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Sgt Napalm
Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.02.21 19:42:00 -
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WTS: Tips on not getting scammed, 2 Mil a tip --- [Video] Skool of Harpy - Da Blarpy |
Mealka
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.21 19:46:00 -
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IT is the same thing like in real world .. you buy a copy of somthing if you are carefoul. C`est la vie. Just take care... if it is a real seller will sell the thing in your way:D
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LordKain
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.02.21 19:47:00 -
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I draw your attention that pirating , ore stealing etc are some parts of your risk in game. Its accepted by all player, probably as a element of game, but in my case we are talking about some none perfect mechanics of trade. This is little bit different, isnt?
However If someone says It's legit so in consequence all players should be thief like that, because nobody will be punished.
I dont care that I lost isk, but I dont want to pay for lack of CCP's activities . Who answer why escrow was removed in game, hy?
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ragewind
Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: LordKain I draw your attention that pirating , ore stealing etc are some parts of your risk in game. Its accepted by all player, probably as a element of game, but in my case we are talking about some none perfect mechanics of trade. This is little bit different, isnt?
However If someone says It's legit so in consequence all players should be thief like that, because nobody will be punished.
I dont care that I lost isk, but I dont want to pay for lack of CCP's activities . Who answer why escrow was removed in game, hy?
so there isnt scams on ebay then is that what you saying?
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Fitz VonHeise
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.02.21 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 21/02/2007 20:25:19
/signed.
One of the main points of changing the old Contracting system to the new was that there were too many scams going on.
For CCP to leave a KNOWN instrument for scamming as part of the Contracting system is hypocritical and leads people to not trust any aspect of Contracting. Fix this CCP.
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Lars Intarestum
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Posted - 2007.02.21 20:51:00 -
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Allright, allright... Let's remember. CCP has X number of developers. X << The number needed to easily fix any and everything. Scamming is something that you can easily avoid by giving your brain half a use. All the other bugs and features that need to be developed could probably take priority.
Besides, you get the vague impression that maybe by giving legitmate industrialists the tools they need to handle business, they might be giving bad tools to scammers? I mean... WTF?! Naming contracts?! OMFG! EXPLOITZ!!
You wouldn't buy a car without looking under the hood, right?
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FalconHawk
Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.21 20:59:00 -
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maybe you should use the search more often, there is no need to whine about scams all day long when there are already omgwtf many posts ...and then in the wrong forum ....
Oveur¦s answer about recent contract scams
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Jahria Jaeger
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:06:00 -
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how many ppl should be scammed by others to change rulez by CCP?
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Esiluna
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Esiluna on 21/02/2007 21:05:42
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Brewmeister
Gallente SNAP.
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:09:00 -
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the free form option is verry unclear in my opinion... ccp should have a look at it...
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Ariwa
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:21:00 -
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It's very clear. Freeform means you can do whatever you want with it.
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AirWalker
Amarr Galactic Response Team
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:28:00 -
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i'm sorry but if you get scammed its your own damn fault....I've played this game for coming on 3 years now and not once have i gotten scammed
its part of the game...get over it....cry alone at home...and not on the forums, maybe next time you'll smarten up
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: CarboniC Hi There are players who are just learning the game
Hi The OP is talking about a quantity (more than 1) of T2 ships. If he has the skills and ISK to buy multiple T2 ships, he isn't "just learning the game". I never bash genuinely new players
Originally by: Brewmeister the free form option is verry unclear in my opinion... ccp should have a look at it...
Actually, it is very clear. It is exactly what the name says: "freeform" where the parties are free to form whatever they want. If you want your contract to be enforced (i.e. seller forced to sell, buyer forced to pay, etc), use the existing templates like Item Exchange and Courier. It doesn't get simpler than that.
== Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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LordKain
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:31:00 -
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Lets assume after the posts:
1. dishonest players are protecting, beacsue of no CCP reaction 2. unclear forms of contracting, maybe more events needed to do sth 3. lack of CCP comments, no idea how solve this problem 4. players acceptance as a standard part of game 5. anything else?
