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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.29 22:08:03 -
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Temba Mapindazi wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Temba Mapindazi wrote:Galaxy Mule wrote:Temba Mapindazi wrote:To the OP, how would it even be possible to castrate cowardly wannabe bumping gank groupies whose preferred created content play style proves beyond doubt they already had no balls?
The butthurt is strong in this one!  Pretending to be a female in an online game, guess you know a lot about butt hurt!  Holy **** now you even proved him right. *facepalm*Is that really what you call a proper comeback? Are you really that useless? Isn't there ANYONE who is actually a skilled smack-talker? Do we really have to deal with all these low class, low education, low ability manchilds?? I must confess smack talking is not something I excel at. The quick juvenile assumption that someone is butt hurt because they dislike cowards who gank unarmed ships is irksome. Especially when I have never been ganked by one of those low iq tag along wannabe warriors. The fact that people actually pretend they have demonstrated some level of skill is perplexing. EVE has an abundance of great pilots who fearlessly traverse all levels of it's security, these high sec back shooters don't deserve to be mentioned in the company of the intrepid pirates who engage in real PVP.
The butthurt is shown from the language you use, not what the subject is about.
Your language shows all the signs of being butthurt.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.29 22:54:21 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
The butthurt is shown from the language you use, not what the subject is about.
Your language shows all the signs of being butthurt.
Well that one was much better than the last one.
And it's not like he's wrong.
The way the modern ganker plays nowadays is embarrassing and borderline carebearish.
Though, someone who writes "real PvP" isn't exactly someone I'd take seriously either ...
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Teckos Pech
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
5143
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Posted - 2016.08.29 23:26:45 -
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Temba Mapindazi wrote:To the OP, how would it even be possible to castrate cowardly wannabe bumping gank groupies whose preferred created content play style proves beyond doubt they already had no balls? Just asking. Bumping should damage and disable the ship initiating the collision without the possibility to eject and damage sec status like any other criminal attack. Time these alts started facing a little risk & consequences for the reward of enabling a gank.
It is not the fault of the gankers that you are a risk seeker.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26705
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Posted - 2016.08.30 00:15:06 -
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Temba Mapindazi wrote:Bumping should damage and disable the ship initiating the collision without the possibility to eject and damage sec status like any other criminal attack. Firstly the server has no way of telling if a bump is intentional or not, if bumping became a criminal act the undock at Jita would be a a mess of wrecks and Concord; secondly if an impact damages one ship then it stands to reason it also damages the other; in which case the laws of physics would like a word with you about how much damage an object with a mass well in excess of 1000 tons travelling at in excess of mach 2 will inflict on whatever it hits.
Quote:Time these alts started facing a little risk & consequences for the reward of enabling a gank. You could try shooting them, there's nothing mechanically stopping you from doing so once your safety is turned off.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Temba Mapindazi
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Posted - 2016.08.30 00:55:07 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Temba Mapindazi wrote:Bumping should damage and disable the ship initiating the collision without the possibility to eject and damage sec status like any other criminal attack. Firstly the server has no way of telling if a bump is intentional or not, if bumping became a criminal act the undock at Jita would be a a mess of wrecks and Concord; secondly if an impact damages one ship then it stands to reason it also damages the other; in which case the laws of physics would like a word with you about how much damage an object with a mass well in excess of 1000 tons travelling at in excess of mach 2 will inflict on whatever it hits. Quote:Time these alts started facing a little risk & consequences for the reward of enabling a gank. You could try shooting them, there's nothing mechanically stopping you from doing so once your safety is turned off. How long have you or did you work for CCP? Seems like you know what data their servers collect, please share how you acquired such knowledge or admit it's your opinion/ guess and not an actual fact. My guess is the server that can uncloak my ship when it gets to within 2000 meters of a frozen dead body could be programmed to determine whom accelerated towards a stationary or orbiting ship to case a collision. Considering the calculations that it takes daily right now to determine damage effectiveness of ordnance based on angle, distance, and speed I suspect the servers might be up to the task.
The undock at Jita is one of the worst immersion breaks in the game, ships passing thru each other, a total mess. I wish CCP would do something about that, an orderly departure even if it meant delay would be far better. When Jita is over crowded access to enter the entire system is slowed at gates and login, undocking should be handled the same.
Sadly a ball of twisting writhing ships is a hallmark of CCP large battles so I don't see them changing that mechanic anytime soon.
A combat pilot must have two goals to survive, -á#1 get the first shot in every fight , #2 get the last shot in every fight!
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Temba Mapindazi
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Posted - 2016.08.30 01:04:16 -
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The butthurt is shown from the language you use, not what the subject is about.
