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The Economist
Logically Consistent
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Posted - 2016.04.13 20:38:34 -
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Multiple logical failures detected in this thread; alerting frege.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2016.04.13 21:22:24 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:Who is likely to end up holding sov in Deklein since it looks like the Imperium is going to abandon it?
The bee guys will end up holding it.
Napoleon took Moscow, Stalingrad was 98% taken; but unless the job is 100% completed, the bee guys allies switched to new allegiances and the space fully occupied, the owners will just move back in.
I would suspect that the bee guys have so much in the way of assets in Dek, that they'll just retake the space when they want because MBC is just a loose coalition that will return to normal when they achieve what they think is the goal, which is only short term.
The bee guys are playing the long game and realise that losing in the short term makes no difference.
The dynamic in the game will be changed by this a touch, but once the war is over the bee guys will have some payback. CO2 will end up the biggest casualty in the long run. MBC members will just go back to their normal ways and carry on. |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
453
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Posted - 2016.04.13 21:49:16 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Eli Stan wrote:After a quick glance at membership slopes for groups such as PH, TEST, SMA, LAWN and FCON, plus the announcements of various alliances leaving The Imperium despite remaining blue with them, I think it's very clear that a lot more has happened to The Imperium than being "relocated." Some of the Imperium alliances got hit pretty hard, like SMA for example, but the core of the Imperium is goons, and they've really just been relocated to lowsec. People might like to pretend that that's it, wars done, they've won, but that's pretty far from reality. The war is still in early stages. Very early indeed. I haven't noticed many MBC people claiming to have won the war and the work is done. Just enjoying some victory battles. Some of the upcoming steps, from what I can gather from the chatter:
- Grind down all CONDI SOV structures and POSes in Deklein and Pure Blind.
- Potentially grind down all Imperium SOV structures and POSes in areas such as Vale, depending on the actions taken by other Imperium alliances.
- Respond to any attacks launched during the above process. This will be done with great delight, I suspect.
- Move out to other areas and allow new groups to take SOV, or move in and take SOV themselves and get back to gudfites.
- Keep an eye out for any future CONDI moves into SOV, or even just force deployments. The emperor has been shown to bee without clothes and is now KOS for very many groups. My feeling is that any opportunity to dunk CONDI will be gleefully seized upon by overwhelming forces.
- Depending on how certain wealthy and upset parties act, aggression against alliances that are simply blue with The Imperium (or CONDI if the widotting happens) could continue, even if said alliances have retreated to NPC null or low.
- I haven't heard any discussion of capitulation or surrender, but I will be keeping an eye out for such talk.
- Propaganda will continue, especially with the intent of getting players to leave CONDI/The Imperium.
This will most certainly be a long-term process.
You also mention CONDI being the core of The Imperium, which is true and why the war was dubbed World War Bee by the people who are in the lead so far. It's why CO2 were welcomed for their defection. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Pandemic Horde Inc.
215
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Posted - 2016.04.13 21:49:37 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Shiloh Templeton wrote:Who is likely to end up holding sov in Deklein since it looks like the Imperium is going to abandon it?
The bee guys will end up holding it. Napoleon took Moscow, Stalingrad was 98% taken; but unless the job is 100% completed, the bee guys allies switched to new allegiances and the space fully occupied, the owners will just move back in. I would suspect that the bee guys have so much in the way of assets in Dek, that they'll just retake the space when they want because MBC is just a loose coalition that will return to normal when they achieve what they think is the goal, which is only short term. The bee guys are playing the long game and realise that losing in the short term makes no difference. The dynamic in the game will be changed by this a touch, but once the war is over the bee guys will have some payback. CO2 will end up the biggest casualty in the long run. MBC members will just go back to their normal ways and carry on.
I doubt that the bee guys will have much payback. They've already been damaged, and before this is all over, they're going to be damaged more. Their coalition has effectively been broken up and the best they can do is salvage some stray corporations from those who have left or are too weak to carry on in the current situation. All imperium alliances are bleeding members and sov, and in spite of Lucas Kell's hurfblurf, it's not going to be some kind of an easy matter to just stroll back into all that space and retake it as easily as the MBC took it.