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AirWalker
Amarr Galactic Response Team
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: LordKain
2. unclear forms of contracting, maybe more events needed to do sth
if you don't know what it is...or don't know how to use it....don't touch it
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Jahria Jaeger
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:46:00 -
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AirWalker, it was stupid answer. EvE is complex generally. To understand what I say plz ask some newcommers what is opinion about it
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.02.21 21:48:00 -
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You are about to accept the following freeform contract issued by N00b Scammer: "Scamz0r". You will have to provide the following amount as collateral: 1.000.000,00 ISK (1.0 Million) If the issuer deems this contract a success you will receive the following amount as payment: 10.000,00 ISK
READ THESE WARNINGS CAREFULLY!:
* Because this is a freeform contract the issuer has COMPLETE CONTROL over it and can declare it a failure at his or her own discretion.
* Accepting this contract does NOT bind N00b Scammer to give you ANY items whatsoever. Not even if any item types are listed in it. Not even if they appear with info links! There are known scams involving exactly this.
Do not accept this contract unless you trust N00b Scammer completely!
Are you sure you want to do this?
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LordKain
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:09:00 -
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it's funny no CCP response
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AirWalker
Amarr Galactic Response Team
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: LordKain it's funny no CCP response
and there shouldn't be.....don't try and force ccp to do thinking for ya (not you specifically)
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Blind Man
Kemono. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:13:00 -
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i heard the terrorists are putting stupid in the water, and you must be drinkin lots of it
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:22:00 -
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LordKain, look at my post above. CCP already responded, took down the servers, and hotfixed the warning message you get when trying to accept freeform contracts!
Its copied straight from the game.
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Empress Aphrodite
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:33:00 -
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(OP) If you're after a response from CCP, bumping this thread is not the way to get it. This issue has been discussed many times and somebody has already been generous enough to link Oveur's response.
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Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.02.22 00:01:00 -
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So many noobs here, most of them probably scammers heh.
Last time i check, when you get scam IRL, authorities do something about it. In this case thats CCP. Why aren't they doing anything? If they want the game like that, at least TELL US so everyone will STFU when they get scam.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.02.22 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 22/02/2007 00:13:56
Originally by: Draco Ronan So many noobs here, most of them probably scammers heh.
Last time i check, when you get scam IRL, authorities do something about it. In this case thats CCP. Why aren't they doing anything? If they want the game like that, at least TELL US so everyone will STFU when they get scam.
Authorities in Eve : Caldari Navy, CONCORD, Guardian Angels etc. Pod Pilots are not poor citizens in need of protection, they are rich, violent, unpredictable nobles roaming the void. They can take care of themself.
Did you actually read the message i quoted?
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You are about to accept the following freeform contract issued by N00b Scammer: "Scamz0r". You will have to provide the following amount as collateral: 1.000.000,00 ISK (1.0 Million) If the issuer deems this contract a success you will receive the following amount as payment: 10.000,00 ISK
READ THESE WARNINGS CAREFULLY!:
* Because this is a freeform contract the issuer has COMPLETE CONTROL over it and can declare it a failure at his or her own discretion.
* Accepting this contract does NOT bind N00b Scammer to give you ANY items whatsoever. Not even if any item types are listed in it. Not even if they appear with info links! There are known scams involving exactly this.
Do not accept this contract unless you trust N00b Scammer completely!
Are you sure you want to do this?
Thats what the game tells everyone who tries to accept a freeform contract. The devs stated many times, on many occasions, that the game allows scaming. Most of the people whining here are not the poor consumers who got robbed of their bread, they are greedy millionaires who thought they could rip someone off, but got burned in return.
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Murtkelpekin
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Posted - 2007.02.22 00:19:00 -
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Scamming ingame items and isk is one thing, and its up to de devs to descide what action they will take.
But scamming timecards, that are usually bought for real currency, should not be tolerated in any way.
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JohnLukePicard
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Posted - 2007.02.22 02:20:00 -
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Hehe nub ... read the tutorial...
Since it is legal to scam on contracts, i demand that we are provide with the right to a laywer , a justice system, and Judge Judy.
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Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.02.22 03:09:00 -
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Ok if scamming is allowed then let me pod those scammers in high sec.
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vile56
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.22 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Draco Ronan Ok if scamming is allowed then let me pod those scammers in high sec.
dec em
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Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.02.22 04:31:00 -
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I don't think you can declare war on a starting NPC corp
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Eves Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.22 06:39:00 -
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**** CCP I hope there ******* island fails into the ocean
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