Your language shows all the signs of being butthurt.[/quote]
So speaking plain English makes one seem butt hurt? Quite an interesting projection I suspect, butt I'm only guessing. 
A combat pilot must have two goals to survive, -á#1 get the first shot in every fight , #2 get the last shot in every fight!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26707
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Posted - 2016.08.30 03:50:52 -
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Temba Mapindazi wrote:How long have you or did you work for CCP? Seems like you know what data their servers collect, please share how you acquired such knowledge or admit it's your opinion/ guess and not an actual fact. While it is my opinion, it is also the opinion of people far more knowledgeable about the code than either you or I
Quote:My guess is the server that can uncloak my ship when it gets to within 2000 meters of a frozen dead body could be programmed to determine whom accelerated towards a stationary or orbiting ship to case a collision. If it could be done, which is doubtful, and more importantly if CCP wanted to do so it would have been implemented long ago; bumping has been a contentious subject for years and my best guess is that the forthcoming solution that allows ships to eventually warp regardless of being bumped is the best that they can do given the lack of documentation on old code.
Quote:Considering the calculations that it takes daily right now to determine damage effectiveness of ordnance based on angle, distance, and speed I suspect the servers might be up to the task. That's fairly simple trigonometry, who'dathunk that computers were good at fairly simple maths; anyone that's halfway decent at hitting a moving target with a gun or bow can do it in their heads.
Quote:The undock at Jita is one of the worst immersion breaks in the game, ships passing thru each other, a total mess. I wish CCP would do something about that, an orderly departure even if it meant delay would be far better. When Jita is over crowded access to enter the entire system is slowed at gates and login, undocking should be handled the same. So CCP should limit the functionality of the major trade hub in the game to be aesthetically pleasing? Get real.
Quote:Sadly a ball of twisting writhing ships is a hallmark of CCP large battles so I don't see them changing that mechanic anytime soon. So tell me.. why do you play this game? You clearly dislike pretty much everything about it.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
5144
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Posted - 2016.08.30 04:10:36 -
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Temba Mapindazi wrote:
snipping a whole lot of whine....
Why don't you just not overload your freighter in terms of ISK value?
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Valacus
Streets of Fire
135
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Posted - 2016.08.30 04:45:35 -
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Bexol Regyri wrote:I have only been playing eve for about 5 months and started out a high sec miner. One of the things that attracted me to eve was that it was pretty much what I expected of space from all the scifi books I read full of good guys and bad guys and that space is not a safe place. One of the things I found out right away was about 1/2 the players in space were not engaged in the game. There would be an ice belt with 30 people in it, but no one was really there. Their ships just mining away while they did stuff in real life. I almost fell into the same trap but then I met the pirates, as I later found out where called gankers in this game, mercs and griefers. At first I was like these guys are jerks to put it nicely. The more I watched them blow up people the more I realized they are forcing people to stay engaged in the game. At the same time I watched CCP make changes to hamper the high sec content creators and cater people to people that are not actively engaged while undocked. How does that help a healthy community?
so my question is why does it seem like CCP wants to stop or make close to impossible all non PVE highsec content when players have tons of in game tools avoid dying like d-scan, local chat, kills in system on map, etc...?
Because they don't like you. Next question. |
The Leopardess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2016.08.31 23:44:38 -
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Bexol Regyri wrote:I have only been playing eve for about 5 months and started out a high sec miner. One of the things that attracted me to eve was that it was pretty much what I expected of space from all the scifi books I read full of good guys and bad guys and that space is not a safe place. One of the things I found out right away was about 1/2 the players in space were not engaged in the game. There would be an ice belt with 30 people in it, but no one was really there. Their ships just mining away while they did stuff in real life. I almost fell into the same trap but then I met the pirates, as I later found out where called gankers in this game, mercs and griefers. At first I was like these guys are jerks to put it nicely. The more I watched them blow up people the more I realized they are forcing people to stay engaged in the game. At the same time I watched CCP make changes to hamper the high sec content creators and cater people to people that are not actively engaged while undocked. How does that help a healthy community?
so my question is why does it seem like CCP wants to stop or make close to impossible all non PVE highsec content when players have tons of in game tools avoid dying like d-scan, local chat, kills in system on map, etc...?
Well just a minor point but it seems to me that fact that the miners are all sort of semi-afk is very realistic. I know if I was aboard a mining barge armed to the teeth I'd be watching movies while monitoring vitals. I kind of like that about Eve. If you want to be social join a huge nullbloc alliance with 24/7 crowds on comms, seriously not dissing you just sounds like you're kindof lonely. |
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
4
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Posted - 2016.09.01 13:44:38 -
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Temba Mapindazi wrote:Galaxy Mule wrote:Temba Mapindazi wrote:To the OP, how would it even be possible to castrate cowardly wannabe bumping gank groupies whose preferred created content play style proves beyond doubt they already had no balls?