The Aegis sov attacker/defender gap in difficulty/fairness as constantly pointed to by The Mittani as one of the main reason the MBC was able to do what it has done is vastly overstated here. The truth is, a lot of the Imperium had grown soft and unused to defending its space against anything but roamers. SMA had few true PvP players and lots of ratters and miners who didn't even have a clue about situational awareness and how to safe up when a neut or even a red entered the system, let alone how to report it to intel channels. The players who were eager to defend were fighting an uphill battle simply because of this. And it is folly for people like The Mittani (and Lucas Kell) to assume that all alliances are as bad at the game as this.
I am not saying that the defender disadvantage isn't real, but that the Imperium's disadvantage was worse, especially for alliances like SMA. And actually I have to give SMA props because towards the end there when they realized that things were serious and that they weren't getting bailed out by Goons, they finally pulled it together and put up some fight. But it was too little too late by then.
Anyway, back to my original point. Goons may get all or part of Dek back, but they're probably going to have to fight hard for it, depending on who moves in there. I wouldn't at all be surprised if one or two of their old enemies are eyeing that space as a permanent home. Not naming any names here, but maybe you guys can guess.
> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?
> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
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Mario Putzo
1647
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Posted - 2016.04.13 22:37:25 -
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CFC will get nothing back, there will be some strong groups who will stay there, probably MC, OSS, OOS, CO2, TEST...probably NC. and PL will hold token space, and plenty of moons. The only folks who will leave will be the guys who have homes, and the guys who live in LS/HS/WH
North is valuable and these alliances invading aren't stupid, there is a lot of ISK up North. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33492
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Posted - 2016.04.14 03:01:41 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Brokk Witgenstein wrote:over 6 regions blue to each other can't be a good thing for the game) As opposed to be MBCs 58 regions? :happysun: I prefer :yayclod: myself
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Rain6639
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3865
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Posted - 2016.04.14 04:31:37 -
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But you know this |
Rain6638
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3885
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Posted - 2016.04.14 04:32:35 -
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This new background is really cool for how it fades into the forum at the top corners
[ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337
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Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
27
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Posted - 2016.04.14 06:32:06 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Eli Stan wrote:After a quick glance at membership slopes for groups such as PH, TEST, SMA, LAWN and FCON, plus the announcements of various alliances leaving The Imperium despite remaining blue with them, I think it's very clear that a lot more has happened to The Imperium than being "relocated." Some of the Imperium alliances got hit pretty hard, like SMA for example, but the core of the Imperium is goons, and they've really just been relocated to lowsec. People might like to pretend that that's it, wars done, they've won, but that's pretty far from reality. The war is still in early stages. And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN? Alle these tactics are clever but is this REALLY the way you think fights in this game should be fought? No fun just cold efficiency?
IMHO some people should take a step back and think about why they play this game. It's fun and the meta game including SOV is second. So what could you do to have fun and maybe create fun for other players?
Goonswarm certainly has the reources to make B-R5RB look like a skrimish so why don't they just make a last stand and may go down gloriously fighting instead of winning dirty? This way they can walk proudly away and start somewhere else. And when their current tactics doesn't work Goon will not go down with a bang but be grinded down slowly and painfully and just fade away.
The real question is: do you want that everyone uses these dirty tactics and would EVE really be fun if everyone fights this way? I don't think so.
In my opinion such victories are not worth it because you loose more then you can ever win back with this tactic. But that's just a Noobs idea of playing the game and having fun. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7478
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Posted - 2016.04.14 06:56:43 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN? For some people it's really not a game though. IWI is a site operating as a business using third party software to gain an advantage. At this point it's pretty much stopped being a game. It's not about players using their in-game abilities to fight each other it's about trying to figure out how to stop someone who's using untouchable third party software from picking and choosing targets to eradicate from the game while simultaneously playing with bad mechanics.
It's like back when I played CS and a hacker would come in and join your team speeding his way around knifing everyone to death. Sure at first it was funny to watch the enemy getting smashed to pieces but pretty rapidly it loses that novelty and you realise it's just a cheater taking an easy route. Luckily back then there were admins to enforce the rules, but here CCP seem like they have no intention of keeping the playing field level. So sure, the Imperium might fall, but to be honest if earning trillions through third party software is how to win EVE then what's the point in playing at all?
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6953
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Posted - 2016.04.14 06:57:03 -
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Hahaha, you'd like that huh.
CCP Grimmi: With all players on a single server and in direct competition with each other even your trade and industry activities are PvP.
