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Voyageur
Caldari Nomina Sacra Sapientia CORE.
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:18:00 -
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Well, CCP actually returned the Erebus to D2. Official dec of d2 comes a bit later on. Check your info. -------------------------------------------- Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty. |
Sigmorhair
Gallente Eisenmetal
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Areena Shay
Originally by: ArmyOfMe Might be a legit kill but damn its a lame kill however your looking at it
Sorry did I miss your statements about how lame it is to kill a titan at a station when the defending force is incapable of logging on? Surely as the chief determiner of lameness, you would surely have made such a determination by now? No? Come on big boy, show me you actually have a backbone!
What are you claiming Goons somehow were the only ones who could log in? That is a pretty stupid thing to say.
As to this D2 Titan kill. Go go band of Cheaters, I have come to expect this of you. Nice exploitation of obviously broken game mechanics. In most games using what is obviously broken game mechanics - in most games that would warrant a Ban. To bad this is CCP and their pet alliance.
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Mortuus
Minmatar Just-fun Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:19:00 -
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Brilliantly done.
Everyone uses spy's, everyone uses alts, and everyone but who you are claiming to be the bad guys logs off at the first sign of losing.
Well done to BoB. You know, this reminds me an awful lot of the spin against PA a long time ago. I guess everyone gets what they deserve in the end. Not one group in this fight has clean hands. IRON betrayed friends prior to this, on multiple occasions, D2's hands have never been clean. AAA contains many a complex exploiter, as does RA. And the southern coalition uses spies to find out whats going on.
Get over it, war is not clean, nor is it civil. You fight to win by whatever means necessary, and all of these groups will do it, legal or not. Just don't get caught.
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Areena Shay
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Helina Malinos
THE DAY I NEED PEOPLE IN A GAME TO RESPECT ME IS THE TIME I GET THE BLADES OUT.
NOW GO MINE FOR ANOTHER.
AND I HAVE PLENTY OF RESPECT AS I CAN OPEN MY EYES, SHAME YOU CAN'T
OGH, CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF WHEN YOU QUIT?
I won't be quiting thankyou slave.
We are all slaves to CCP. From where I sit, you are just another slave slinging dirt at everyone else proclaiming your hands are clean. Honey, you have an awful lot to learn.
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Exelsior
Colossus Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: ArmyOfMe Might be a legit kill but damn its a lame kill however your looking at it
I find it funny how your whole alliance, all of your allies. Your whole 'coalition' was collectively chanting how the kill wasn't legit. Information you apparently got out of where the sun don't shine.
Now it's switched from 'not legit' to 'lame'. What next? Need i remind you that almost no one in Eve plays fairly, and that pretty much every major alliance has done, is doing, and will do lame things, as well as use lame tactics. So please, for the love of god hold yourself to the high standards you impose upon others.
BoB aren't gods, and will use whatever legit method they can of winning. They have all the right to do it, especially at a time like this when there's a massive bandwagon against them.
Until you can, hand on heart, swear that no one in your alliance or coalition uses lame tactics or tactics which border on exploits, you have no right to critisize others for principles you fail to uphold yourself.
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Seryius That's a pitty.. a Titan must be destroyed in combat, not with lame tactics.
However, this fact shows one more time to eve community who is an honorable fairplayer and who not.
C'mon Dusk and Down!! Crush them!!!!
While i agree that ships like this should go bum in space as in huge battles......The tactic deployed was brilliant..
EVE is not fair..if you dont learn that lesson you die.
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Seryius That's a pitty.. a Titan must be destroyed in combat, not with lame tactics.
However, this fact shows one more time to eve community who is an honorable fairplayer and who not.
C'mon Dusk and Down!! Crush them!!!!
While i agree that ships like this should go bum in space as in huge battles......The tactic deployed was brilliant..
EVE is not fair..if you dont learn that lesson you die.
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RIAH HOPE
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
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HI, few words from me too i read it all... some people accusing bob using imoral tactics.. for me theres no moral ina game.. i know from now noone will just log his titan mothership.. without waiting 30 minutes in deep ss.. we learn from that or we be just victims to bob not challengers. ( no iam not bob or sympatisant) they killed ur ship u wasnt carefull enough simply as that. i mean there are spies overall (beeing paranoid now!!!) what we should ask ourself is will we just accept the fact they fight this way or will we adapt and beat them with their own weapons? if devs and or gms helping bob in any kind of way i say lets all organize and go to bob land. and wipem out with or without dev help.... if we get cheated this way we better all put our strenght together and go to bob and fightem wth we can kick their asses once and for all if they use exploits they atleast expect us to do same or what... dont tell me moral in a game.. dont tell me a bs killed ur shuttle and it was unfair lets simply do somethign against it! cause i hate this kind of post's in a game.. they used an spy they use brains it looks for me ofc they do.. my question is why didnt the titan pilot whose titan got destroyed simply waited somewhere at a ss wth.. he flys a titan hes long enough in the game to know bob...
