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Morgan Johnstone
Star Tide Industries
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:04:19 -
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Quick question/speculation request:
Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.
I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?
JW...
Morgan Johnstone
Disabled Players Union
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:06:37 -
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What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?
VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
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Morgan Johnstone
Star Tide Industries
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:12:41 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?
VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
Sounds good to me. :)
Morgan Johnstone
Disabled Players Union
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:19:33 -
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Why do you need VR to look at Spreadsheets? |
Tigh Edatosmi
Bound And Determined
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:34:22 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Why do you need VR to look at Spreadsheets?
Spreadsheets in 3D. Behold, Excel Tensor 2020! |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:39:07 -
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I won't lie, having a VR option for EVE might make me save up for a VR headset. Being able to literally look around my ship for navigation would be fantastic.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Daemun Khanid
Kameiran Order Team Amarrica
541
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Posted - 2016.05.02 14:41:29 -
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no.
Daemun of Khanid
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.02 15:01:46 -
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I'd be interested in trying out room-scale VR to walk around the grid. Perhaps one controller would be a clipboard like graphic showing all the usual controls and overview, the other controller would be to manipulate those controls as well as zoom, rotate and move the grid view. Not sure how immersive/useful that would be though, beyond just eye-candy.
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marVLs
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Posted - 2016.05.02 15:22:51 -
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TigerXtrm wrote: VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
Pretty sure that quote will be "lol" in future |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.02 15:30:27 -
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marVLs wrote:TigerXtrm wrote: VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
Pretty sure that quote will be "lol" in future
Maybe 50 years from now. The current bulky "wear big thing on face with massive wire coming out" itteration that is VR isn't in any form a comfortable way of gaming. As new tech becomes available I'm sure it will conquer its place, but that's decades away.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2458
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Posted - 2016.05.02 15:37:41 -
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marVLs wrote:TigerXtrm wrote: VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
Pretty sure that quote will be "lol" in future I'm sure you also have one of this 3D TVs.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
9760
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Posted - 2016.05.02 15:40:52 -
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EVE cant get better for VR than Valkyrie.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.02 15:45:55 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:marVLs wrote:TigerXtrm wrote: VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
Pretty sure that quote will be "lol" in future Maybe 50 years from now. The current bulky "wear big thing on face with massive wire coming out" itteration that is VR isn't in any form a comfortable way of gaming. As new tech becomes available I'm sure it will conquer its place, but that's decades away. I think "decades" is an extremely pessimistic view. Consider that less then 10 years ago, the most advanced smartphone was something like a Palm Treo with a 320x320 display. There will certainly be situations for which VR isn't appropriate, but I think the technology will be significantly advanced in only a few years. |
Daemun Khanid
Kameiran Order Team Amarrica
541
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Posted - 2016.05.02 16:17:17 -
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VR will be the norm and not a gimmic once its built into our eyeballs and doesnt require extra "gear." Go ahead and hold your breath.
Eve has absolutely zero to gain from and would be idiotic to format for VR just like most other 3rd person games. Just take a look at the "glowing" reviews for the pointless 3rd person titles shipped w occulus rift. WTF would anyone think Super mario would be cool in VR. When youre out of person that kinda defeats the purpose of "virtual REALITY" dont you think? The only way to put eve into vr would be to change the entire game to a first person experience... Like I dunno... Valkyrie? Point being, at that point its not eve anymore.
Daemun of Khanid
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Daemun Khanid
Kameiran Order Team Amarrica
541
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Posted - 2016.05.02 16:20:06 -
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marVLs wrote:TigerXtrm wrote: VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
Pretty sure that quote will be "lol" in future
Hows that Nintendo Virtual Boy? Wasnt that supposed to be the "next generation of gaming?"
Daemun of Khanid
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Vegarc
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.02 18:07:41 -
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Morgan Johnstone wrote:Quick question/speculation request:
Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.
I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?
JW... How you can play EVE, drink beer and eat pizza at the same time when VR headset interrupts your vision in the real world? |
hurgmurflUr
No Corporation for Old Spacemen
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Posted - 2016.05.02 18:21:02 -
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Good lord, I hope not. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.05.02 18:27:18 -
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oh man i play eve waaaaaaaaaaaaay too drunk to be screwing around with expensive **** like a vr headset.
Better the Devil you know.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2016.05.02 18:31:01 -
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Vegarc wrote:Morgan Johnstone wrote:Quick question/speculation request:
Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.
I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?