The butthurt is strong in this one! Pretending to be a female in an online game, guess you know a lot about butt hurt!
Are you less sexually threatened if I reply with a male character? The fact that you think I'm pretending to be female because some of my characters are, I think says something pretty weird about you.
P.S. Your tears are nectar. |
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
4
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Posted - 2016.09.01 13:54:22 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
The butthurt is shown from the language you use, not what the subject is about.
Your language shows all the signs of being butthurt.
Well that one was much better than the last one. And it's not like he's wrong. The way the modern ganker plays nowadays is embarrassing and borderline carebearish. Though, someone who writes "real PvP" isn't exactly someone I'd take seriously either ...
Yeah! Gankers should all hop around grid like autistic bunnies! I mean, they have no real motivation to do so, but the local dimwits will think you're really cool for doing it!
I miss the good ol' days when ganker all did this! (No one except for Solstice) |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.01 14:45:23 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
The butthurt is shown from the language you use, not what the subject is about.
Your language shows all the signs of being butthurt.
Well that one was much better than the last one. And it's not like he's wrong. The way the modern ganker plays nowadays is embarrassing and borderline carebearish. Though, someone who writes "real PvP" isn't exactly someone I'd take seriously either ... Yeah! Gankers should all hop around grid like autistic bunnies! I mean, they have no real motivation to do so, but the local dimwits will think you're really cool for doing it! I miss the good ol' days when ganker all did this! (No one except for Solstice)
And here you see the lazy ass, who chestbeats about how he ...
... sits in station all day until he undocks for 30 seconds.
... needs an alt to find targets, because his ganking char needs to be safe.
You still haven't learned that you have no arguments against me ...
... and still try to go ad hominem, indirectly giving me an advantage every single time.
When will you learn?
When?
When will you drop the ego and attitude and realize that your hubris only damages you?
You morons do nothing but ganking and chest beating, all creamed up with propaganda.
The stats from CCP tell that you FAIL at converting miners to skiffs and procurers!
WHEN?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
5
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Posted - 2016.09.01 15:15:05 -
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Lol you clearly haven't visited the ice fields in the last few years. |
Fade Azura
Logistics and Salvage Express Services
166
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Posted - 2016.09.01 17:16:41 -
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i dont think they mean to castrate them .. they just dont want them living in a safe little bubble in their own little world. socialization is one of the best parts of this game for good and bad. |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
514
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Posted - 2016.09.01 22:49:13 -
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Bexol Regyri wrote:I it seems you are confused, WOW is a ultra safe game compared to Eve. another reason why i am here instead of there.
You will find out very quickly that if you make any complaints, talk about what should be changed, or what you don't like, you will have the idiots, halfwits and self abusers spew out the tired old mantra... "Go back to WOW" or possibly "You need to come out of your moms basement"....
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Faylee Freir
The Phoenix Rising
Vendetta Mercenary Group
287
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Posted - 2016.09.01 23:39:31 -
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Andrea Cemenotar wrote:hehe hehe
gankers, content creators
hehe good joke, really
one advice to OP - if he is clearly as new as he claims - burst dpsing down a ship that has barely any tools apart from certainity that the guys who are killing him will loose their ships as well IS NOT a content
bumping a freighter to deny it enter a warp in which case he does not even have THAT quarantee is also NOT a content
and hence - however you will put it up - the guys who engage it just for the sake of griefing and or big isk killmail are NOT content CREATORS because what they "create" - even assuming thats the proper word here IS NOT a CONTENT.
even on first few pages of this thread you could see quite a few of examples of actuall high-sec content creators.
and no actuall content creators in high sec are in no way "castrated" from the ability of creating the content
This game is a sandbox. Everything is "content".
HTFU
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
8
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Posted - 2016.09.06 13:42:29 -
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If everyone creates content then no one does. This is logic 101. Do you even Plato? |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
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Posted - 2016.09.07 07:08:36 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:If everyone creates content then no one does. This is logic 101. Do you even Plato?
Exactly! That's the dirty secret CCP wants us not to see: There are no content creators, it's all just delusion! |
Teckos Pech
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
5202
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Posted - 2016.09.07 08:00:10 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:If everyone creates content then no one does. This is logic 101. Do you even Plato?
If everyone creates content, then everyone does.
This isn't one of those things like say steroids in sports, if everyone does it, then it isn't cheating. If everyone is providing content then we all have more content.
It is not a zero sum game.
