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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:26:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:The development of DUST is causing quite a stir in the console gaming industry, that is always a good thing. It is causing a stir because it is a revolutionary concept finally seen through to completion, tied to an 8 year old established universe of rich content. LOL. It's an MMOFPS. It may be the first on a console, I don't know, but since console FPSes are by definition terribad knockoffs aimed at casuals and children, who cares anyway? Ranger 1 wrote:It is being viewed by many as not just the "next new game", but rather the "next step in console games" period. This in an industry where many fans are fading away currently because they are getting tired of the MW3 or BF3 clones that are literally nothing more than the same tired game with a new $60 paint job. I very much doubt the whole gaming world is going to become MMOs. Console games are continuing to advance just fine, and whether or not DUST replaces the current FPSes as the casual's tripe of choice is really irrelevant to any actual advances which take place, just as FPSes have been and will continue to be irrelevant to actual console games.
Greetings Crumple, good to see you again.
To touch on a few of your points:
Actually, it's quite a bit more than an MMOFPS. It has other elements including RTS... among others.
Dust isn't aimed at casuals and children.
The console industry has been in decline for the last several years.
FPS are far from irrelevant to the console gaming industry.
Always good to see you posting though. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:33:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Actually, it's quite a bit more than an MMOFPS. It has other elements including RTS... among others.
Dust isn't aimed at casuals and children. Fair points, but it still falls basically in the console FPS genre, and so does not represent an interesting advancement IMO.
Ranger 1 wrote:The console industry has been in decline for the last several years. FPS are far from irrelevant to the console gaming industry. I actually couldn't have said it better myself. I just moved the statements together for you :D
Good to see you are still around too, yours is one of the few names I actually remember. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
307
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:35:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Your point is that you don't want to play DUST, because you don't like first person shooters. I love FPSes. I hate FPSes on consoles. There's a difference.
I would play Dust on a PC.
DarkAegix wrote:My point is that you don't need to play DUST. And my point is that consoles are a terrible media for FPSes, to the point where shooting structures is vastly preferable. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
534
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:37:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Actually, it's quite a bit more than an MMOFPS. It has other elements including RTS... among others.
Dust isn't aimed at casuals and children. Fair points, but it still falls basically in the console FPS genre, and so does not represent an interesting advancement IMO. Ranger 1 wrote:The console industry has been in decline for the last several years. FPS are far from irrelevant to the console gaming industry. I actually couldn't have said it better myself. I just moved the statements together for you :D Good to see you are still around too, yours is one of the few names I actually remember.
Fair points. Whatever our individual preferences and predictions, I think it's safe to say that whether this thing burns like the Hindenburg... or starts a console game revolution... either way it should be interesting to watch (and in some small way been a part of). Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
93
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:37:00 -
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Can't see how CCP will make it work - unless they are going to forbid gravity from working...
Personally, I intend to grief the **** out of the dust bunnies...
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
310
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:44:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:
I would play Dust on a PC.
Yeah that's a given Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:45:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Fair points. Whatever our individual preferences and predictions, I think it's safe to say that whether this thing burns like the Hindenburg... or starts a console game revolution... either way it should be interesting to watch (and in some small way been a part of). Yup, I'm getting it regardless, even though I object to console FPSes and microtransations. Just to see what happens with it. |
Federigo Mondial
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:46:00 -
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Mercs on the ground ? Press F1. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
93
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:53:00 -
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They've gotta let us nuke'em from orbit... right?
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
43
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:54:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:They've gotta let us nuke'em from orbit... right? Of course, but remember you are talking about captial ship guns trying to hit a target orders of magnitude smaller than a frigate. Enjoy missing every time. |
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
93
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:57:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:They've gotta let us nuke'em from orbit... right? Of course, but remember you are talking about captial ship guns trying to hit a target orders of magnitude smaller than a frigate. Enjoy missing every time. Ummmm.... "Splash Damage"?
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
310
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:59:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:They've gotta let us nuke'em from orbit... right?
I assume that it will require target painting on the ground, perhaps on a cooldown.
