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Droidster Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 226	Posted - 2016.03.06 01:39:54 - [1] - Quote Blocking a player should apply to their entire account. Stop spam. WOW implemented this idea successfully 10 years ago.
Joe Risalo State War Academy Caldari State 1245	Posted - 2016.03.06 01:44:00 - [2] - Quote While using WoW as a reference is typically a NoNo, I will agree. +1
Danika Princip GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4269	Posted - 2016.03.06 01:44:08 - [3] - Quote Badposting as much as you do should apply a forum ban to all your accounts.
Droidster Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 226	Posted - 2016.03.06 01:56:29 - [4] - Quote Joe Risalo wrote: While using WoW as a reference is typically a NoNo, ... Why is that a no no? Are you suggesting we should not borrow feature ideas from other games?
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14538	Posted - 2016.03.06 02:19:58 - [5] - Quote ccp said it would be to easy to use as a method of outing alts Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Droidster Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 227	Posted - 2016.03.06 02:29:59 - [6] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: ccp said it would be to easy to use as a method of outing alts As long as the block only applies to local, it should not be easy to use it to ferret alts. Most players communicate on corp channels or fleet. Do you really spend a lot of time listening to corp mates on local? "Oh, I can't hear my FC on local. I must have one of his alts blocked. Let me figure out which one of the 300 people I have blocked is my FC." I don't really see that as a likely problem scenario. Also, I assume serious EVE corps require their members to reveal their alts and verify that by a logon proof, so I would expect most people who run corp spies and stuff like that use a second account for that reason. So, the need for "protecting" spies on the same account I would think would be pretty minor.
Lugh Crow-Slave 1662	Posted - 2016.03.06 02:31:57 - [7] - Quote This just means of I suspect you of being an alt I can easily test it Citadel worm hole tax
Joe Risalo State War Academy Caldari State 1245	Posted - 2016.03.06 02:35:50 - [8] - Quote Lugh Crow-Slave wrote: This just means of I suspect you of being an alt I can easily test it This is a difficult stretch. 1) If the system does not provide you with a list of blocked toons, this becomes difficult to determine. 2) This becomes even further difficult to determine if that person is not chatting in local or any other means.
Danika Princip GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4270	Posted - 2016.03.06 02:38:25 - [9] - Quote Joe Risalo wrote: Lugh Crow-Slave wrote: This just means of I suspect you of being an alt I can easily test it This is a difficult stretch. 1) If the system does not provide you with a list of blocked toons, this becomes difficult to determine. 2) This becomes even further difficult to determine if that person is not chatting in local or any other means. If I think you are an alt of Lugh, I block lugh and see if I can still communicate with you.
Droidster Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 227	Posted - 2016.03.06 02:48:45 - [10] - Quote Danika Princip wrote: Joe Risalo wrote: Lugh Crow-Slave wrote: This just means of I suspect you of being an alt I can easily test it This is a difficult stretch. 1) If the system does not provide you with a list of blocked toons, this becomes difficult to determine. 2) This becomes even further difficult to determine if that person is not chatting in local or any other means. If I think you are an alt of Lugh, I block lugh and see if I can still communicate with you. The idea is that it only applies to local, so you would have to get the suspect to say something on local when you were in the same system and you would have to get them to talk twice, once before you did the block and once immediately after.

Danika Princip GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4270	Posted - 2016.03.06 02:54:21 - [11] - Quote So...what is this intended to actually stop, jita scams or something? Who looks at jita local?
Droidster Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 227	Posted - 2016.03.06 03:12:43 - [12] - Quote Traders used to use Jita local before the spam raged out of control.
