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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.07 10:42:00 -
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Ok we nabbed a Wartarget Privateer nanophoon in empire (fleets were Mega,nanoPhoon,2x T2-Frigs v Domi,3x Raxs), and the phoon down to 50% hull, then all of a sudden he was hit by concord and killed.
Now problem that arose was the fact that not one of our gang got the kill mail, which I would presume that the concord got the last shot in. Even the phoon pilot said he deleted his destruction mail because it was embarassing to him (could he have shot concord so we didnt get the mail??), so we couldnt even get it off him.
Then we got the mega down to 10% hull, then he just warped off with out any warning.
I asked in local if the mega was killed, but none of them replied, then noticed the mega pilot had logged.
So whats up with concord and killmails? Does it vanish if concord gets the last shot in? ______
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Thales Archon
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.07 10:51:00 -
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Whoever gets the last shot in gets the mail, be it Sanshas Nation, Blood Raiders, or Concord.
You may be able to pettition and get one.
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El'Niaga
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Posted - 2007.02.07 10:51:00 -
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First off I think killmails are a bad idea in the game and they should remove them all.
It is lame logging out to avoid death though :(. However if he logged out while you guys were fighting, then you would have had up to 15 minutes to probe out his ship and finish it off.
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Thales Archon
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.07 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga First off I think killmails are a bad idea in the game and they should remove them all.
Narrow minded much?
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Zaphod Jones
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga First off I think killmails are a bad idea in the game and they should remove them all.
ISS alt ?
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:17:00 -
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id petition for KM and also file a bug report may not get anywhere but worth a shot
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DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:20:00 -
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You really want the killmail that badly?
I think you just need to get over it... If Concorde got the killmail, so be it, you guys were not good enough to get it, etc...
I think it would be very lame for you to petition for a killmail.
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:21:00 -
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Is the web pertition system bugged? because I keep getting,
"Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding."
Tried on a number of browsers too.
Guess I will have to do it in game later... ______
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Thales Archon
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter You really want the killmail that badly?
I think you just need to get over it... If Concorde got the killmail, so be it, you guys were not good enough to get it, etc...
I think it would be very lame for you to petition for a killmail.
Think we found the alt of the dude you killed... Man I'm not usually up this early, is this when the crazies come out?
Btw, If you know all the main stats, you could easily MAKE a killmail. And knowing that you guys popped it, it wouldnt really be lame imo.
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DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Thales Archon
Originally by: DarkMatter You really want the killmail that badly?
I think you just need to get over it... If Concorde got the killmail, so be it, you guys were not good enough to get it, etc...
I think it would be very lame for you to petition for a killmail.
Think we found the alt of the dude you killed... Man I'm not usually up this early, is this when the crazies come out?
Btw, If you know all the main stats, you could easily MAKE a killmail. And knowing that you guys popped it, it wouldnt really be lame imo.
LOL, uhm no... I'm not an alt...
I think it's pretty ignorant to tie up the petition system on a lame request like this!
Concorde got the kill, what the hell do you think a GM is going to do? Why in the world would he give the KM to someone else?
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter You really want the killmail that badly?
I think you just need to get over it... If Concorde got the killmail, so be it, you guys were not good enough to get it, etc...
I think it would be very lame for you to petition for a killmail.
hehe I think the guy was lame to get hit by concord, but it was a good fun fight and would like the killmail to remember it by. The fact we should have killed 2 BS and didnt get a single mail is a slight disappointment.
Yes I will lamely pertition it :P ______
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter LOL, uhm no... I'm not an alt...
I think it's pretty ignorant to tie up the petition system on a lame request like this!
Concorde got the kill, what the hell do you think a GM is going to do? Why in the world would he give the KM to someone else?
Ahhh so you tried already :P ______
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DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: MrLobster
Originally by: DarkMatter You really want the killmail that badly?
I think you just need to get over it... If Concorde got the killmail, so be it, you guys were not good enough to get it, etc...
I think it would be very lame for you to petition for a killmail.
hehe I think the guy was lame to get hit by concord, but it was a good fun fight and would like the killmail to remember it by. The fact we should have killed 2 BS and didnt get a single mail is a slight disappointment.
Yes I will lamely pertition it :P
So you're petitioning for e-peen?
This has happened many other times in the game, I don't see why you think you deserve a KM from a kill you did not get...
Unless you can prove your target specifically targeted and fired on Concorde to deny you the KM...
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter
Originally by: Thales Archon
Originally by: DarkMatter You really want the killmail that badly?
I think you just need to get over it... If Concorde got the killmail, so be it, you guys were not good enough to get it, etc...
I think it would be very lame for you to petition for a killmail.
Think we found the alt of the dude you killed... Man I'm not usually up this early, is this when the crazies come out?
Btw, If you know all the main stats, you could easily MAKE a killmail. And knowing that you guys popped it, it wouldnt really be lame imo.
LOL, uhm no... I'm not an alt...
I think it's pretty ignorant to tie up the petition system on a lame request like this!
Concorde got the kill, what the hell do you think a GM is going to do? Why in the world would he give the KM to someone else?
/seconded.
The petition queue is full and someone is suggesting to petition for a killmal, and file a bug report because the one getting the last shot (CONCORD) has got it but it is a NPC? I find it a bad idea.
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Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:47:00 -
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/emote makes note: In future only fight in Empire, and leave one weapon to shoot concord or some inocent victim with.
