party websites to provide information for your game, the said websites also don't have all the information that was contained within the EVE wiki. Now leaving a lot of info on the game pretty much unavailable.
I'm delicious.
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Astenia Riraille
Skolly fleet Southern Sitizens
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 12:51:46 -
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Signed |
olegez
Russia Caldari RUCA Emperor
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Posted - 2016.03.10 14:38:21 -
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signed |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
148
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Posted - 2016.03.10 16:14:27 -
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Signed |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2016.03.10 16:55:55 -
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Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:
The person referred to is, unfortunately, not official CCP, nor does he provide a link to a reliable CCP post.
Petitions like this are VERY useful, IF CCP is paying any attention to their playerbase.
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2016.03.10 16:57:07 -
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And signed.
Lore is important for world building. |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.11 09:53:13 -
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I agree. Evelopia should live. And it should still provide the barebone game knowledge as it were, and featured in the game itself, as it was pre-opportunity age. But it also needs more tender care. So who will care for it? Isn't that what we have the ISDs for as well? ISD Mercury is I think the part that also shepherds the lore, so at least they will have a significant impact on it.
THere are too many third party knowledgebases tout there, and part of them are a) outdated b) too wordy c) biased d) Parts or all of the above.
I'd like to keep an unbiased, up-to-date and short source for eve, and evelopia has to be that. Because it's official.
The more CCP outsources their game, the worse it gets.
EDIT: As a prime example; how am I going to discuss ship crews now with people if I cannot reference to the original document any more? |
Yuri Ovechkin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.03.11 11:01:11 -
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http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
i'm just posting that link, simply wondering why there seems to be no eve wiki on their site... why doesn't someone start it up, gamepedia is the official site for so many games, why not band wagon and join the club
and of course there's
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page
for now... |
REE POMANIUS
Heaven's Harvesters
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Posted - 2016.03.11 21:19:54 -
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Signed.
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Sildriel en Chalune
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.12 03:42:24 -
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The EVElopedia was the best source of information regarding DED sites. Signed. |
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Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
346
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Posted - 2016.03.12 10:39:06 -
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I think we should salvage things before it is too late. Because I get the feeling that CCP will not even bring back the lore-portion of the wiki.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page
http://web.archive.org/web/20160119152537/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
53511
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Posted - 2016.03.13 20:11:22 -
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I agree 100%.
Even though you're a little bit late with the link, it's definitely good to see I'm not the only one who uses the Wayback Machine.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
785
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Posted - 2016.03.13 21:13:28 -
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Signed. Was my go-to for info on PvE sites of all types plus other info...there does not seem to be any comparable resource so I'm now reduced to guesswork and memory.
Evelopedia was a critical resource and I don't understand why it was shuttered.
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Otto3d
Aerospace Corporation
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Posted - 2016.03.16 03:07:02 -
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Signed.
EVElopedia < add this to your sig to show u WANT it back
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Galaxxis
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.16 04:50:29 -
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EVElopedia was super useful! Even though some stuff there was out of date, there was tons of good information. Please bring it back! |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.03.18 08:39:14 -
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Surprisely this thread is still here. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2016.03.22 22:06:36 -
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It is, but someone said that CCP was putting the information in a new place rather than just deleting it and letting 3rd parties do what they may? |
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
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Posted - 2016.03.23 09:05:54 -
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I knew, given time, this thread would grow to rival EVE-lo-peedia... Instead of building a threadnaught, why not build another informational site? No. WAIT! You want someone ELSE to do it! I GET IT! |
Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
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Posted - 2016.03.23 11:14:07 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:
1. 3rd-party wikias lack on information about New Eden's lore and history.
So add it, thats the point of a wiki
Quote:2. EVElopedia was directly accessable from Help menu and popular among new pilots.
Until they realised it was rarely ever updated and showed stats from patches released a decade ago?
Quote:3. EVElopedia was an official resource. 3rd-party wikias may be closed by their owners anytime, access to 'em may be limited, and it's content may not be trusted.
