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Heinrich Zein
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:05:00 -
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How to find a good corp?
especially corp that help new players not abuse their labor/time.
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Evachece
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:14:00 -
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the recrutement forum is a good place to start. it usualy has good descriptins of what your expected to do for the corp and what they will do for you.
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PredatorPT
New Dawn Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:34:00 -
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The most obvious thing to check is the tax rate, that is shown in the corp's attributes tab. If it's above 20%, most likely they just want to rip their members off.
You should also ask as many questions to several recruiters before deciding to join in, and compare each other to decide which one is best. (Ask questions such as what would be the advantages in joining in, does your character roles fit in the corp's mindset, are the corp's goals compatible with your long-term goals, and many others)
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Nastratu
Minmatar Serefon Creatin
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Posted - 2007.02.25 03:49:00 -
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Ask questions about benefits that they provide for their members and what they ask in return. Don't just say "and what are you guys going to do for me". But ask them about any free ships and mods, combat training, how often they have ops going on, that kind of stuff. Ask if they have any long term goals, where are they heading as a corp. If the corp just runs to suck money from its members, they won't give you sufficient replies to these questions.
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Myronides
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.25 12:29:00 -
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How does the tax rate work? What does actually a 10 or 20% tax rate means?
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Gartel Reiman
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Posted - 2007.02.25 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Gartel Reiman on 25/02/2007 14:37:32 The tax rate is basically a 'cut' of everything you make above 30K ISK in a single transaction (IIRC). This can include bounties from killing rats, rewards from agent missions, etc. This generally goes towards the corp's running costs, i.e. rent on offices, costs of producing/buying ships to reimburse players who've lost theirs, cost of ice byproducts for running POS etc.
I have seen mentioned in the Dev blogs a list of categories that, if I understood correctly, you could assign different tax rates to. Some of those were quite scary, like income from selling on the market... I don't think I'd be too happy about money being skimmed off of that! In my corp, at least, I've only really noticed money coming out from bounties and agent rewards (and as a junior accountant I can see the money going into the corp wallet).
Does anyone know whether the 30K is similar to the 'tax-free allowance' you get with income tax (here in the UK at least) or whether it's a simple eligibility test? In other words, if I kill something with a 40K bounty in a corp with a 10% tax rate, will the corp get 4K ISK (i.e. 10% x 40K) or 1K ISK (i.e. 10% x (40K - 30K))? I'd check it out myself but I can't log in at the moment.
Edit: added explanation of what corps might do with tax money
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Easy Target
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.25 14:56:00 -
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it is 10% of all of it.
So in your example they would get 10% of the full 40,000isk, not 10% of (40,000 - 30,000)
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:32:00 -
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Heinrich,
It's also very important to spend some time thinking about what sort of career path you are interested in, as that will largely determine the sorts of groups you'd like to be spending time with. As suggested earlier, spend some time on the recruitment forums, right here.
Keep an eye on local comms; in the more populated systems you can often find recruiters.
Ask around! If you fly by an older pilot, start a conversation, check out their employment history in their info. After a few days of randomly looking at the employment histories of those around you, you might find a few corps that sound interesting. Most corporations have a dedicated public comm that they use for recruitment and such. Join a few of those channels and get to know the members, etc.
If you're a serious EVE player, you will be spending a lot of time with these people, so it's important to find a group that you get along with! My two isk, I suggest you look for a smaller corporation. As a younger pilot, you might feel more involved with a smaller group and not just one of the faceless masses being ordered around by a large organization. You wont be in any epic fleet battles with a small corp, but you will probably find a group of people you can have a direct impact with and also, have some fun.
You could also consider joining up with an RP corp, if you are interested in that sort of thing. There are numerous dedicated RP corps/alliances, and RP types tend to generally be pretty dedicated to the game and can offer some good organization.
Anyway, hope this helps, and good luck on your search!
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Gadfly Hawke
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:30:00 -
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If you have a friend in a corp, join that one as a starter.