Iain Cariaba 2760	Posted - 2016.03.06 05:02:22 - [13] - Quote Droidster wrote: Traders used to use Jita local before the spam raged out of control. When? In 2005, when I started playing EvE, Jita local was just like it is now. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Wimzy Chent-Shi Unkindness Incorporated Who Dares Wins. 41	Posted - 2016.03.06 08:48:57 - [14] - Quote Does blocking an entire account help you in any way though? I mean even CCP encourages people to have at least 2 accounts through special packages... Starting a trial account takes up to 2 minutes, if I wanna spam local, I can do so in so many ways and forms blocking one toon off does not help, blocking an account won't help that much either. Does not help me to block out 100 people spamming scams over each other, since they can not be logged on from the same account at the same time... duh. What you are suggesting is either alt-outing, if you get the list, or undeterministic - if I block him, I have no idea who else I am blocking. If you are suggesting blocking someone from local only, claiming you don't use local, why do you even care whether someone spamming local is blocked or not? What's the point? If your fleetmate, potential spy has intentionally made you block his alt in Jita, can he now give away intel on local without you knowing? It's a ridiculous stretch, but targeted mail with 3rd party page promotion could do the trick. I mean yes, account-wide API check ability pretty much destroys the potential of someone having multiple alts scattered over opposing fronts, unless having multiple accounts. But it's not like everyone has access to it. So there you go, feature in conflict with the game as it is, adapt. Others call me weak for not condescendingly speaking to plebs, but they are those speaking to plebs at all fortunately only those in "imperium" are plebs.
admiral root Red Galaxy 3662	Posted - 2016.03.06 11:53:08 - [15] - Quote OP is why we need a dis-like button. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
Robert Caldera Caldera Trading and Investment 1114	Posted - 2016.03.06 12:58:50 - [16] - Quote just the one account? What about the other accounts of blocked player? And yeah, easily exploitable, even if I would strongly appreciate such a feature sometimes its a very bad idea.
Threm Heavy Rains Public-Enemy 6	Posted - 2016.03.06 13:29:56 - [17] - Quote It also hurts the roleplay idea, that you can be a scammer, a pirat and a honourable mentor as you wish by your Characters. By the way: That WoW implemented it 10years ago and Eve not - it should indicate some kind of intention behind it and not incompentence of CCP.
Wimzy Chent-Shi Unkindness Incorporated Who Dares Wins. 41	Posted - 2016.03.06 13:36:03 - [18] - Quote Threm wrote: It also hurts the roleplay idea, that you can be a scammer, a pirat and a honourable mentor as you wish by your Characters. By the way: That WoW implemented it 10years ago and Eve not - it should indicate some kind of intention behind it and not incompentence of CCP. Indeed, people who want to do WoW stuff like "ignoring" an entire account after losing an argument and such should go to WoW to do it. Also features leveling, achievements, 25 man raids, up to 25 daily quests, raid finder... and much more purple loot than in EVE. I do not understand what are we still doing here... unless the grind is not what we want. Others call me weak for not condescendingly speaking to plebs, but they are those speaking to plebs at all fortunately only those in "imperium" are plebs.
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 1993	Posted - 2016.03.06 13:55:43 - [19] - Quote Please stop. Thanks. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 766	Posted - 2016.03.06 14:41:04 - [20] - Quote I have a better feature idea Droidster and the best part is that CCP does not have to waste dev time on a useless feature. Wait for it. IGNORE LOCAL. There problem solved and no dev time needed.

Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 823	Posted - 2016.03.06 16:54:10 - [21] - Quote If this was implemented, do you realize how fast you would be blocked Droidster? My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Hopelesshobo Tactical Nuclear Penguin's 582	Posted - 2016.03.06 17:05:30 - [22] - Quote I will have to -1 this. Where do you define alts? All the accounts on the same email? Just those on that account? If someone is spamming you with convos, just open a petition to CCP and I'm sure they would get dealt either a warning or a short ban to knock their shenanigans off. Personally I have not had that issue, and I have not heard about anyone complaining about this issue other then the OP, so once again, -1. Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
Morrigan LeSante Black Omega Security The OSS 1329	Posted - 2016.03.06 17:57:33 - [23] - Quote Wait people read local? What?
