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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2016.03.30 22:55:14 -
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With the recent "nerf" to L4 missions in the form of webbing frigates how viable is it to run L4 missions in an SB? I haven't done it in ages and wanted to retry it but I'm sure my missioning bomber will just die a horrible death. Any other ships that can be used to run it?
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Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
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Posted - 2016.03.31 00:18:28 -
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Yes. You need a fast stealth bomber and it is suggested that you use Javelin Torpedos. The frigates will come at you and web / scram at 10-30km. So if you can out speed them (I think 4000 m/s is good) you should be fine. Just have to play it safer. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
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Posted - 2016.04.08 23:06:23 -
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You could just risk a real ship like a proteus or tengu. Sounds like another nerf is needed; solo level 4 bombers should not be a thing.
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pushdogg
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.04.08 23:10:30 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:You could just risk a real ship like a proteus or tengu. Sounds like another nerf is needed; solo level 4 bombers should not be a thing.
Agreed. I'm just as guilty as the next guy, but fw is so easy to farm LP. It has improved my monetary situation dramatically.
It really shouldn't be like that. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
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Posted - 2016.04.10 10:06:22 -
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pushdogg wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:You could just risk a real ship like a proteus or tengu. Sounds like another nerf is needed; solo level 4 bombers should not be a thing.
Agreed. I'm just as guilty as the next guy, but fw is so easy to farm LP. It has improved my monetary situation dramatically. It really shouldn't be like that.
I use a proteus. I haven't lost one yet despite a couple of close calls with recons, regardless it has paid for itself many times over despite being an 800M ISK fit. It is still ridiculously easy to farm LP in a covops T3 or even an MWD cloaking HAC. You SHOULD NOT be able to do it solo in a 30M ISK frigate. CCP rightly tried to kill that but it sounds like they need to beat it some more with the nerf bat until it stops twitching.
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Oreb Wing
Alwar Fleet
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Posted - 2016.04.10 13:13:42 -
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The webbing frig was a bad idea to begin with, as I said so long time ago. They are still farmable and the only thing removed were the cheapskates. Had they dropped the nuke on gate restrictions for advanced hulls, it would be where it should be. In navy ships and in teams. But it was the very people running them in Tengu's that applauded the npc frigate. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
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Posted - 2016.04.11 07:40:24 -
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Oreb Wing wrote:The webbing frig was a bad idea to begin with, as I said so long time ago. They are still farmable and the only thing removed were the cheapskates. Had they dropped the nuke on gate restrictions for advanced hulls, it would be where it should be. In navy ships and in teams. But it was the very people running them in Tengu's that applauded the npc frigate.
I don't see an issue with running them in quarter billion ISK covops T3's. Navy hulls can barely tank them and it's nearly suicidal to fly a non-covops ship all over the war zone at most hours. Covops are still risky in the days of combat recons. I sorely wish I saw more people running missions in Tengus. I have a Lachesis fit with an RF disruptor for precisely such mischief.
They should definitely not still be farmable in a 30M ISK ship.
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Stormin
The Dominus Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.04.14 14:12:48 -
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My friend and I duo them. He flys a slicer to take out the frigs, I fly the stealth bomber. Nice and easy. |
Joel Vaille
14th Legion The Bloc
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Posted - 2016.04.19 18:52:36 -
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when i asked subsparx about it, he said you cant solo them in a sb anymore. and he was talking about his shiny fit one of the pirate mwd's and javs. such a long train for that fit :,( |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2016.04.19 23:43:47 -
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So is it bring out the 100 mn HM blingu now for L4 missions?
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
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Posted - 2016.04.20 23:23:19 -
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Yes please. |
Oreb Wing
Arm of Coryphaeus
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Posted - 2016.04.21 03:13:50 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Oreb Wing wrote:The webbing frig was a bad idea to begin with, as I said so long time ago. They are still farmable and the only thing removed were the cheapskates. Had they dropped the nuke on gate restrictions for advanced hulls, it would be where it should be. In navy ships and in teams. But it was the very people running them in Tengu's that applauded the npc frigate. I don't see an issue with running them in quarter billion ISK covops T3's. Navy hulls can barely tank them and it's nearly suicidal to fly a non-covops ship all over the war zone at most hours. Covops are still risky in the days of combat recons. I sorely wish I saw more people running missions in Tengus. I have a Lachesis fit with an RF disruptor for precisely such mischief. They should definitely not still be farmable in a 30M ISK ship.
I've looked into it before I said anything. Every navy ship can solo lvl 4's of each faction, respectively. I was also able to complete every gal mission with the VNI pre-NPC ECM reduction. mwd cloak warp can get you around to most places.
There really isn't a comparison to navigating Black Rise. It's always been a murder nest for anything that tarries. |
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