i could write much more but since i like simple things i just say: expect the worst and hope for best!
i dont want to say bob are bad players or use any kind of cheap tactic a tactic that works is a good tactic..
u got to adapt or u cant and u will not play eve anymore as ur simply overwhelmed by them...
guess thats the point where the devs will interfer casue noone likes a super power to become tompowerfull and can do whatever they like t whoever thy dont like..
dont tell me devs helped bob to kill a titan or such.. if they did they wont anymore cause they see people get mad at it and if it becomes to much of a discussion more people will quit playing eve as its sensless fighting against dev's or gm's
WTH if B0B want it this way we should all givem what they asking for. i say pay back and stop flaming!
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Forsaken Priest
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
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Among all these post there is one clear oversight on everyones part.
The problem is not BOB using lame tactics, that is their choice if they want to lose the respect of the eve community. I may also point out that this is most likely the choice of the leaders / FCs and not the individual members. Stereotyping is just as lame.
The probem is not the use of spies or "bordeline" "exploits" of game mechanics, that in the end anyone has the choice to use.
It quite simply the fact that we get no indication in 0.0 of an active agression timer. There is one available, and yet, for some reason ccp have decided that you dont get to see it. If we were given a visual referance of the timer, then we would be given the opportunity to weigh up whether the RL demands outweigh the potential loss of a ship due to an active agression timer.
Either way as it stands its a guessing game, and its quite clearly been shown that it can be taken advantage of.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
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Its acrying shame, that. I'd desperately hoped the second titan to pop would be an actual battle death. But it does really look like the only way to kill a titan is with meta-gaming: ASCN lost their titan to a pilot***** up, and now D2 have lost theirs to an infamous dirty tactic, to which there is no defense.
Maybe number three might die an impressive death
Anyhow, props to the killers, and condolences to D2. --------
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum most problems can be solved with chloroform.
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Shuriken Ertai
Princeps Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
[461]
Originally by: Voyageur Well, CCP actually returned the Erebus to D2. Official dec of d2 comes a bit later on. Check your info.
Proof please?
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ArmyOfMe
Exotic Dancers Club Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Exelsior
Originally by: ArmyOfMe Might be a legit kill but damn its a lame kill however your looking at it
I find it funny how your whole alliance, all of your allies. Your whole 'coalition' was collectively chanting how the kill wasn't legit. Information you apparently got out of where the sun don't shine.
Now it's switched from 'not legit' to 'lame'. What next? Need i remind you that almost no one in Eve plays fairly, and that pretty much every major alliance has done, is doing, and will do lame things, as well as use lame tactics. So please, for the love of god hold yourself to the high standards you impose upon others.
BoB aren't gods, and will use whatever legit method they can of winning. They have all the right to do it, especially at a time like this when there's a massive bandwagon against them.
Until you can, hand on heart, swear that no one in your alliance or coalition uses lame tactics or tactics which border on exploits, you have no right to critisize others for principles you fail to uphold yourself.
please show me were i have posted before that the kill wasnt legit? I didnt post at all about the kills before d2 made this thread so i knew my facts were straight
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RIAH HOPE
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
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HI, few words from me too i read it all... some people accusing bob using imoral tactics.. for me theres no moral ina game.. i know from now noone will just log his titan mothership.. without waiting 30 minutes in deep ss.. we learn from that or we be just victims to bob not challengers. ( no iam not bob or sympatisant) they killed ur ship u wasnt carefull enough simply as that. i mean there are spies overall (beeing paranoid now!!!) what we should ask ourself is will we just accept the fact they fight this way or will we adapt and beat them with their own weapons? if devs and or gms helping bob in any kind of way i say lets all organize and go to bob land. and wipem out with or without dev help.... if we get cheated this way we better all put our strenght together and go to bob and fightem wth we can kick their asses once and for all if they use exploits they atleast expect us to do same or what... dont tell me moral in a game.. dont tell me a bs killed ur shuttle and it was unfair lets simply do somethign against it! cause i hate this kind of post's in a game.. they used an spy they use brains it looks for me ofc they do.. my question is why didnt the titan pilot whose titan got destroyed simply waited somewhere at a ss wth.. he flys a titan hes long enough in the game to know bob...
i could write much more but since i like simple things i just say: expect the worst and hope for best!
i dont want to say bob are bad players or use any kind of cheap tactic a tactic that works is a good tactic..
u got to adapt or u cant and u will not play eve anymore as ur simply overwhelmed by them...
guess thats the point where the devs will interfer casue noone likes a super power to become tompowerfull and can do whatever they like t whoever thy dont like..
dont tell me devs helped bob to kill a titan or such.. if they did they wont anymore cause they see people get mad at it and if it becomes to much of a discussion more people will quit playing eve as its sensless fighting against dev's or gm's
WTH if B0B want it this way we should all givem what they asking for. i say pay back and stop flaming!