Well even official ones can be pulled so it being "official" or "3rd party" doesn't change that fact
Well you could start your own that wont disappear randomly overnight, domains are cheap and hosting isn't the most expensive thing in the world
Quote:If someone have enough time and effort, he may be able to make a mirror-site for EVElopedia and community may ask CCP for full EVElopedia dump - if it was not destroyed already.
To be fair you're probably better off just using the SDE and coding something from the ground up, the issue with evelopedia is the pages were static, they had to be manually updated whereas using the SDE all you do is update the database and bam your "wiki" is already up to date with ship stats, item names and more :P
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The Golden Serpent
Order of Jamyl
149
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Posted - 2016.03.24 11:07:07 -
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My husband still plays Eve and on the launcher got a notice saying free 10 days if people who quit before february come back.
I came back to find out they deleted Evelopedia with no notice, a site I used everyday when I was playing as a yearling newbie. Also the roleplaying community completely decimated, from the capital of Providence to Amarr Prime. I am not sure what they think I want to come back to. Evelopedia was a great roleplaying resource, with entertaining player biographies. It was not perfect but they were very unresponsive to volunteers.
I volunteered to help update evelopedia last summer when they put out a call but never got a reply back.
If they want the players to keep websites up to date why not give them evelopedia for starters, instead of deleting it? |
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.24 13:23:30 -
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letting third parties control the flow of information is subject to abuse. an article about certain complexes may contain notes to discourage from running them (either explicitly or implicitly by adding a few more neut towers :D), or more subtly you could get advertisement to stuff like corporations. Or pages about corporations might include messages which allude to the meaning of: "If you don't join a player corp you're bad at eve" and propaganda directed at other corporations. (I'm as subtle as a brick but i know some of you goebbels' out there know how to do this and people don't even know.)
So i am all for a neutral, objective CCP site that gives a base of information about stuff in the game. It may be a sandbox but that doesn't mean it has to turn into a mudpit. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2016.03.24 13:47:49 -
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yeah they need to reopen it, I no longer have access to my disclaimer of ccp saying that its not encouraged to run multiple accounts at once....
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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The Golden Serpent
Order of Jamyl
150
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Posted - 2016.03.27 08:12:22 -
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Wikipedia does just fine and backstage isn't worried about it, they shouldn't either. Here's the new evelopedia migration
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Main_Page |
Voron Gray
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.27 22:48:53 -
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Signed. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.04.06 00:49:30 -
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The Golden Serpent wrote: Well, I checked that site out and quite frankly it's very disappointing. They've deleted a lot of important pages that were in Evelopedia. Don't know what their criteria was for deciding what to save and what to delete but in my opinion that site is now way less informative than the original Evelopedia.
Anyway, in case you missed it I had posted a link to view Evelopedia in this thread and I also created a thread in Missions & Complexes sub-forum called :
EVELOPEDIA via The Wayback Machine
The Wayback Machine enables Evelopedia viewing but no updating. The search option doesn't work so navigation to a specific page is done manually by using the various links inside the wiki.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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black cree
Utopian Research I.E.L.
52
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Posted - 2016.04.06 18:22:10 -
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Signed. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1108
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Posted - 2016.04.06 20:42:14 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:For a long time there was a sticky'd thread here in GD calling for people to join the team. It had virtually no active players as volunteers to help maintain and update the Wiki.
Now it's been removed people are complaining. They could have become an ISD on the relevant team and helped all along. Or they could have let players with an active account log in and update the data without all the ISD fuss. It's fine when it comes to forum moderation. But for updating a game wiki ?
Remove insurance.
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Marie Curiiee
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.06 23:46:48 -
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bring back eveopedia!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2533
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Posted - 2016.05.14 10:26:55 -
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The wiki was full of outdated and sometimes just flat out misinformation that did nothing but screw over players trying to learn
The lore part is a sad bit of collateral though
Citadel worm hole tax
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
54733
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Posted - 2016.05.14 10:34:00 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:The wiki was full of outdated and sometimes just flat out misinformation that did nothing but screw over players trying to learn People keep saying this but never point out exactly what they're talking about.
Now I've checked out other 3rd party Wiki's and in my opinion they're all just as bad. That's why my character Bio has links to multiple Wiki's.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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