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Star Slinger
Offslaught Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2016.05.20 04:34:28 -
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If you have multiple citadels in wspace , and one gets destroyed, will your stuff get transferred to the other, or will still just drop? |
Nerapa
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2016.05.20 14:50:34 -
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Star Slinger wrote:If you have multiple citadels in wspace , and one gets destroyed, will your stuff get transferred to the other, or will still just drop?
It drops. Like a hot potato!
TDSIN C5/C5 Recruiting
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Eva Ambrosa
Bros Before Holes The Devils' Rejects
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Posted - 2016.05.24 21:12:44 -
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But... individual pilots can transfer all their ships and all their modules/loot themselves. Having multiple citadels def makes it safer.
Imagine you have 7, and you just keep moving your **** around from 1 citadel to another. The evicting group would have to dedicate over a week to trying to get you out of that hole with 24 hour hole control... ******* miserable. |
Maker Atavuli
Core Intel
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Posted - 2016.06.03 01:16:10 -
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Eva Ambrosa wrote:But... individual pilots can transfer all their ships and all their modules/loot themselves. Having multiple citadels def makes it safer.
Imagine you have 7, and you just keep moving your **** around from 1 citadel to another. The evicting group would have to dedicate over a week to trying to get you out of that hole with 24 hour hole control... ******* miserable.
We are looking into a new hole (no pun intended) and this has come up as a viable defense. The current iteration of citadels are so weak vs sub-caps spamming the things seems to be the way to go. We were going to start with 4.
I am NOT crazy they made me take my medication this morning!
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Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
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Posted - 2016.06.06 06:41:59 -
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Maker Atavuli wrote:Eva Ambrosa wrote:But... individual pilots can transfer all their ships and all their modules/loot themselves. Having multiple citadels def makes it safer.
Imagine you have 7, and you just keep moving your **** around from 1 citadel to another. The evicting group would have to dedicate over a week to trying to get you out of that hole with 24 hour hole control... ******* miserable. We are looking into a new hole (no pun intended) and this has come up as a viable defense. The current iteration of citadels are so weak vs sub-caps spamming the things seems to be the way to go. We were going to start with 4.
Sounds awesome, then they can pop 4 citadel's for the price of one invasion! |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
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Posted - 2016.06.06 11:41:34 -
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That's if the residents are dumb enough to make them have the same vulnerability timer. |
GetSome Brain
Valor's Vanguard
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Posted - 2016.06.22 23:08:24 -
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You can set up multiple citadels but if your corp is only active during specific times or your part of a small corp itGÇÖs still going to be easy to evict you. Another larger corp just needs to set up their own citadel in your system. You are now forced to fight on their terms and during the time period they are most active. If you are unsuccessfully in destroying their citadel during that first 15 minute window you have essential lost your hole. You will likely have less than 24 hours to prepare, organize and stage a defense. Before citadels this could be prevented by anchoring small towers at each moon. Once the large corp has their own citadel set up all they have to do is run your sites and gank your ships, you will leave soon enough.
In my opinion the best strategy for small corps right now is either join a larger corp or be prepared to leave your hole when attacked. Keep your expensive modules and valuables (Sleeper Loot) logged off at a safe in a blockade runner. This way if you log on and find another citadel in your hole you can cut your losses and just leave with enough isk to set up somewhere else.
After citadels the ability to control a hole increases exponentially with numbers. This was always the case but itGÇÖs more pronounced now. ItGÇÖs easier to evict smaller corps but harder to evict larger corps. |
Amthala
Un.Reasonable
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Posted - 2016.06.22 23:37:46 -
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This of it this way: It's exactly the same as a POS except you can now VERY easily log off all your loot and trash everything else so that attackers get nothing.
Look, i get it, shooting citadels is so hot right now but it will stop once people get over the newness factor. |
GetSome Brain
Valor's Vanguard
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Posted - 2016.06.23 00:19:38 -
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Amthala wrote:This of it this way: It's exactly the same as a POS except you can now VERY easily log off all your loot and trash everything else so that attackers get nothing.
Look, i get it, shooting citadels is so hot right now but it will stop once people get over the newness factor.
Your right, its the same as a POS but it's bit easier for a larger corp to set up a base in your hole. If they set up a POS in your system you can attempt to attack it when they're not active. If it's a citadel you are force to fight on their terms. But honestly who cares.
The point is don't invest in a lot of citadels in an effort to increase your ability to defend your hole. Regardless if you have 2 or 10 citadels its going to be just as easy for a larger corp to camp your hole and force you out if they want. If anything multiple citadels will just make you a more attractive target.
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
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Posted - 2016.06.23 10:43:58 -
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Above advice is terrible, the more time you have the more time you get to fight back, get help etc. Nobody wants to siege for longer than they need to.
If having an extra astrahus buys you 4 days more time and you have 10 of them it's a very unattractive hole to siege. |
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GetSome Brain
Valor's Vanguard
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Posted - 2016.06.23 14:39:59 -
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There are diminishing returns once your assets are save for a week. You vulnerability timers are per week. So regardless if you have 2 citadels or 1000 citadels a larger corp can evict you in a week. An additional citadel does not mean you have an extra 4 days of safety as you imply.
2 (3 if you want to be really safe) gives you a week of safety. This is enough to deter most corps. If it doesn't deter your attacker then that corp has the resources and ability to control your hole and camp you for a week. During that week they will have the opportunity to destroy all your citadels. If you can't defend your first citadel youGÇÖre likely not going to be able to defend your 1000th either.
If you have larger numbers then multiple citadels start to make more sense. If you set multiple citadels to have their timers during the same time period, you force your attacker to split their forces and attack you on multiple fronts where you have the advantage of a citadel.
Don't want to turn this thread into a crazy debate though. Those are my thoughts youGÇÖre free to have your own.
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GetSome Brain
Valor's Vanguard
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Posted - 2016.06.23 14:59:40 -
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Sorry double post |
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