I also dont agree with this kill mail system. Not only is it a e-peen brag, but can be modified to easy. Yeah if your so proud you killed me 5-1 then you really need help.
And for the record....I delete them as fast as they come, them or me no diffrence. I have enough nightmares from real life to worry about.
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El Verbatim
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: El Verbatim on 07/02/2007 11:50:21
Originally by: MrLobster
Yes I will lamely pertition it :P
You're free to do what you like but don't come here complaining next time that your reimbursement petition takes ages before it's answered. GM's are then probably too busy sending killmails to other people like you that don't get satisfaction from the kill itself but need the killmail to boost.
I like the killmails too but if the NPC got the killmail, he got the last blow, so live with it. Nothing different with another player that got the killmail but doesn't want to forward it to you. Would you petition that too?
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DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatter on 07/02/2007 11:55:16
Originally by: Roshan longshot /emote makes note: In future only fight in Empire, and leave one weapon to shoot concord or some inocent victim with.
I also dont agree with this kill mail system. Not only is it a e-peen brag, but can be modified to easy. Yeah if your so proud you killed me 5-1 then you really need help.
And for the record....I delete them as fast as they come, them or me no diffrence. I have enough nightmares from real life to worry about.
I honestly think there should be an official killboard, and no players get KM's that can be edited, or deathmails they delete before posting on their corp/alliance KB... It should be totally transparent to the players, just an IGB you go to and view, sort, etc...
I agree that KM's can be used as a reference to how a war is going, but atm, too much importance is placed on them for e-peen reasons...
An official EVE KB that can show in absolute truth how a war is going is the only fair way to do it...
You could include the NPC KM's too if PC's are on the KM...
I'll post my kill/death mails at my corps/alliance requests, but I delete them right after...
Plus it could be a neat thing to dock in a station and view the KB for that system, regions, etc... Something to do when walking in stations comes about...
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Kamikazi ONE
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Posted - 2007.02.07 11:58:00 -
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I think the wardec fee should include an ingame killboard hosted by Concord so no one can fail to post their deaths/kills. That way any ships killed which include a hit by a war target will be included.
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Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2007.02.07 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter
Originally by: Roshan longshot /emote makes note: In future only fight in Empire, and leave one weapon to shoot concord or some inocent victim with.
I also dont agree with this kill mail system. Not only is it a e-peen brag, but can be modified to easy. Yeah if your so proud you killed me 5-1 then you really need help.
And for the record....I delete them as fast as they come, them or me no diffrence. I have enough nightmares from real life to worry about.
I honestly think there should be an official killboard, and no players get KM's that can be edited, or deathmails they delete before posting on their corp/alliance KB... It should be totally transparent to the players, just an IGB you go to and view, sort, etc...
I agree that KM's can be used as a reference to how a war is going, but atm, too much importance is placed on them for e-peen reasons...
An official EVE KB that can show in absolute truth how a war is going is the only fair way to do it...
You could include the NPC KM's too if PC's are on the KM...
I'll post my kill/death mails at my corps/alliance requests, but I delete them right after...
CCP has the ability, but does not want to make an In-game killboard. I see no reason why they should'nt. It would remove so much bull**** from the current system. Corp and Alliance killboards, well there is so much fabrication in them, you cant beleave a thing that is in them.
IE. I died once in a tempest. I dont fly any mini ship bigger then a rifter!
IE. Corp mate not only lost his ship, while not online, but lost three identicle ships with in 5 mins to same shooter.
IE. I never been a "hardcore" pirate...but there is a killmail out there saying I was in M3G4 from the old days...
So thats why I dont take stock in killmails and kill boards any more...
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.07 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kamikazi ONE I think the wardec fee should include an ingame killboard hosted by Concord so no one can fail to post their deaths/kills. That way any ships killed which include a hit by a war target will be included.
And it would be only viewable by the two sides, no one else would be able to see ship the KM boards.
At the very least I would at least want the killmails that was obtained from concord. Apart from the ones where the billboard gets the kill lol. ______
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Karille
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.07 12:45:00 -
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Privateers are fairly unreliable when it comes to posting their losses. Its normally proper etiquette to send your loss mail to anyone on it who requests it. 95% of people have no problem with it, but then there are those few who want to act invincible. _________________________________________________________
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DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.02.07 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Karille Privateers are fairly unreliable when it comes to posting their losses. Its normally proper etiquette to send your loss mail to anyone on it who requests it. 95% of people have no problem with it, but then there are those few who want to act invincible.
You simply cannot rely on players to be fair about this...
That's why I'll ignore KB's for the most part until there is an official one, where players do not handle the data...
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.07 13:49:00 -
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Simply copy / paste his name onto an existing killmail.
Thanks for tieing up the petition queue with a less than worthless petition.
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Mogubu
League of Gentlemen O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.02.07 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: MrLobster ...Even the phoon pilot said he deleted his destruction mail because it was embarassing to him ...
Lol. As if...
PA doesnt seem to keen on posting their losses at all tbh, maybe they are to busy trying to get out of the lag outside jita 4-4. It's easy enough to help them update the losses on their KB tho. ---
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Cipher7
Acme Technologies Incorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.07 14:03:00 -
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Must....get....killmail...
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Wild Rho
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.02.07 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Wild Rho on 07/02/2007 14:42:51
Originally by: Thales Archon
Originally by: El'Niaga First off I think killmails are a bad idea in the game and they should remove them all.
Narrow minded much?
Expressing an opinion is not narrow minded. Bashing someone because they have a different one to yours is.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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