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Genji Tanakara
Phoenix Intelligence
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Posted - 2016.04.15 14:51:00 -
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http://www.ibtimes.com/eve-online-battle-control-most-boring-video-game-world-2352253
A awful hack job imho in many parts.
Edit: btw guys... did you know that 11 MILLION Isk was lost in the battle of B-R? I thought it was a bit higher than that. Non fact checked article is fail! |
Dkeh Weis
Digital Innovations
77
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Posted - 2016.04.15 14:55:28 -
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Well that backfired
Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.
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Alecto Furia
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2016.04.15 15:26:53 -
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So there's an article that ***** on EvE and your response is to provide a direct link to it? Whose side are you on here? |
Mister Ripley
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
214
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Posted - 2016.04.15 15:29:55 -
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Alecto Furia wrote:So there's an article that ***** on EvE and your response is to provide a direct link to it? Whose side are you on here? What side? EVE Fanboy defending EVE with his life, side? |
Speedkermit Damo
Hax. Abuse of Power.
493
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Posted - 2016.04.15 15:34:34 -
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Genji Tanakara wrote:http://www.ibtimes.com/eve-online-battle-control-most-boring-video-game-world-2352253
A awful hack job imho in many parts.
Edit: btw guys... did you know that 11 MILLION Isk was lost in the battle of B-R? I thought it was a bit higher than that. It also happened in 2012, not 2014. Non fact checked article is fail!
Edit 2: Quote from the article
"But it is almost impossible to take what Gianturco says at face value. An arch manipulator, he is keen to promote his sideGÇÖs view of the current conflict, and in leaked chat logs shown to IBT after an interview with him, Gianturco boasts that the media (and IBT in particular) are GÇ£eager to print whatever IGÇÖll tell them.GÇ¥.
Yeap...
A bad article, by a journalist who clearly wasn't interested enough to do any research. Neither the game itself nor the players come off very well.
Mittens got burned though so it's not all doom and gloom.
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
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Genji Tanakara
Phoenix Intelligence
5
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Posted - 2016.04.15 16:02:15 -
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Alecto Furia wrote:So there's an article that ***** on EvE and your response is to provide a direct link to it? Whose side are you on here?
Oh I'm on EVE's side.
I just want the players to know of how much this journalist cares about us ;p |
james ayyhan
Capital Maintenance
8
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Posted - 2016.04.15 16:11:00 -
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Mits did try to get this out and make the game sound as dead as possible with his empire crumbling around him he need to win but lost out big time no one can take this guy seriously he has become so deluded by a fantasy that he is the a emperor of the universe and no one has the right to oppose him.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7482
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Posted - 2016.04.15 16:23:29 -
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It just calls EVE boring, which let's face it, it is. Few of us would actually be here if it wasn't for the fact we've been here too long to quit now. The forum is generally more interesting than the game.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Speedkermit Damo
Hax. Abuse of Power.
495
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Posted - 2016.04.15 16:42:07 -
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I'm not entirely convinced of the wisdom of CCP allowing an obnoxious douchbag like Mittens to continue to be the public face of Eve Online to the world at large.
Tme to stop bending the knee methinks.
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
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Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
96
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Posted - 2016.04.15 16:48:00 -
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Talk for you lucas, a lot of people actually really enjoy the game.
The article is quite bad, there was absolutely no research done, and tons of error or misleading point...
Quote:Playing GÇ£Eve OnlineGÇ¥ is notoriously boring. Players (initially at least) must scour the universe for minerals to mine, then mine the minerals, transport the minerals, refine the minerals and sell the minerals.
This article is trying to categorize eve players into a single group... There is so much more more to it than just "go mine some rocks and build a spaceship...
Quote:but for the most part you are on your own.
That's ridiculous...
Also I don't know if anyone was able to read between the lines but this article clearly calls out The Mittani for RMT... not very good publicity for the game. |
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Speedkermit Damo
Hax. Abuse of Power.