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FOl2TY8
Hole Violence Goonswarm Federation
110
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Posted - 2016.04.14 06:59:14 -
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Life is like a game like counter-strike, the bomb has been planted. |
Myrddin Calyx
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.04.14 06:59:17 -
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A glorious last stand of the Goonswarm fleets is exactly what PL/NC./etc. want.
Why the **** would we give them that? |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33492
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Posted - 2016.04.14 07:02:23 -
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technically the time zone is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, not quite AU.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Sloof Singapore
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.04.14 07:08:31 -
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You come to our house, you play by our rules! |
Dreiden Kisada
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2016.04.14 07:12:10 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Eli Stan wrote:After a quick glance at membership slopes for groups such as PH, TEST, SMA, LAWN and FCON, plus the announcements of various alliances leaving The Imperium despite remaining blue with them, I think it's very clear that a lot more has happened to The Imperium than being "relocated." Some of the Imperium alliances got hit pretty hard, like SMA for example, but the core of the Imperium is goons, and they've really just been relocated to lowsec. People might like to pretend that that's it, wars done, they've won, but that's pretty far from reality. The war is still in early stages. And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN? Alle these tactics are clever but is this REALLY the way you think fights in this game should be fought? No fun just cold efficiency? IMHO some people should take a step back and think about why they play this game. It's fun and the meta game including SOV is second. So what could you do to have fun and maybe create fun for other players? Goonswarm certainly has the reources to make B-R5RB look like a skrimish so why don't they just make a last stand and may go down gloriously fighting instead of winning dirty? This way they can walk proudly away and start somewhere else. And when their current tactics doesn't work Goon will not go down with a bang but be grinded down slowly and painfully and just fade away. The real question is: do you want that everyone uses these dirty tactics and would EVE really be fun if everyone fights this way? I don't think so. In my opinion such victories are not worth it because you loose more then you can ever win back with this tactic. But that's just a Noobs idea of playing the game and having fun.
So, basically, the only way to have fun in this game is the way you find fun? Everyone else is wrong?
Or is it more that anything we find fun and entertaining is wrong?
Because I'll tell you what, i'm having a good time kiting people to death with Asher, and reading the forum porn of people who are so whiney about us not undocking single file to fill up our enemies' kill limit as if this was an episode of Futurama.
Why should we go down gloriously when we can just do what we've always done, and come out on top later and laugh at all the moral posts and VFK memes? Answer me this.
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Cyno Cop
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.04.14 07:12:22 -
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Sov is essentially meaningless |
Chewytowel Haklar
Project RESET
138
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Posted - 2016.04.14 07:36:08 -
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Nullsec needs a RESET, and I have a feeling this is the start of a much bigger upcoming fight. If groups have made progress taking out Deklein I bet no one is safe. But then again what do I know, I suck at this game. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6953
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Posted - 2016.04.14 07:46:45 -
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Dreiden Kisada wrote:So, basically, the only way to have fun in this game is the way you find fun? Everyone else is wrong?
Or is it more that anything we find fun and entertaining is wrong? No, it's just we're wrong, that's all.
Dreiden Kisada wrote:Because I'll tell you what, i'm having a good time kiting people to death with Asher, Asher, the 23rd best FC in the Imperium and the hero we need.
Dreiden Kisada wrote:laugh at all the moral posts and VFK memes? Well we are immortal, horny white boy lifestyle that involves wallowing in pleasure, and all.
I think VFK station is now freeported, so if you hurry you can get there in an interceptor and dock.
CCP Grimmi: With all players on a single server and in direct competition with each other even your trade and industry activities are PvP.
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tasman devil
Puritans FREE GATES COALITION
76
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Posted - 2016.04.14 08:00:08 -
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Can someone please give me a link to that conversation logs that reveal mittens threatening CCP and the like?
I don't belive in reincarnation
I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6953
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Posted - 2016.04.14 08:13:26 -
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I'm sure if you google for memes like "bend the knee" you'll find it.
Geronimo McVain wrote:But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. Hey, don't be too rude to your elitePVP saviors, you're not the ones bringing the nondocking ships to remove the "literal cancer killing eve".
CCP Grimmi: With all players on a single server and in direct competition with each other even your trade and industry activities are PvP.
