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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2016.03.02 10:21:34 -
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Imagine a C&P forum or local chat where people wont smack talk each other. Would you be more or less happy and why ? Smack talk creates conflicts aka Eve content, but to much might be annoying. Where is the fine line between them ?
I'm curious how people think about these things, as you have alliances like Public Enemy who hardly ever smack talk to people and others like me or CODE. who might do it to much sometimes.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow Archetype.
1338
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:27:43 -
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Shut up for once and maybe we'll see |
Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:28:27 -
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I dislike it. I even have a list of names. Some are crossed out, some are awaiting service.
There's nothing more satisfying than reducing a quasi-intellectual gobshite to a stream of desperately linked gifs as they try to claw back some credibility in local.
So yes, I agree, it does create content - for me at least.
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Xorphix
Sinister Intent
169
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:30:53 -
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This brings to mind the saying "Pot calling the kettle black". |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14461
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:32:35 -
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+1 for the use of an irish colloquialism
Better the Devil you know.
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John E Normus
new order logistics CODE.
771
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:34:19 -
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CODE is the fine line.
Thank you
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3254
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:39:00 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Shut up for once and maybe we'll see You do know you're also at the side of players who smack talk a lot, even to the point of breaking the EULA ? For once try to reply with something serious then your basic forum smack replies. Dont pretend that you cant, as I have chats with you before where I actually enjoyed talking to you.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow Archetype.
1338
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:53:03 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Shut up for once and maybe we'll see You do know you're also at the side of players who smack talk a lot, even to the point of breaking the EULA ? For once try to reply with something serious then your basic forum smack replies. Dont pretend that you cant, as I have chats with you before where I actually enjoyed talking to you. I think you should give up being a "merc" and ask CCP to give you a job being an interior decorator for the inside stations since you never leave.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2769
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:55:25 -
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As there are trained professionals who are not only better at it, but also get paid much more than I do... I generally avoid smack talk. Occasionally there's a special snowflake who gets a bit under my skin, and they may earn themselves a quip here and there. But yeah, I'm not paid enough for that job... I just hunt rabbits and poke bears.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. A Few Brave Men
2672
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Posted - 2016.03.02 11:57:49 -
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Smack talk must be amusing and/ or witty imo. It must also not cross that line we all know exists
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3256
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Posted - 2016.03.02 12:10:22 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Smack talk must be amusing and/ or witty imo. It must also not cross that line we all know exists But would that also be possible when you have two alpha males ? And what do you think of Seegers smack talk above ? It's not an answer to the question, but more an example of smack.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
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Xorphix
Sinister Intent
172
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Posted - 2016.03.02 12:36:31 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Smack talk must be amusing and/ or witty imo. It must also not cross that line we all know exists But would that also be possible when you have two alpha males ? And what do you think of Seegers smack talk above ? It's not an answer to the question, but more an example of smack.
What you're aiming for isn't going to happen. I'd recommend quitting while you're ahead... |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2545
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Posted - 2016.03.02 12:50:22 -
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hey marmite whats up, did someone troll you and you aint happy?
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Fybs
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Devil's Warrior Alliance
657
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Posted - 2016.03.02 12:52:50 -
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I enjoy smack talk especially to players that think they know how to pew. but all they really do is play
PvPDockTimer
Don't confuse kindness with weakness.
Beware the hand of Fybs.
Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
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Chandelin
Jovian Vengeance
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Posted - 2016.03.02 13:04:52 -
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It depends on the smacktalk.
If somebody says GF in local when you just lost your ship to like a blob of 12 or more I actually think that's a form of smacktalk.
Forum smacktalk can be fun as there's a group you get to know and most of the time its just troll.
Then there's the morons who smack talk stupidly and there's actually no point.
My favorite are the in game smack talkers who dec you then tell you to pay up some daft fee only to have there arses handed to them on a plate when you blow them up.
Smack talk is fun but there's limitations to learning how far you can push the button.
I myself don't do it |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3256
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Posted - 2016.03.02 13:15:40 -
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Lan Wang wrote:hey marmite whats up, did someone troll you and you aint happy? No, because in most cases I'm the one smack talking. And I enjoy doing it to my "enemies". I just wonder where people draw a line, as that seems to be different for everyone.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
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Dilligafmofo
Sandman Plc
378
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Posted - 2016.03.02 13:44:30 -
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Smack is a great tool, it can be the difference in an impending fight, it is possible to goad your opponents into playing their hand before they were intending, thus confusing their comms. i love smack talking and it has given me some of the funniest moments in eve |
Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation A Few Brave Men
154
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Posted - 2016.03.02 14:23:52 -
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I don't generally engage in smack talk. Noragen and his propaganda department does it enough for both of us. Smack talk is okay and part of EVE as far as I see it and it does make c&p more lively for one. Admittingly some of it gets old. Especially claiming 'tears' for people just having different opinion to yours. What's with this salt addiction anyway? |
Ro Fenrios
Armilies Corporation A Few Brave Men
154
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Posted - 2016.03.02 14:25:14 -
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Dilligafmofo wrote:Smack is a great tool, it can be the difference in an impending fight, it is possible to goad your opponents into playing their hand before they were intending, thus confusing their comms. i love smack talking and it has given me some of the funniest moments in eve
Waiiiiiit second! I know you! Grrrrr! |
gnshadowninja
Back Passage Explorer's Vendetta Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2016.03.02 14:56:32 -
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I love abit of smack and banter, its what seperates the men from the missioners. However some people get a little too personal over games and thats where the line is crossed, some people bring illnesses, family, friends, home addresses, death threats and god knows what else into play and its unacceptable.