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Forsaken Priest
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
[464]
Among all these post there is one clear oversight on everyones part.
The problem is not BOB using lame tactics, that is their choice if they want to lose the respect of the eve community. I may also point out that this is most likely the choice of the leaders / FCs and not the individual members. Stereotyping is just as lame.
The probem is not the use of spies or "bordeline" "exploits" of game mechanics, that in the end anyone has the choice to use.
It quite simply the fact that we get no indication in 0.0 of an active agression timer. There is one available, and yet, for some reason ccp have decided that you dont get to see it. If we were given a visual referance of the timer, then we would be given the opportunity to weigh up whether the RL demands outweigh the potential loss of a ship due to an active agression timer.
Either way as it stands its a guessing game, and its quite clearly been shown that it can be taken advantage of.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
[465]
Its acrying shame, that. I'd desperately hoped the second titan to pop would be an actual battle death. But it does really look like the only way to kill a titan is with meta-gaming: ASCN lost their titan to a pilot***** up, and now D2 have lost theirs to an infamous dirty tactic, to which there is no defense.
Maybe number three might die an impressive death
Anyhow, props to the killers, and condolences to D2. --------
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum most problems can be solved with chloroform.
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Shuriken Ertai
Princeps Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
[466]
Originally by: Voyageur Well, CCP actually returned the Erebus to D2. Official dec of d2 comes a bit later on. Check your info.
Proof please?
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ArmyOfMe
Exotic Dancers Club Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Exelsior
Originally by: ArmyOfMe Might be a legit kill but damn its a lame kill however your looking at it
I find it funny how your whole alliance, all of your allies. Your whole 'coalition' was collectively chanting how the kill wasn't legit. Information you apparently got out of where the sun don't shine.
Now it's switched from 'not legit' to 'lame'. What next? Need i remind you that almost no one in Eve plays fairly, and that pretty much every major alliance has done, is doing, and will do lame things, as well as use lame tactics. So please, for the love of god hold yourself to the high standards you impose upon others.
BoB aren't gods, and will use whatever legit method they can of winning. They have all the right to do it, especially at a time like this when there's a massive bandwagon against them.
Until you can, hand on heart, swear that no one in your alliance or coalition uses lame tactics or tactics which border on exploits, you have no right to critisize others for principles you fail to uphold yourself.
please show me were i have posted before that the kill wasnt legit? I didnt post at all about the kills before d2 made this thread so i knew my facts were straight
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JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
:D I wonder how many months it'll take for everyone to completely understand how it happened.
Months? People will refuse to understand into perpetuity because they don't want to...
2 words..
GRASSY + KNOLL
http://www.evereserve.com |
Breed Love
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
[469]
gratz to bob for a brilliantly executed plan.
btw if the titan pilot took all the necessary precautions, he would have avoided this easily. -----
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest!
QFT!! |
Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
[470]
About if it's legit or not - how you see that is mainly going to depend on the attitude you have towards interpreting rules in general.
If you are an adherent of the school of thought that inteprets rules by 'the letter of the law' (as the UK/US legal system tends to do), you'll tend to find it legit.
If you are an adherent of the school of thought that interprets rules by 'the spirit of the law' (as many continental European legal tend to do), you will probably find it not legit.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
[471]
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: ingriD A smartbomb dont DO DAMAGE in a forcefield and dont do flag timer.
exploit spotted.
Wrong. The pilot is clearly out side the force field, so your argument is mute.
Moot. MOOT. MOOOOOOOOOT!
:D I wonder how many months it'll take for everyone to completely understand how it happened.
What is a homosexual cow enjoying an apple martini?
Ill take animal sounds for 600 alex.
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JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
[472]
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
:D I wonder how many months it'll take for everyone to completely understand how it happened.
Months? People will refuse to understand into perpetuity because they don't want to...
2 words..
GRASSY + KNOLL
http://www.evereserve.com |
Breed Love
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
[473]
gratz to bob for a brilliantly executed plan.
btw if the titan pilot took all the necessary precautions, he would have avoided this easily. -----
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest!
QFT!! |
Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
[474]
About if it's legit or not - how you see that is mainly going to depend on the attitude you have towards interpreting rules in general.
If you are an adherent of the school of thought that inteprets rules by 'the letter of the law' (as the UK/US legal system tends to do), you'll tend to find it legit.
If you are an adherent of the school of thought that interprets rules by 'the spirit of the law' (as many continental European legal tend to do), you will probably find it not legit.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: ingriD A smartbomb dont DO DAMAGE in a forcefield and dont do flag timer.
exploit spotted.
Wrong. The pilot is clearly out side the force field, so your argument is mute.