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Soviet Love Hammer
New Eden Ganking and Repossession Organization
0
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Posted - 2016.04.14 08:18:04 -
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I'm a ganker and what is this |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
1105
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Posted - 2016.04.14 08:32:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Geronimo McVain wrote:And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN? For some people it's really not a game though. IWI is a site operating as a business using third party software to gain an advantage. At this point it's pretty much stopped being a game. It's not about players using their in-game abilities to fight each other it's about trying to figure out how to stop someone who's using untouchable third party software from picking and choosing targets to eradicate from the game while simultaneously playing with bad mechanics. It's like back when I played CS and a hacker would come in and join your team speeding his way around knifing everyone to death. Sure at first it was funny to watch the enemy getting smashed to pieces but pretty rapidly it loses that novelty and you realise it's just a cheater taking an easy route. Luckily back then there were admins to enforce the rules, but here CCP seem like they have no intention of keeping the playing field level. So sure, the Imperium might fall, but to be honest if earning trillions through third party software is how to win EVE then what's the point in playing at all?
GSF used to boast one of the largest warchests in EVE, ya'll have spent years sitting in one spot literally farming isk through tech moons (they used to be the bees knees as far as moons go, no pun intended) renting, and just plain ratting. Where are all these supers and titans and dreads your leaders boasted about? A couple rich dudes paying for our SRP shouldn't be able to hold a candle to the MIGHTY IMPERIUM and their vast isk reserves. You do still have isk reserves right? They didn't walk away to pay for any boat trips or something...
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Dolorous Tremmens
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
152
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Posted - 2016.04.14 08:32:18 -
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Game testers are people that jump into walls of video games, or other mind numbing tasks for 8 hours+ per day, 5 days+ per week. Some of them enjoy it.
Who doesn't want other people to enjoy the same things they do? Its not fighting dirty, its just having fun. What do you have against fun? You never know, you might enjoy it.
Get some Eve. Make it yours.
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Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
29
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Posted - 2016.04.14 08:44:37 -
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Dreiden Kisada wrote: So, basically, the only way to have fun in this game is the way you find fun? Everyone else is wrong?
Or is it more that anything we find fun and entertaining is wrong?
Because I'll tell you what, i'm having a good time kiting people to death with Asher, and reading the forum porn of people who are so whiney about us not undocking single file to fill up our enemies' kill limit as if this was an episode of Futurama.
Why should we go down gloriously when we can just do what we've always done, and come out on top later and laugh at all the moral posts and VFK memes? Answer me this.
You have always hidden in some lowsec system trying to grind someone down? It's my personal view on things that it is wrong just to win its more important how to win. For me a game is sport and you don't always play fair but there are some lines not to cross. And at some point you have to admit defeat and at least put up a good show. What would you think of a team that's 5 goals behind and just stops playing and reserts to just kicking ankels?
I said it's just my 2 cent.
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Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
29
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Posted - 2016.04.14 09:02:02 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Geronimo McVain wrote:And that's the problem. This is a GAME and most of us play it for FUN! But some people don't play it for fun any longer but to boost their ego. We are fighting over Bits and Bytes and they start twisting peoples arms RL? They are setting the timers to Aussie timezone? They want to win through grinding? Hey, where is the FUN? For some people it's really not a game though. IWI is a site operating as a business using third party software to gain an advantage. At this point it's pretty much stopped being a game. It's not about players using their in-game abilities to fight each other it's about trying to figure out how to stop someone who's using untouchable third party software from picking and choosing targets to eradicate from the game while simultaneously playing with bad mechanics. Just tell me: how many systems have you lost to IWI? And as far as I know the thing was between IWI and SMA? Are you just telling me that all players that attacked you got refunded by IWI and this is just the reason why goon is loosing? All the players flocked to the North just for the IWI money? So you can use every dirty trick because everyone is so unfair to CFC? CFC and goon always played fair? IWI may take a part but the actual shooting and winning is done by players you can shoot down ingame.
BTW: CFC called IWIs CEO ex employee? So the next time I get killed in Null I make a research about this guy and **** up with his reallife because maybe he simply bought PLEX and a char? That's what you want for Eve to be? An excuse to mess with someones RL just about some Bits and Bytes? When do you sanction messing RL? For a single kill? Corp Sov loss? Alliance SOV loss?