JW... How you can play EVE, drink beer and eat pizza at the same time when VR headset interrupts your vision in the real world? Exactly, You could end up playing pizza, eating beer and drinking EVE.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Pix Severus
Empty You
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Posted - 2016.05.02 18:31:21 -
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Vegarc wrote:Morgan Johnstone wrote:Quick question/speculation request:
Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.
I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?
JW... How you can play EVE, drink beer and eat pizza at the same time when VR headset interrupts your vision in the real world?
Some VR headsets have a front-facing camera which displays constant footage of your room/desk/whatever in a small window in the corner of your virtual screen, allowing you to interact with the real world, while playing in the virtual.
Anyway, we would probably get real spaceships before EVE became VR-only.
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Warlander Maulerant
ROC Academy ROC.
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Posted - 2016.05.02 18:39:44 -
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VR and EVE? Don't sound like a good fit, unless you imagine it like being in some kind of "commander deck" (well, in case of EVE more like "pod deck") like in Elite: Dangerous (but still seeing your ship from outside). |
Rook Moray
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.05.02 19:54:14 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?
Videogame RPGs are a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional tabletop pen/paper/dice gaming.
Fixed that for ya.
(Anyone got any old Traveller books for sale?)
GÇ£When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart.GÇ¥ -Guristas Proverb.
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Varathius
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
229
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Posted - 2016.05.02 20:04:21 -
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Well, CCP did implement "cockpit view" (for whatever reason), so everything is possible really.. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7611
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Posted - 2016.05.02 21:01:44 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?
VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.
Where you the guy who said to the inventor of the VCR "nobody will want to record anything from the TV" ?
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Rumbless
Not The Droids You Are Looking For
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Posted - 2016.05.02 21:08:32 -
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VR failed horribly the first time around. I don't have high hopes this time either. |
Daemun Khanid
Kameiran Order Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2016.05.02 22:26:27 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?
VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen. Where you the guy who said to the inventor of the VCR "nobody will want to record anything from the TV" ?
There's a huge difference between something thats is functional, convenient, usefull and provides an other wise unavailable purpose and a toy.
Plug a little box into the tv and now you can do "x"
Vs
Buy a $2000 rig + $700 vr gear, setup a suitable room space and install sensors, strap a small shoe box to your head and connect it via umbilical to afforementioned pc rig thats likely as big as a small end table so you can.... See a virtual word the same as you'd be able to see without a shoe box strapped to your head.
Instead of comparing it to a vcr a more apt comparison would be laser disc or a car that can drive on water. Atleast w the laser disc it helped paved the way for the relatively small leap forward to dvd. A comparable leap for wearable, functional VR is as mentioned a LONG way off.
The real "lol" in the future will be ppl laughing at us for ever thinking such bulky, cumbersome and ultimately poor performing gear was worth paying money for.
As I said before, when VR gear can be utilized unobtrusively alongside similarly compact and unobtrusive hardware it will find a wide and prosperous market. Go ahead and hold your breath.
Daemun of Khanid
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ColdCutz
Frigonometry
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Posted - 2016.05.03 01:04:57 -
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Rumbless wrote:VR failed horribly the first time around. I don't have high hopes this time either. I don't have high hopes in your ability to understand why VR failed horribly the first time around. |
TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.03 02:58:52 -
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VR is but the beginning, the not too distant future will see dedicated rooms sporting Star Trekian style holodecks containing a mixture of holographic imaging and hardware. Depending on how far out this concept becomes reality Eve may or may not be a part of it, but space sims, flight sims, power plant sims and even square-rigged sailing ship sims will be "on the shelf". This will not happen in my generation, nor the next, but one of these days the "holoroom" or whatever it winds up being called will not just serve as a gaming station but will be where people work, interact, order groceries, all that. A shame I'm not going to be around to see it.
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Pathetic at PvP but handy with a spreadsheet; lost a bunch of ships but not one spreadsheet.
Credo: You don't WIN in this game; you SURVIVE in this game.
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Kaska Iskalar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2016.05.03 03:20:16 -
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I don't see how Eve would gain anything from being VR. |
Kaska Iskalar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2016.05.03 03:24:28 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?
VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen. Where you the guy who said to the inventor of the VCR "nobody will want to record anything from the TV" ?
The difference is that a VCR works on all TV shows and it's always useful to be able to watch something whenever you want. VR doesn't work in most games, nor would most genres gain anything from having it. It's also optional and very expensive, which means it's highly unlikely to go mainstream. |
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