Do you even game theory? Didn't think so.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron
The-Culture
1885
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Posted - 2016.09.07 12:15:32 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Galaxy Duck wrote:If everyone creates content then no one does. This is logic 101. Do you even Plato? If everyone creates content, then everyone does. This isn't one of those things like say steroids in sports, if everyone does it, then it isn't cheating. If everyone is providing content then we all have more content. It is not a zero sum game. Do you even game theory? Didn't think so.
I believe he is talking about 'creating high-sec content' in form of killing unprepared ship. In this case when everybody decides to be 'content creator' there will be no one in unprepared ships for this content to be 'provided'.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Infinity Ziona
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
2458
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Posted - 2016.09.07 13:02:14 -
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CCP create the content. No player creates actual content. We are users not developers.
There are some games like minecraft where devs create content which users use to create content from but there is no analogy similiar functionality in EvE.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.07 13:22:37 -
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I guess that means when CCP talks about players creating content ...
... they're all liars.
Hail IZ for knowing the only truth, even better than those who make the game!
Hail IZ, the SJW!
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Serene Repose
2924
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Posted - 2016.09.07 13:43:13 -
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The best way to keep a thread from dying, no matter how ridiculous it becomes,
is to put the word "castrate" in the subject line.
When a corporation says something in order to increase its sales by creating an idea (however dubious it might be), then someone who sees themselves as being oh-so-smart starts tossing around that sales pitch as though it's a carved-in-stone fact, one has no choice but to ROFLCOPTER!!
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Infinity Ziona
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
2460
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Posted - 2016.09.07 13:47:49 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I guess that means when CCP talks about players creating content ...
... they're all liars.
Hail IZ for knowing the only truth, even better than those who make the game!
Hail IZ, the SJW!
No. Theyre mistaken.
Proud to be interested and active in social justice. Better that than a soft pasty white consumer of Propaganda Fox.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
11
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Posted - 2016.09.07 13:58:37 -
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The emperor has no clothes! There is no such thing as a highsec content creator! Er, -I mean everyone is! The term is meaningless! Discussion over!
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.09.07 14:03:11 -
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And here we have it, the social justice warrior IZ telling us that CCP is mistaken!
SJW always know everything better and they are never mistaken!
Hail IZ, our one true leader!
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Infinity Ziona
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
2460
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Posted - 2016.09.07 14:18:57 -
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Solecist Project wrote:And here we have it, the social justice warrior IZ telling us that CCP is mistaken!
SJW always know everything better and they are never mistaken!
Hail IZ, our one true leader!
:)
Game content is the art, music, environment, npc's, vehicles, and everything else the DEVELOPERS put into the game for players to play with. This is where the term newbie, mid level and end game content came from.
CCP can attempt to redefine the word content as it applies to games so they can spin the Player Create Content sales pitch all they like but it doesn't change the definition of the term.
When CCP introduces something that players can use to create unique player made content they can legitimately claim their players create content. Until then their players simply use the scarce content they put in to create interactions between players, whether its a gank, a gatecamp or a war, it still is not content, its simply activity based on the content CCP provided.
The closest thing to player made content based on EVE are things like EFT, killboards, online casino's but they're not in game so they're NOT actual player made content that one can enjoy in the game, you enjoy them out of the game.
Thank you for your tears and rage posting. Always a pleasure to educate one such as yourself.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Teckos Pech
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
5203
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Posted - 2016.09.07 21:16:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Solecist Project wrote:And here we have it, the social justice warrior IZ telling us that CCP is mistaken!
SJW always know everything better and they are never mistaken!
Hail IZ, our one true leader! :) Game content is the art, music, environment, npc's, vehicles, and everything else the DEVELOPERS put into the game for players to play with. This is where the term newbie, mid level and end game content came from. CCP can attempt to redefine the word content as it applies to games so they can spin the Player Create Content sales pitch all they like but it doesn't change the definition of the term. When CCP introduces something that players can use to create unique player made content they can legitimately claim their players create content. Until then their players simply use the scarce content they put in to create interactions between players, whether its a gank, a gatecamp or a war, it still is not content, its simply activity based on the content CCP provided. The closest thing to player made content based on EVE are things like EFT, killboards, online casino's but they're not in game so they're NOT actual player made content that one can enjoy in the game, you enjoy them out of the game. Thank you for your tears and rage posting. Always a pleasure to educate one such as yourself.
No.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Rawmeat Mary
Celtic Anarchy
Complaints Department
139
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Posted - 2016.09.07 21:41:09 -
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Community interaction is also content.
Thus blowing up ships, wherever it is, is.
'If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins onto their clothing.
And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order.'
Yeah, we're like that.
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