495
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Posted - 2016.04.15 16:48:30 -
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Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
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Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
89
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Posted - 2016.04.15 16:50:39 -
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The last time I expressed my unvarnished opinion of a certain organization's judgement I was handed a 90-day suspension - and I didn't even CUSS. That being said; knowing Mitt as I do it never ceases to amaze me why so-called "responsible" people find him fascinating and even authoritative. I know some of this is in his pretentious behavior (which I'm sure is being mistaken as genuine). However, in the main his act is more suited to enamor the middle-school crowd, of which he imagines himself to be a certain Pied Piper. Who's the bigger fool; the fool or the fools who follow him? |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
13902
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Posted - 2016.04.15 17:00:16 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:Quote:Playing GÇ£Eve OnlineGÇ¥ is notoriously boring. Players (initially at least) must scour the universe for minerals to mine, then mine the minerals, transport the minerals, refine the minerals and sell the minerals. This article is trying to categorize eve players into a single group... There is so much more more to it than just "go mine some rocks and build a spaceship...
Most people are just like that author though. To them EVE is boring, because they need structured activities and guidance to enjoy an interactive situation like a game. The gaming industry knows this, which is why most games are 'on rails' , hold the player's hand through out the experience and basically create games that are basically just like movies that you can control the protagonist in.
Games (and other situations) like EVE are only really "fun" for people who like to make their own stories,who find tool use fun in and of itself, and who like to learn intricate systems and then find different ways to do things once that system is learned. All of this is why games like Star Citizen (with their emphasis of direct, manual 'fun') will never be competition for EVE, but Space Engineers could well be....
The "EVE is boring" crowd is best ignored, because it just takes too much developer work to keep shoveling them the kinds of 'content' they find fun. CCP is always better off just making more tools for people who find using tools in and of it self to be what's 'fun'. |
Genji Tanakara
Phoenix Intelligence
7
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Posted - 2016.04.15 18:20:39 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:Quote:Playing GÇ£Eve OnlineGÇ¥ is notoriously boring. Players (initially at least) must scour the universe for minerals to mine, then mine the minerals, transport the minerals, refine the minerals and sell the minerals. This article is trying to categorize eve players into a single group... There is so much more more to it than just "go mine some rocks and build a spaceship... Most people are just like that author though. To them EVE is boring, because they need structured activities and guidance to enjoy an interactive situation like a game. The gaming industry knows this, which is why most games are 'on rails' , hold the player's hand through out the experience and basically create games that are basically just like movies that you can control the protagonist in. Games (and other situations) like EVE are only really "fun" for people who like to make their own stories,who find tool use fun in and of itself, and who like to learn intricate systems and then find different ways to do things once that system is learned. All of this is why games like Star Citizen (with their emphasis of direct, manual 'fun') will never be competition for EVE, but Space Engineers could well be.... The "EVE is boring" crowd is best ignored, because it just takes too much developer work to keep shoveling them the kinds of 'content' they find fun. CCP is always better off just making more tools for people who find using tools in and of it self to be what's 'fun'.
It's kinda like the game series mount and blade.
The first game and it's expansion warband were great games because they don't attempt to really guide you into a path your "destined to be". You go around and try and build your own path. Then the next game "fire and sword" sucked balls because it tried to force a story onto you and gives you objectives. Immediately a ton of the original game's charm was lost because of this (firearms also didn't help).
What I'm ultimately saying is that EVE should stay where it is for the most case and focus on improving the parts that people like and enjoy about it, not force a direction that EVERYBODY NEEDS UNLESS THEY BECOME LOST AND MISGUIDED AND STARTS GETTING SCARED...
PS: Star Citizen is in scope creep hell atm. It will get released some time in 2036..unless they announce new features for it. |
Commander Vassago
DragonForge Industries The Southern Syndicate
1
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Posted - 2016.04.15 18:32:54 -
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I've been playing since 2009 , this dude isnt that powerfull , seriously this is the first time I hear about this wanna be. Who what this ******* think ?
Especialy if he tryed to make someone commit suicide. He his the one that should kill himself. There is no forgiveness for someone beating a man/woman alrdy on the ground. Only the weakling act like this. This dude should have faced consequences for trying to make someone kill himself in real life.
CCP should have banned this ****** for that simple fact. Think about the consequences if the other person had actualy killed himself.
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Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1728
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Posted - 2016.04.15 18:33:28 -
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Genji Tanakara wrote:in leaked chat logs shown to IBT after an interview with him, Gianturco boasts that the media (and IBT in particular) are GÇ£eager to print whatever IGÇÖll tell them.GÇ¥.
