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Guess My Height
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.31 05:41:22 -
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I've been flying my Proteus around for years, then left EVE for a long time. Now I'm back. I always loved my Proteus, could kite an entire battleship pocket. blah, blah, blah and loved how I could swap out drones and use em hard.
Well I come back to EVE to see the AI is now too smart for my lazy micromanagement. Well like I said I am at least LVL 4 in all drone specialties, hybrid specialties and missile specialties. Also maxed out with Gallente and Caldari BS, well LVL 4 on them. Looking for suggestions for a solid investment. I've been farting around with a standard Raven to try it out. Way less management than the Proteus, but really not much more DPS and just feels sluggish and well kinda boring. Not looking for a dedicated drone boat , but I wouldn't mind putting those skills to use in the right way.
Now I know there is a range of debates. But for someone in my situation, skill-wise, what would be probably the highest earning mission boat?
Not looking for a marauder, so so sowwy |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2016.03.31 06:03:35 -
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Everything about this screams Rattlesnake. I don't use one, but look through the first couple of pages here and in Missions and Complexes and you'll find a fit or ten. |
The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden Haven.
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Posted - 2016.03.31 07:47:13 -
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Yep, second for the rattlesnake, but with your current skills I would also suggest a barghest as a possibilty, or with a bit more training, a vindicator. Neither of those will out perform the rs for regular lvl 4 missions though. |
erg cz
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
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Posted - 2016.03.31 08:15:17 -
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[Rattlesnake, L4 LMJD] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Garde II x2 Hobgoblin II x5 Warden II x2 Curator II x2
Absolutely free trial extension. Just click the link and get your extra week of Eve for free!
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Bianca Niam
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.03.31 10:07:18 -
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Be prepared for Rattlesnake nerf just in case, CCP put a heads up last year when they nerfed the Gila and Worm. |
Warmonger Simon
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.31 10:17:47 -
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Bianca Niam wrote:Be prepared for Rattlesnake nerf just in case, CCP put a heads up last year when they nerfed the Gila and Worm.
Rattlesnake already got a nerf with changes back in 2014 , CCP please no moar! |
Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
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Posted - 2016.03.31 12:28:44 -
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Rattlesnake, Vindi, Kronos, Dominix or Golem all spring to mind.
E: forget Golem and Kronos, just noticed you only said BS 4
but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
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Posted - 2016.03.31 12:58:22 -
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My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Sorry, I had to
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Guess My Height
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.31 13:14:43 -
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Ive seen these rapid launchers on the market and have been curius about them. How does their dps compare to cruise missiles?
Also, i too was fancyong a rattlesnake but i my tear is that it is a reskinned domi....which i loath |
Warmonger Simon
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.31 13:46:25 -
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Guess My Height wrote:Ive seen these rapid launchers on the market and have been curius about them. How does their dps compare to cruise missiles?
Also, i too was fancyong a rattlesnake but i my tear is that it is a reskinned domi....which i loath
DPS is fine however factoring in reload times - meh. With decent skills drones will almost alpha cruisers ; almost definatelly alpha frigs in 35+ km range while you cruise missile away at BS size targets. |
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Guess My Height
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.31 23:56:10 -
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I also have LVL 4 skills for the tengu. Would a tengo be more profitable? |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2016.04.01 00:01:45 -
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Guess My Height wrote:I also have LVL 4 skills for the tengu. Would a tengo be more profitable?
No. But it would get the job done. |
Aaron Raus
Diving club
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Posted - 2016.04.01 08:56:07 -
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Guess My Height wrote:Ive seen these rapid launchers on the market and have been curius about them. How does their dps compare to cruise missiles?
Cruise missiles will do less damage on smaller targets. On the other hand cruise missiles will let you sit at 150 km range and use range tank.
[Rattlesnake, Rattlesnake Cruise range tank] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Warden II x2 Gecko x1 Curator II x2 Acolyte II x5
Untill you will find out, how to awoid too much incomming dps by properly poped trigers, you can use the shield / range tank fit
[Rattlesnake, Cruise shield tank ] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II <- match to the mission specific damage type Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script <- switch to tracking speed script to shoot quick targets Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Warden II x2 Gecko x1 Curator II x2 <- mission specific damage type drones. Acolyte II x2
Same paper DPS, but your missiles will apply much less damage on quick / small targets.
Use eve-survive.org to get an idea, what drones and hardeners to use in what mission.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11549
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Posted - 2016.04.01 18:36:39 -
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4'7"
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2016.04.02 14:50:09 -
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Any BS (even the Machariel) is going to feel slow and lazy compared to a T3 so get used to that idea.
Other options I did not see listed here are. Navy Raven, significantly better in missions than the standard version. Scorpion Navy Issue is another one that works reasonably well.
Looking over the fits posted there is one thing I would change in many of them. If you have the skills to use T2 launchers take the extra step and use T2 missiles as well. The base explosion velocity and explosion radius numbers mostly work in favor of the T2 so you end up with more damage and more damage application than you get with the faction, and they are about one fourth the cost per missile. Ranges will be shorter with the T2, numbers based on an all skills 5 setting in EvE HQ. Precision - 74k Fury - 111k Faction 148k To put that all into perspective with the same all skills 5 standard targeting range of the Rattle is just under 94k. So the only T2 that would be really affected are the precision and the desire of those small pesky little frigate and destroyer NPC to get into range for their guns, lasers, missiles really means that even the 74k is a non-issue. |
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