Also, skyfire batteries Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
43
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Posted - 2011.12.17 04:02:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Ummmm.... "Splash Damage"? >implying EVE has splash damage |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
310
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Posted - 2011.12.17 04:03:00 -
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Also anything small than dreadnought guns could simply not make it through the planet's atmosphere. Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
93
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Posted - 2011.12.17 04:11:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Ummmm.... "Splash Damage"? >implying EVE has splash damage Praying for splash damage, tbqh... :)
Edit to add: I don't think CCP will allow us to interact with the dust bunnies much...
shame really, so much potential for fun...
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
310
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Posted - 2011.12.17 04:18:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote: Edit to add: I don't think CCP will allow us to interact with the dust bunnies much...
Stop thinking
Read the devblogs
Realize your failure. Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
307
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Posted - 2011.12.17 04:35:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Yo seriously Zim I like you, but you're not making sense right now. Mostly I'm just annoyed with being left out like this, especially when you know that EVE is already a well-established brand on the PC, and as such would have an instant path to an already established (and probably pretty fiercely loyal) customer base right there.
That, and the fact that I'm just highly sceptical of the staying power of, and interest from, console players in a game like this, especially when losses actually hurt.
I do hope that the game isn't a miserable failure, if only for CCP's sake, but I do wish they'd reconsider and publish it on the PC instead. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
310
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Posted - 2011.12.17 04:42:00 -
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I am too but then I realized that paying whatever a pawn shop PS3 is going to be worth in two years is much better than buying a PC that can run a CCP coded multiplayer FPS. Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
622
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Posted - 2011.12.17 06:00:00 -
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I disagree with ship boarding, the point of ship boarding is that it would take too much resources to actually sink said ship.
Followed by the mordern warfare standard of sinking a ship very damned fast.
Player Outposts in space however is very concievable to have boarders trying to take over the station
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bilingi
Ghosts of the Storm
13
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Posted - 2011.12.17 06:27:00 -
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if we can nuke them for orbit im all for it...... And if they can shoot back its not like Im an Immortal Demi god with 10 production lines makeing a couple Battleships for fun at a time right oops well 4 are makeing freighters sorry.... |
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Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2011.12.17 10:33:00 -
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You want Dust 514 to be console only. In the UK you can pick up a new 160GB PS3 for 150 quid. Eve players will multi box it and play for free by feeding resources to their dust characters (not to mention the huge edge eve players will have in terms of fitting and knowing how resists and stuff work).
Even minimally, if they get 2000 regular players to begin with, at peak time, it will be a positive game experience for everyone.
Dust players don't mine They don't sit in high sec doing nothing. They don't sit idle in station for hours at a time. They don't sit in in your space cloaked up while watching the thunder cats.
Dust players come online to shoot other dust players in the face, non-stop, all the time. They be in your base stealin/defendin your stuffs.
And like eve the subscriber base will grow.
Thats how I see it going. |
Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1144
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Posted - 2011.12.17 11:05:00 -
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Winters Chill wrote: They don't sit in in your space cloaked up while watching the thunder cats.
How... How did you know!? |
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor
38
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Posted - 2011.12.17 11:29:00 -
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Tiffiah wrote:Logan LaMort wrote:I'm actually looking forward to DUST since I have a mostly useless PS3 gathering... dust (lol). This would be pretty cool but what would be even cooler as an EVE player is if we could blow up structures the mercs are fighting in... EVE Corp 'Our contract is ended' DUST Corp 'But we've almost taken over the station!' EVE Corp 'Not quite...' *BOOM* How will we talk to the PS3 people?
We will shoot with our dreadnaught cannons at them -> they'll just need to know how morse code works... And hope they don't die before we send the entire message. "Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363976#post363976 |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
248
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Posted - 2011.12.17 15:13:00 -
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If you look in overview filter settings there is a subsection for Planetary Interaction and in there it has references to Mercenaries. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Vallek Arkonnis
Cosmic Cimmerians The G0dfathers
12
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Posted - 2011.12.17 16:46:00 -
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IMO, I think Dust should have an influence on SOV. It only makes sense; space superiority is great, but you can't take and hold without boots on the ground. Not end-all-be-all, but it should offer an edge. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
111
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Posted - 2011.12.17 18:12:00 -
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Tiffiah wrote:How will we talk to the PS3 people? F1, F2, F3... Anastasia -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á Dominique-á-á Mashie -á-á Monica |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
38
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:23:00 -
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hey ,a CCP reply on this only 6 pages thread |
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