This article is what happens when you attempt to make a ***** out of people who buy ink by the barrel.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
1113
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Posted - 2016.04.15 19:39:50 -
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The Mittani knows he's on the way out, and he's gonna try and burn EVE as bad as he can.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2342
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Posted - 2016.04.15 19:54:19 -
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RiP Goons, have fun in H1Z1 or whatever other game you're told to play.
Going out with a whimper, what a bunch of plebs.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
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Jacques d'Orleans
2765
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Posted - 2016.04.15 20:27:45 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:It just calls EVE boring, which let's face it, it is. Few of us would actually be here if it wasn't for the fact we've been here too long to quit now. The forum is generally more interesting than the game.
Miner calm down! I'm pretty sure for the PH guys who evicted SMA to Outer Ring the game wasn't boring at all.
The beginning of the End
Never drink anything that only gets a lukewarm recommendation from an Australian infantryman!
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pushdogg
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2016.04.15 21:00:24 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:It just calls EVE boring, which let's face it, it is. Few of us would actually be here if it wasn't for the fact we've been here too long to quit now. The forum is generally more interesting than the game.
For miners. Ironically I can't find a game as exiting as Eve. |
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Mario Putzo
1655
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Posted - 2016.04.15 21:03:50 -
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Sentamon wrote:RiP Goons, have fun in H1Z1 or whatever other game you're told to play. Going out with a whimper, what a bunch of plebs.
Pubbies. |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
186
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Posted - 2016.04.15 23:40:43 -
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Genji Tanakara wrote:http://www.ibtimes.com/eve-online-battle-control-most-boring-video-game-world-2352253
A awful hack job imho in many parts.
Edit: btw guys... did you know that 11 MILLION Isk was lost in the battle of B-R? I thought it was a bit higher than that. It also happened in 2012, not 2014. Non fact checked article is fail!
Edit 2: Quote from the article
"But it is almost impossible to take what Gianturco says at face value. An arch manipulator, he is keen to promote his sideGÇÖs view of the current conflict, and in leaked chat logs shown to IBT after an interview with him, Gianturco boasts that the media (and IBT in particular) are GÇ£eager to print whatever IGÇÖll tell them.GÇ¥.
Yeap... Qoute from the article "This peaked in 2014 with the battle known as Bloodbath of B-R5RB, said to have been the biggest player-versus-player battle in gaming history with over 7,500 people taking part and with ships worth 11 trillion ISK (the in-game currency) destroyed, which has been equated to over $300,000 in real world value."
Did they changed the article or what?
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
186
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Posted - 2016.04.15 23:47:38 -
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Quote:In 2011, at CCPGÇÖs annual FanFest conference, Gianturco showed up drunk and at a panel discussion encouraged gamers to harass a player he knew to be depressed to commit suicide. Gianturco subsequently apologized unreservedly and gave the player in question his entire in-game fortune, but the incident explains why he is such a divisive character. Is that true? Did that really happen? Can anybody confirm this?
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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Lulu Lunette
ThinkTank Phoenix TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
366
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Posted - 2016.04.16 00:05:24 -
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Badly written and on a publication noone heard of. Besides we already knew Eve was boring.
@lunettelulu7
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Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
23
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Posted - 2016.04.16 01:36:38 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:It just calls EVE boring, which let's face it, it is. Few of us would actually be here if it wasn't for the fact we've been here too long to quit now. The forum is generally more interesting than the game. I find EVE at its most boring to be more fun than many games. If you're bored, try not doing mining missions way out in Outer Ring.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
166
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Posted - 2016.04.16 01:46:47 -
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I'm fairly certain that the twitch and shoot crowd would find EVE very boring.
You cannot compare EVE to any other MMO, it doesn't work like them, it doesn't play like them.
The article was very wrong on many counts. You can do missions, etc, in EVE. While it may not have started with them, it is possible now. The game has evolved significantly.
The 'EVE is dying' meme is alive and well in that article and it's really wrong. It didn't need the current 'war' to keep going. It was just time for one and someone has the ISK to risk and toss into it.
Some changes have likely stopped the major alliances from actually going to war. That could be strongly debated, but in the end CCP has to keep changing the game or that will most certainly kill it.
