Shoot them in the face when they decloak. Camper removed. Great way to counter your problem.

Would be great. ....if they could be scanned down.
Usually they are in a deep safe cloacking up.

No

Been discussed before and wrong thread.

The counter is already present. You can jump out of system to another.

Cloaky camping exists already as a direct counter to your local channel New Eden wide intelligence tool.

Also before you unsub.

Can I has your stuff and sp?

1k dollars yea you can

I'm new to the forum. Yeah I'll just jump into a system with another cloaky camper in it.

I'm pretty sure selling in-game items for IRL money is against the EULA. Should I report this offense?

Then I suggest you do your homework before repeating a list of the same old flawed arguments that are going nowhere. Unless local channel is changed you will get no change to cloaking and there are reasons even then why it should not be changed.

Your right to do something in space is only by accepting that there is a risk your ship might be exploded. It is up to you to ensure that does not happen by the use of intelligence, fitting, piloting, backup, location, tactics, etc...

I'm messing with you. I won't quit eve or sell sp. It's just wasting my money when some pos camps and makes it where I won't play. Cause I don't want to lose my ships.

Oh... OOOH... You were messing with me? Damn, I totally believed you there for a second. I'm such a goof sometimes. Hyhy...

And in this weak the troll strikes back!

There needs to be a counter to cloaky campers. Like fuel required to cloak. Really tired of not being able to play eve cause a camping cloacker. Please come up with a counter to this problem. Its very easy to forget to pay a sub when I can't play the game.

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.

Not even sure who you are referring to here. Is it you or me that is a troll? And if I'm the troll, are you then the weak? I mean, it does make sense, considering you are afraid of AFK cloakies.

But anyway, you got me gooooooood brah. Like reeaaaaaal gooooooood.

I'm not afraid of cloaky campers id just rather not end up on the kill board and losing my money makers. There needs to be a counter just like there's a counter for the rest of the ships in the game.

So says a player who operates in cheap ships only, go on get in a Vargur or something like that and show us how real men do it against cloaky AFK campers.

So I enjoy solo frigate PvP, what does that have to do with anything? Yes, it is so much more manly to whore on code suicide ganks... Uuuuuuuu... So pro... So much wow... Teach me your ways master.

On a more serious note, I have done quite some ratting in lowsec for tags and encountered my share of cloaky cynoes. Do you want to know how I manage not to get caught? I fly fast ships and just don't get tackled. It's pretty easy...

But yes, it is even easier to come to the forums and whine.

Until you go use a Vargur to do stuff in low sec you are just a wannabe whiner trying to talk big on the forums, pathetic...

Why a Vargur in particular? How about a Revenant?

I'm sorry my kb is not as pro as yours. I'll immediately jump into some big ship and whore on some CODE gankers. I simply cannot live without your respect.

In fact lets ask you something very direct, why are you who does the most interesting in your face PvP in the game defending the most lazy PvP in the game, the irony is stunning.

I'm actually pretty indifferent towards ganking. But let me guess, you are one of those AG guys?

The reason why I even mentioned it, was because you started comparing e-peens, obviously thrashing my KB just because, in your eyes, my kb containing only cheap ships can only be trash (not that my kb is great, but who gives a damn about kb... Oh wait, you do). So given your big words, I figured I'd see an AMAZING kb. And truly... whoring on concord kills is AMAZING!!!

to make it short:

- Flag in local as afk is ok and guess it helps you nullbears
- fuel is a very bad idea for us wormholers...

Actually I did not trash your KB, all I did was point out the difference between you and the OP in terms of ships you put at risk, and you quite rightly pointed out being able to get out fast as important. Your KB is fine and you play in what I found as a fun arena, which can be ruined by blobbing in combat recons. Old players do have multiple accounts you know and I have done what you are doing, just not on this character and yes this character has done AG stuff, which is more challenging then ganking by the way.

You see you could only really get into his shoes if you were operating in a Vargur or something like that.

But what I find interesting is you who does the most fun in your face PvP defending lazy people who plonk a toon into space, then check the screen while playing other games then sees something active logs on stuff and kills it execution style,.

What you do is fun fast and gives a hell of a rush, did I knock what you did or your killboard, I simply pointed out that until you put serious assets at risk against this type of thing you really are whining about someone whining.

See, if I actually would fly around in expensive ships. Then I would understand or at least research how to use them efficiently. Tag ratting is really not that efficient using a Vargur, when it can be done in a 10M Thrasher. But let's say, I was doing lvl4s in lowsec. I'm pretty sure you could use a Vargur for that. So if I use my dscan properly, I would never be caught doing a mission site, since people get decloaked when they have to use the acceleration gate. And moving between systems is really not where a cloaky afk'er would pose a threat.

So how about ratting and doing anomalies in nullsec? Yes, here a cloaky poses a slightly bigger threat. I really don't know what fitting is needed so don't know how mobile these ships are, but I for sure would have some backup ready. Otherwise, I could research the cheapest options that can rat in null and just accept the risk as an additional cost. Those are the things, I know I would consider. But I'm sure that there are some material on the net, since I know people say that ratting in null can be done rather safely, even with the "big" threat of afk cloakers.

So yes, you could consider this as whining. I whine about people coming to the forums and spamming about none-issues.

You say this is lazy PvP, but one could argue that ratting is equally lazy PvE. From what I gather, it does not really require much involvement either. Also, if someone is truly AFK and cloaked, then they pose no threat at all by definition. You cannot lock and shoot someone, if you are not at the keyboard. The reason AFK cloakers are even an issue, is because people are too risk-averse and get easily spooked. Or are not willing to adapt and come to the forums to whine instead.

There needs to be a counter to cloaky campers. Like fuel required to cloak. Really tired of not being able to play eve cause a camping cloacker. Please come up with a counter to this problem. Its very easy to forget to pay a sub when I can't play the game.