Don't take corp joining too seriously. It's very easy to move from one corp to another, so it's not like being married if you decide that you don't fit with your first one.
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Tunajuice
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:17:00 -
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90% of corps are total crap, I would stay in a newb corp until you understand the geopolitical situation in eve, and know for sure what kind of role you are looking to fill.
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Remedios Sonrisa
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.26 18:27:00 -
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Welcome to the wonderful game of Eve, Heinrich!
It is not easy to find a 'good' corp for new players since you are not really sure which path you would like to take. Hence, you should familiarize yourself with the game first and what it has to offer, be it a hardcore PvPer, mission runner, industrialist/trader, or miner, or of course, some or all of the above. Once you have an inkling of what you would like to do, then you should have a good idea of what type of corp/alliance you wish to join. Otherwise it could be a merry-go-round for awhile in joining, leaving, rinse & repeat.
As far as learning about the game, you are welcome to read and ask questions at our channel: Eve University. We have just about all sorts of members and ex-members who do everything you can do in Eve. ....
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xOm3gAx
Caldari Stain of Mind DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:52:00 -
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Figure out what you want to do be it mine, pvp, trade etc and then just check out the recuitment channels ingame or on the forums to find something suitable for you. If your looking for pvp i'd be happy to have you though we don't do much of anything else except the occasional npc mission whoring. ----------- "Mercinaries never die, we just go to hell to regroup." -xOm3gAx '99
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Micco Skywatcher
DROW Org
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:16:00 -
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As most of the folks above have said, you need to ask around and take your time. Look at what the corporation offers not only in terms of support, but also in the number of folks on line during your play hours, major activities, location, etc. If the corp has a public channel, go into it and talk to them. You'll find a lot of helpful people there in most cases.
CEO and Team Lead DROW EVE
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Kay Brack
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:43:00 -
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Check the founder's employment history also. There are a bunch out there that found and close corps on a regular basis probably after they have ripped off all they can in that corp.
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Nachshon
Caldari Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:00:00 -
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For starters, look for a corp with: A low tax rate (<5%) "New player friendly" More than 3 current members
You could get lucky like I did - my first corp gave me a 2 million ISK grant, no strings attached.
I wouldn't recommend my current corp, Gradient, as we are RP-heavy.
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Fuzzy Kismet
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:50:00 -
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Decide what you want to do in-game, and join a group that will help you further that goal. If you don't know what you want to do yet, that's your first goal =)
I started out as a miner, but when the rats kept killing my ships, I became a ratter. As it turns out, ratting isn't very profitable in highsec, so I went to lowsec and got killed a few times. I lived in lowsec for quite a while, but eventually went back to highsec when the pirates came en masse, and started doing missions. Missions are relatively profitable, but extremely boring. Now I'm considering going back to mining.
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Phred Jonz
Caldari Aegis Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:35:00 -
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I understand why people say to avoid corps with high tax rates, but I think a better way to look at it is to find out what that tax rate does for you.
For instance, in my current corp, we have a high tax rate, but we also build our own ships and provide those to the corp members. For me, it's a lot cheaper to let the corp build my Drake and all I have to worry about is insurance. Makes it less painful when I find myself ganked, too!
Honestly, when I was originally looking for a corp, I looked for the people with the goofiest names I could find and figured I'd join them. My reasoning was they would have a sense of humor and I was looking for that more than anything. I wasn't disappointed.
No matter what, good luck in finding what you're looking for. A great corp can make the game for you and a poor corp can make the game unpleasant for you. I figure the more people happy with their corps, the more people will play the game and make a richer Eve for all of us.
Cheers,
PJ
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Ben Derindar
KelBen Productions
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:10:00 -
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Avoid corps that recruit too openly, for example any corp that advertises with anchored containers, or those who spam the local of any busy system.
Corps that try to appeal to everybody have a high turnover rate at best, and are easily infiltrated by their enemies at worst.
/Ben
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