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy 699	Posted - 2016.03.06 20:33:05 - [24] - Quote I have no desire to protect spammers.. but could this idea not be used as a back handed way to identify alt accounts? -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á- [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]
Borat Guereen Chao3 Chao3 Alliance 58	Posted - 2016.03.06 20:54:20 - [25] - Quote Many players have a lot of vested interests in keeping alts anonymous. Anything that could easily give them away without having full APIs will face a lot of flak, even if fundamentally you are right, as it is not a toon you want to block but the player behind the toon. Support my campaigning for the end of risk free use of anonymous alts by putting me on your CSM XI vote ballot, and send a clear message to CCP that may be it is time to look again at the influence anonymous alts have on the game, and how anonymous alts do not fit the risk versus reward model Eve is based on. Candidate for CSM XI Speaker of Chao3
Keno Skir 796	Posted - 2016.03.06 20:57:57 - [26] - Quote I would easily use this to see who someone's alts are. WoW is a terrible source for good game design inspiration. Gùï> 30 Day Buddy Trial + ISK Bonus & Starting Assistance <Gùï Feel free to contact me regarding my posts, or my 30 Day EvE Buddy Trials \o/
Keno Skir 796	Posted - 2016.03.06 21:01:50 - [27] - Quote Borat Guereen wrote: Many players have a lot of vested interests in keeping alts anonymous. Anything that could easily give them away without having full APIs will face a lot of flak, even if fundamentally you are right, as it is not a toon you want to block but the player behind the toon. Support my campaigning for the end of risk free use of anonymous alts by putting me on your CSM XI vote ballot, and send a clear message to CCP that may be it is time to look again at the influence anonymous alts have on the game, and how anonymous alts do not fit the risk versus reward model Eve is based on. Who are you then? Please list all of your alts on all accounts. Bare in mind if i don't see a player with at least 3-4 years experience i will assume you lack the correct knowledge base to act as CSM. If i see a 3-4 year old character i will of course mistrust you for not posting with your main. Good luck with the campaign Gùï> 30 Day Buddy Trial + ISK Bonus & Starting Assistance <Gùï Feel free to contact me regarding my posts, or my 30 Day EvE Buddy Trials \o/
Borat Guereen Chao3 Chao3 Alliance 58	Posted - 2016.03.07 04:39:36 - [28] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Who are you then? Please list all of your alts on all accounts. Bare in mind if i don't see a player with at least 3-4 years experience i will assume you lack the correct knowledge base to act as CSM. If i see a 3-4 year old character i will of course mistrust you for not posting with your main. Who are you? You could be anybody, including one of those puppeteer with dozens of account pulling the strings of New Eden and hard at work to discredit those that challenge your interests. The age of alts does not mean much. Go vote as your bloc told you, or, if you have minions under another alt, make sure to tell them who to vote for to best protect your interests.. May be, one day, they will get tired of it.... Candidate for CSM XI Speaker of Chao3
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2650	Posted - 2016.03.07 14:26:13 - [29] - Quote Danika Princip wrote: Joe Risalo wrote: Lugh Crow-Slave wrote: This just means of I suspect you of being an alt I can easily test it This is a difficult stretch. 1) If the system does not provide you with a list of blocked toons, this becomes difficult to determine. 2) This becomes even further difficult to determine if that person is not chatting in local or any other means. If I think you are an alt of Lugh, I block lugh and see if I can still communicate with you. Have blocks only affect incoming communication. That way, you can't use it to test potential alts. I mean, is there really a problem if I can still trashtalk to someone after I block him? He can block me if he does not appreciate my free bad 2nd language insults...
Danika Princip GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4281	Posted - 2016.03.07 16:40:52 - [30] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Danika Princip wrote: Joe Risalo wrote: Lugh Crow-Slave wrote: This just means of I suspect you of being an alt I can easily test it This is a difficult stretch. 1) If the system does not provide you with a list of blocked toons, this becomes difficult to determine. 2) This becomes even further difficult to determine if that person is not chatting in local or any other means. If I think you are an alt of Lugh, I block lugh and see if I can still communicate with you. Have blocks only affect incoming communication. That way, you can't use it to test potential alts. I mean, is there really a problem if I can still trashtalk to someone after I block him? He can block me if he does not appreciate my free bad 2nd language insults... Then you simply verify with an alt and you learn the exact same thing.



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