Sorry but there are lines that you shouldn't cross about a game! I'm not saying that every goon is bad but you are, as a whole, responsible for such actions. It's done by your CEOs so you take part of the blame. Do YOU want someone calling your boss because he doesn't like something you did in EVE? Would you think that it's okay? |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7479
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Posted - 2016.04.14 10:50:40 -
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Aiwha wrote:GSF used to boast one of the largest warchests in EVE, ya'll have spent years sitting in one spot literally farming isk through tech moons (they used to be the bees knees as far as moons go, no pun intended) renting, and just plain ratting. Where are all these supers and titans and dreads your leaders boasted about? A couple rich dudes paying for our SRP shouldn't be able to hold a candle to the MIGHTY IMPERIUM and their vast isk reserves. You do still have isk reserves right? They didn't walk away to pay for any boat trips or something... A warchest earned through legitimate in-game mechanics and combined effort, not by a third party application. You can try to spin this however you want but at the end of the day you support someone using a third party application to gain a direct in-game benefit, and you do so because it's beneficial to you.
And sure, no matter what the MIGHTY IMPERIUM warchest is like, it can't be sustained through legitimate mechanics against someone who has no way of being affected by in-game activity. Congratulations IWI will be allowed to cheat and win EVE. They've successfully proven that having out of game methods of earning isk that can't be affected by players in a game allows them to win.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7479
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Posted - 2016.04.14 10:59:27 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:Just tell me: how many systems have you lost to IWI? And as far as I know the thing was between IWI and SMA? Are you just telling me that all players that attacked you got refunded by IWI and this is just the reason why goon is loosing? All the players flocked to the North just for the IWI money? So you can use every dirty trick because everyone is so unfair to CFC? CFC and goon always played fair? IWI may take a part but the actual shooting and winning is done by players you can shoot down ingame. I'm saying that IWI is funding the war, and unlike in-game isk earning mechanics which can be attacked and affected, IWIs method of generating income is a third party application which cannot be affected by players. Inevitably no legitimate players, no matter who they are would be able to outlive their opponent if their opponent has that untouchable advantage. This is why botting and many other third party applications that give an advantage aren't allowed.
Geronimo McVain wrote:BTW: CFC called IWIs CEO ex employee? So the next time I get killed in Null I make a research about this guy and **** up with his reallife because maybe he simply bought PLEX and a char? That's what you want for Eve to be? An excuse to mess with someones RL just about some Bits and Bytes? When do you sanction messing RL? For a single kill? Corp Sov loss? Alliance SOV loss? First off, I've seen no proof of any of that (and the person I saw doxxing IWI was Nosy Gamer). Secondly, Mittani has dealt with personal attacks against him as a player, not as a character for several years, and you seem to have no problem with that, so why is it you're suddenly on your high horse?
Geronimo McVain wrote:Sorry but there are lines that you shouldn't cross about a game! I'm not saying that every goon is bad but you are, as a whole, responsible for such actions. It's done by your CEOs so you take part of the blame. Do YOU want someone calling your boss because he doesn't like something you did in EVE? Would you think that it's okay? No I wouldn't like it, neither would I like my career and life choices to be attacked on a daily basis or my photos plastered all over propaganda and attacked for things my character does. It's pretty ludicrous for you to suggest that the Imperium are the sole perpetrators of this.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Dreiden Kisada
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2016.04.14 14:24:21 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:Dreiden Kisada wrote: So, basically, the only way to have fun in this game is the way you find fun? Everyone else is wrong?
Or is it more that anything we find fun and entertaining is wrong?
Because I'll tell you what, i'm having a good time kiting people to death with Asher, and reading the forum porn of people who are so whiney about us not undocking single file to fill up our enemies' kill limit as if this was an episode of Futurama.
Why should we go down gloriously when we can just do what we've always done, and come out on top later and laugh at all the moral posts and VFK memes? Answer me this.
You have always hidden in some lowsec system trying to grind someone down? It's my personal view on things that it is wrong just to win its more important how to win. For me a game is sport and you don't always play fair but there are some lines not to cross. And at some point you have to admit defeat and at least put up a good show. What would you think of a team that's 5 goals behind and just stops playing and reserts to just kicking ankels? I said it's just my 2 cent.
You don't know your game history. Yes, this is how we deal with being outnumbered in our prime.
We did it when BoB pulled their "there are no goons". Ever hear of VCBees?
We conquered the other half of the galaxy when BoB had their massive superiority.
This is not some kind of new thing. This has been a regular thing for the last decade. |
Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
30
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Posted - 2016.04.14 19:13:13 -
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New backgrounds you Imperium folk are using look pretty good...but is there possibly more to the story? http://eveion.blogspot.com/2016/04/ccp-inadvertently-leak-new-captains.html |
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