It was interesting to learn 'The Mittani's' real name and background. His out of game maneuvers and personality now make perfect sense to me.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
1117
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Posted - 2016.04.16 04:28:41 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Quote:In 2011, at CCPGÇÖs annual FanFest conference, Gianturco showed up drunk and at a panel discussion encouraged gamers to harass a player he knew to be depressed to commit suicide. Gianturco subsequently apologized unreservedly and gave the player in question his entire in-game fortune, but the incident explains why he is such a divisive character. Is that true? Did that really happen? Can anybody confirm this?
You don't take The Mittani at his word?
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Sp3ktr3
Unicorn Rampage
18
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Posted - 2016.04.16 04:35:41 -
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Listen to the sound of nobody caring. It's deafening. |
Dani Gallar
University of Caille Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2016.04.16 04:50:19 -
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The irony here is that the poorly written article in itself is extremely boring in addition to being filled with false claims. It's besically a copy paste from one of the many negative reviews on Steam except with far to many words. |
TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2016.04.16 05:28:25 -
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I've heard the name but never paid any attention to the sidewalk mutterings, but seems like a posting pretty well all about this guy would've demanded a post from this guy. I really like this game and probably spend more time and money in it than I should but hey, it's my time and my money. Exciting? Well, it's kind of like RL, sometimes it is and sometimes it ain't. Probably an age thing but I don't pursue drama/adventure as much as I did back in the day and it shows in my game play. I operate in null-sec on a semi-regular basis but it's well scouted before I move the high priced stuff in and I'll fold, run and hide if Local begins to look a little iffy. But that's my game, the PvP enthusiasts have their game and they are welcome to it. I've only had one 1v1 (my guy won), everything else has been 1v5 or more so I try and stay away from the gang-bangers.
Designated Rep for 7 characters, two corps and one doofus multi-boxer.
Pathetic at PvP but handy with a spreadsheet; lost a bunch of ships but not one spreadsheet.
Credo: You don't WIN in this game; you SURVIVE in this game.
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Jacques d'Orleans
2767
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Posted - 2016.04.16 06:32:17 -
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Mitler reacts to IBT article
The beginning of the End
Never drink anything that only gets a lukewarm recommendation from an Australian infantryman!
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beakerax
Pator Tech School
289
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Posted - 2016.04.16 09:13:44 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Quote:In 2011, at CCPGÇÖs annual FanFest conference, Gianturco showed up drunk and at a panel discussion encouraged gamers to harass a player he knew to be depressed to commit suicide. Gianturco subsequently apologized unreservedly and gave the player in question his entire in-game fortune, but the incident explains why he is such a divisive character. Is that true? Did that really happen? Can anybody confirm this? The apology certainly did. I'm fairly sure the isk thing is true but I don't have a link on hand to confirm that-á- it was only the contents of his personal wallet, which didn't really contain an amount worth lying about.
As for what Mittens was really thinking at the timeGǪ I don't have any jabber logs, sorry. |
Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
29
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Posted - 2016.04.16 09:18:20 -
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The author should have thought twice when he wrote that EVE is boring but has fanatic players. That doesn't fit together.
One thing he has right: Eve is hard on noobs. When CCP wants new players they don't need new content but a better UI. They are good at making an ultra complex game but really bad at UI making. Yesterday I was searching for an error in a new PI and it took me quite a while to find out that I forgot to route something. There was no error message but the plant was happily working, it just dumped the results..... . Or you can't distinguish a basic from an advanced factory or......... It's not just the PI but the whole UI ist really bad, just take the fitting window. That everyone is using 3rd party tools should tell CCP that there is something very wrong and new players don't know Tripwire, EVEmon, EFT, Uni-Wiki etc.
1 designer with a lot of game UI experience would get CCP more players then 10 proggers making content (both would be the jackpot ) |
Genji Tanakara
Phoenix Intelligence
11
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Posted - 2016.04.16 09:30:33 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:Stuff about the UI )
Lets not forgot about some other features that are clunky as hell or just really unrefined. Setting up Moon Mining comes to mind.
I think some things that CCP could really improve on would have to be some quality of life things. It would make handling sharp edged boxes a bit easier for players. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Pandemic Horde Inc.
220
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Posted - 2016.04.16 21:24:52 -
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Oh my sides, that is funny.
> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?
> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
191
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Posted - 2016.04.16 22:19:14 -
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Aiwha wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:Quote:In 2011, at CCPGÇÖs annual FanFest conference, Gianturco showed up drunk and at a panel discussion encouraged gamers to harass a player he knew to be depressed to commit suicide. Gianturco subsequently apologized unreservedly and gave the player in question his entire in-game fortune, but the incident explains why he is such a divisive character. Is that true? Did that really happen? Can anybody confirm this? You don't take The Mittani at his word? It did not read to me like a direct quote.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
191
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Posted - 2016.04.16 22:22:17 -
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beakerax wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:Quote:In 2011, at CCPGÇÖs annual FanFest conference, Gianturco showed up drunk and at a panel discussion encouraged gamers to harass a player he knew to be depressed to commit suicide. Gianturco subsequently apologized unreservedly and gave the player in question his entire in-game fortune, but the incident explains why he is such a divisive character. Is that true? Did that really happen? Can anybody confirm this? The apology certainly did. I'm fairly sure the isk thing is true but I don't have a link on hand to confirm that-á- it was only the contents of his personal wallet, which didn't really contain an amount worth lying about. As for what Mittens was really thinking at the timeGǪ I don't have any jabber logs, sorry. Thank you for the link to the apology. I have always wondered if he regretted that. I think i am now less grrr goon then before.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
191
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Posted - 2016.04.16 22:38:59 -
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Despite what most of you think and the missleading title, the article has good lines too. Like...
Quote: ..for the pleasure of playing what is one of the most unique video games ever created.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
7065
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Posted - 2016.04.17 02:17:04 -
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Removed an off topic post.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
17665
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Posted - 2016.04.17 02:55:12 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Quote:In 2011, at CCPGÇÖs annual FanFest conference, Gianturco showed up drunk and at a panel discussion encouraged gamers to harass a player he knew to be depressed to commit suicide. Gianturco subsequently apologized unreservedly and gave the player in question his entire in-game fortune, but the incident explains why he is such a divisive character. Is that true? Did that really happen? Can anybody confirm this?
It did happen.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Shayla Etherodyne
United Nations Industrial Holdings
14
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Posted - 2016.04.17 18:32:31 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:beakerax wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:Quote:In 2011, at CCPGÇÖs annual FanFest conference, Gianturco showed up drunk and at a panel discussion encouraged gamers to harass a player he knew to be depressed to commit suicide. Gianturco subsequently apologized unreservedly and gave the player in question his entire in-game fortune, but the incident explains why he is such a divisive character. Is that true? Did that really happen? Can anybody confirm this? The apology certainly did. I'm fairly sure the isk thing is true but I don't have a link on hand to confirm that-á- it was only the contents of his personal wallet, which didn't really contain an amount worth lying about. As for what Mittens was really thinking at the timeGǪ I don't have any jabber logs, sorry. Thank you for the link to the apology. I have always wondered if he regretted that. I think i am now less grrr goon then before.
As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology. Honest ... it is anybody guess.
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Terquil
Random Thinking Union Random Thinking
0
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Posted - 2016.04.17 18:56:56 -
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Google ist your friend: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw Should have deserved a long time ban for that ****.
'Eve is dead' is a meme which reigns since years. Players who can't use/play in a sandbox are not long time subscribers to Eve. And Thema other way round: a sandbox isn't something for 5Million people. Eve will never reach numbers like wow.
Eve is the most complex and fun game i've ever played. You have to get past the high sec wall and everythings more fun ;) |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
211
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Posted - 2016.04.17 19:53:38 -
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Shayla Etherodyne wrote:As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology. Legal Assistant. He never went to law school.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Jacques d'Orleans
2771
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Posted - 2016.04.17 21:47:09 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Shayla Etherodyne wrote:As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology. Legal Assistant. He never went to law school.
He is a lawyer, he went to George Washington University Law school and later worked for Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, Washington DC. He also is still a member of the District of Columbia Bar.
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Mark O'Helm
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Posted - 2016.04.17 23:22:11 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Shayla Etherodyne wrote:As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology. Legal Assistant. He never went to law school. or
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Shayla Etherodyne wrote:As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology. Legal Assistant. He never went to law school. He is a lawyer, he went to George Washington University Law school and later worked for Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, Washington DC. He also is still a member of the District of Columbia Bar. That is interresting. Who is right and can proof it?