Moot. MOOT. MOOOOOOOOOT!
:D I wonder how many months it'll take for everyone to completely understand how it happened.
What is a homosexual cow enjoying an apple martini?
Ill take animal sounds for 600 alex.
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Eron Lygera
Gallente Sharded Awareness
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:25:00 -
[476]
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Eron Lygera Edited by: Eron Lygera on 16/02/2007 21:44:27
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT Again this shows that BoD can't and will not fight fair, We hope that D¦ will continue and laugh in the face of BoD and to all the other pets of BoD.
They are ruining the game for all the fair playing peeps out there who want to fight fair, we know there is no point in calling on CCP/BoD to make this a fair game...who knows why, they must have a "we don't give a damn attitude we have made enough cash"
We all hear CCP/BoD calling for peeps to leave empire...I think what they are saying is join BoD! who really wants to play a game where CCP favour 1 alliance? CCP/BoD you must have a self destruct button and you love to press it, what is it? you embarrassed that you are pants at your own game?
If a nice little BoD puppet (MOD) wants to delete this and warn me or ban me from the forums, ***** on cause I don't give a smeg anymore!
Do you believe that yourself?
First, why would a game developing company favor a certain player alliance over others? What could they possible gain from this?
Second... step away from the PC, look in mirror and repeat 10 times "its just a game".
From a empire dveller to all you 0.0 jockies - what is wrong with you?
I believe the admission on what a DEV apologised for! and CCP have mentioned time and time again that they approve of the alliance and how it is run, and this alliance is BoB...with the above admission of this DEV and with the lack of action from CCP errr I think alot of players seem undone too.
So walk away from the comp ya self and drink some coffee and wake TFU
If you are so angry with CCP, why are you still a paying costumer?
Beating BOB would never change your harsh feelings towards a company in iceland anyway.
What do I need to wake up from? If you think someone is out to get you, then log off and know that nobody can ever get to you. EVER. Relax, enjoy the game. Because its still a game - no matter what T20 did.
Ps. Dont nerf WCS! |
Empyre
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie Friendly fire should not give you aggro. This is a bug and needs to be fixed.
as much as i love seeing d2 lose a titan..
/signed
don't think it's a bug but it is highly inconvenient when you're just messing with your own outside a station. making it non-agro would surely eliminate the ability for people to use spies to do this sort of thing again, if CCP sees this ultimately as an unfair tactic.
People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue. |
Eron Lygera
Gallente Sharded Awareness
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:25:00 -
[478]
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Eron Lygera Edited by: Eron Lygera on 16/02/2007 21:44:27
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT Again this shows that BoD can't and will not fight fair, We hope that D¦ will continue and laugh in the face of BoD and to all the other pets of BoD.
They are ruining the game for all the fair playing peeps out there who want to fight fair, we know there is no point in calling on CCP/BoD to make this a fair game...who knows why, they must have a "we don't give a damn attitude we have made enough cash"
We all hear CCP/BoD calling for peeps to leave empire...I think what they are saying is join BoD! who really wants to play a game where CCP favour 1 alliance? CCP/BoD you must have a self destruct button and you love to press it, what is it? you embarrassed that you are pants at your own game?
If a nice little BoD puppet (MOD) wants to delete this and warn me or ban me from the forums, ***** on cause I don't give a smeg anymore!
Do you believe that yourself?
First, why would a game developing company favor a certain player alliance over others? What could they possible gain from this?
Second... step away from the PC, look in mirror and repeat 10 times "its just a game".
From a empire dveller to all you 0.0 jockies - what is wrong with you?
I believe the admission on what a DEV apologised for! and CCP have mentioned time and time again that they approve of the alliance and how it is run, and this alliance is BoB...with the above admission of this DEV and with the lack of action from CCP errr I think alot of players seem undone too.
So walk away from the comp ya self and drink some coffee and wake TFU
If you are so angry with CCP, why are you still a paying costumer?
Beating BOB would never change your harsh feelings towards a company in iceland anyway.
What do I need to wake up from? If you think someone is out to get you, then log off and know that nobody can ever get to you. EVER. Relax, enjoy the game. Because its still a game - no matter what T20 did.
Ps. Dont nerf WCS! |
Empyre
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie Friendly fire should not give you aggro. This is a bug and needs to be fixed.
as much as i love seeing d2 lose a titan..
/signed
don't think it's a bug but it is highly inconvenient when you're just messing with your own outside a station. making it non-agro would surely eliminate the ability for people to use spies to do this sort of thing again, if CCP sees this ultimately as an unfair tactic.
People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue. |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 16/02/2007 23:22:50
Originally by: Areena Shay
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar We are all slaves to CCP. From where I sit, you are just another slave slinging dirt at everyone else proclaiming your hands are clean. Honey, you have an awful lot to learn.
Ok..thanks sweet cheeks x
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