I also think harassment and bullying is terrible in the online communities nowadays, i believe this to be down to the combination of social media, lack of socialisation and franky people with anger management problems.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
558
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Posted - 2016.03.02 15:00:45 -
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I'm never one to stir the pot, nor offend peoples sensibilities - much (,one ganker receives "brain tumour's" from my posts.)
But here in Gods Country ( Oz ), we have a great cultural tradition of sledging.
So if any of you bastards have been offended by my posts - you are not culturally sensitive enough.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
4109
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Posted - 2016.03.02 15:03:06 -
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I personally smack talk like crazy.
What I can't stand is the ultra-cliche factually inaccurate, cringe worthy crap you get out of people who aren't members of the civilized highsec PVPer master race. Unactionable threats, "something something low/nulsec", use of the term griefing when it blatantly doesn't apply, "something something space honor", et cetera. All that unoriginal, ignorant, reddit quality crap.
At least when you're dealing with other highsec PvPers you get smack talk that actually reflects what is going on. |
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1078
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Posted - 2016.03.02 15:51:08 -
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I think it depends. While some animosity between two groups can drive conflict, I've actually seen it go too far and become an unpleasant experience between the two groups. They needed a bit of a reset to remind themselves that the other party was giving them content and there was some mutual benefits to providing content to each other.
In terms of disparaging your competitors, the people who are the best don't need to smack talk their competitors. Think of some groups that you don't see here in C&P very often but rather are in game, getting things done. Surely a few are already popping into your head. These groups let their actions and results do all the talking.
ISD Fractal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
3597
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Posted - 2016.03.02 17:51:41 -
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If you're not talking smack, why the hell are you even looking at local?
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
3597
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Posted - 2016.03.02 17:53:05 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I personally smack talk like crazy.
What I can't stand is the ultra-cliche factually inaccurate, cringe worthy crap you get out of people who aren't members of the civilized highsec PVPer master race. Unactionable threats, "something something low/nulsec", use of the term griefing when it blatantly doesn't apply, "something something space honor", et cetera. All that unoriginal, ignorant, reddit quality crap.
At least when you're dealing with other highsec PvPers you get smack talk that actually reflects what is going on.
So basically every tile on the old Safari Bingo card?
https://i.imgur.com/GC4U2zf.png
Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
1955
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Posted - 2016.03.02 19:30:06 -
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You're all griefing, risk-averse tossers.
Oh, wait...
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow Archetype.
1341
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Posted - 2016.03.02 19:41:46 -
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Just bite the pillow already. It's life, the realm of smack talk is every where, daily life. It's the Darwinism that drives it. You can either be sitting crying in your station, or be out the fighting in your cruiser, either way smack happens. Those whom use outside game advances or irl are crossing that golden line which is harassment.
I believe smack is healthy, it determines strengths and weaknesses even before a fight, allowing you to gain the moral aspect of the morale of your opponent, sometimes netting you the upper hand, sometimes not. We all eventually bite the pillow, or eat our words but it's all healthy competition. Darwinism in EVE Online. |
Kaely Tanniss
Addicted To Chaos Archetype.
553
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Posted - 2016.03.02 20:44:50 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Imagine a C&P forum or local chat where people wont smack talk each other. Would you be more or less happy and why ? Smack talk creates conflicts aka Eve content, but to much might be annoying. Where is the fine line between them ?
I'm curious how people think about these things, as you have alliances like Public Enemy who hardly ever smack talk to people and others like me or CODE. who might do it to much sometimes.
Smack talk is all part of the meta. I admit I enjoy a good trolling in local sometimes. Though there IS a line. Eve just wouldn't be the same without a little smack here and there. If you can't handle some smack or trolling..either htfu or exercise your ability to use the block button.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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HoleySheet1
Renegade Armada.
830
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Posted - 2016.03.02 21:36:51 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Shut up for once and maybe we'll see
I tend to agree.
Killing your ships and pods since 2008.
Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Offering some used toilet paper for bumblefck's corpse.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. A Few Brave Men
2677
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Posted - 2016.03.02 23:10:28 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Smack talk must be amusing and/ or witty imo. It must also not cross that line we all know exists But would that also be possible when you have two alpha males ? And what do you think of Seegers smack talk above ? It's not an answer to the question, but more an example of smack. I do my best trolling by not responding at the appropriate times
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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