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Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
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Shayla Etherodyne
United Nations Industrial Holdings
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Posted - 2016.04.17 23:34:38 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote: That is interresting. Who is right and can proof it?
district of Columbia bar. Gianturco on linkedin
He seem a legitimate lawyer. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2016.04.18 02:47:30 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:
The article is quite bad, there was absolutely no research done
Well, it pegged The Mittani as the entitled whiny ***** that he is, so they must have done some research.
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Chewytowel Haklar
Project RESET
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Posted - 2016.04.18 02:55:08 -
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I can't disagree with them that is the most boring game in the world, until you finally undock. |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
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Posted - 2016.04.18 07:08:13 -
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I could not find him through the first link. Please do it and make a screenshot.
The second looks like a personal site and so it does not count.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.04.18 12:30:55 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:It just calls EVE boring, which let's face it, it is. Few of us would actually be here if it wasn't for the fact we've been here too long to quit now. The forum is generally more interesting than the game.
It's only boring if you play for the team that tells everyone to stay docked and deny fights. |
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.04.18 16:23:04 -
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That poor video sequence keeps getting re-used for everything... Knowing some German makes it a little tough but the MST3K subtitles are pretty funny but I'm sure plenty will question their accuracy.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.04.18 16:32:03 -
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EVE is not boring even if you don't do Ship to Ship PvP.
It's different strokes for different folks...
Some folks find playing the market, mining ore, and building things interesting. Just look at Minecraft's success... it's basically Lego's online at its core.
I know that to Combat seekers, all the other stuff seems like snoozeville, but that's what's awesome about EVE, it has a massively broad appeal.
Why doesn't it do better? There are a lot of reasons that have been discussed forever. Until CCP has a clear path that everyone can swallow to increase it's usability, the separation of player abilities, and appropriate protections for all manner of activities in the game... well, it will stay what it is. CCP is focused on content to keep the current player base happy. It will take some serious commitment from CCP -AND- the player base to want to grow the game. CCP does not have the resources to do it alone.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Jacques d'Orleans
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Posted - 2016.04.19 07:43:53 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote: I could not find him through the first link. Please do it and make a screenshot.
Click here
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
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Posted - 2016.04.19 08:05:03 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote: I could not find him through the first link. Please do it and make a screenshot.
Click here Thanks, but not very much Information available there.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen.
Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher.
Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
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Posted - 2016.04.19 09:31:09 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote: That is interresting. Who is right and can proof it?
He appears to be right, which makes it all the more amusing that Mittani would publish a piece like the IWI online casino stuff :) So I guess he's a failed lawyer after all. Twisting law and facts to suit his own little dream world, but I guess that's what all lawyers do?
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Jacques d'Orleans
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Posted - 2016.04.19 14:44:37 -
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Linus Gorp wrote: He appears to be right, which makes it all the more amusing that Mittani would publish a piece like the IWI online casino stuff :) So I guess he's a failed lawyer after all. Twisting law and facts to suit his own little dream world, but I guess that's what all lawyers do?
The words "ethics"and "journalism" are, by many people, in general received with either utter disbelief or howls of laughter. They are corrupt and unethical, the whole lot, and i'm not only talking about The MIttanis multi-rupia media empire!
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.04.19 16:51:43 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:The words "ethics"and "journalism" are, by many people, in general received with either utter disbelief or howls of laughter. They are corrupt and unethical, the whole lot, and i'm not only talking about The MIttanis multi-rupia media empire!
Not entirely true, you can find journalists that belong to the ethical school. They are very hard to find these days so I'll agree with the reception comment. I was reading an article written by one of them over a year ago. In it, the author pointed out their own biases, stated only facts, and when writing what connections might exist between the facts clearly stated it was only possible and that many other possibilities existed. The author ended with a summary paragraph that was concise and referenced previous information cleanly. THAT should be Pulitzer award winning stuff, not the pseudo-editorial stuff most journalists practice now.
As for the whole dustup, I think this is now a cautionary tale about media interaction, player perception, where propaganda fails, and how important it is to actually keep a positive image as a leader.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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