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Minigin Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.27 08:46:00 - [211] Originally by: Aille Pluthrak Edited by: Aille Pluthrak on 27/02/2007 03:52:42 Originally by: Minigin Originally by: Aille Pluthrak Because I don't fly T2 ships I don't take risks? That is the dumbest friggen reason for dumping crap on th What is that saying I always read on the forums? Oh right, it's "Only fly what you can afford to lose". Are you telling me I should pons of isk in guns and modules, then fly it out and get it blown up and have no isk left to replace it? If that is the case then I don't give a rats ass about ever having your respect in this game. The only people that have given me crap in Empire are jackasses who come in from 0.0 expecting an easy ride through Empire cause they don't know what the hell they are doing. The ones I respect are the so-called carebears who at least learn from their mistakes. A majority of the so-called carebears in Empire that I have helped blast into space dust have not smacked us in local. The Alliance carebears in Empire should leave these broke ** 0.0 Alliances because they can't even tell em how to set up the overview to help avoid the Privateers. I have no respect for a majority of the 0.0 Alliances due to the fact that they can't even be bothered to protect their Empire brothers and sisters. The above are my opinions and has nothing to do with the Privateer Alliance. you fool you just proved everything i was arguing... 1. you do gank empire noobs 2. you dont take risks and your proud of being so savvy 3. the majority of priavateers are noobs looking for quick isk 4. you have no honour and no want to be recognised as a proper pvper thus you lead me to conclude that you are not doing this because of the challenge... but because your a noob that wants to make a quick buck without risking anything more expencive than a destroyer. So what? Just because you don't like me or my style of getting isk in this game will not stop me from doing it. Far from it. Your rants in this thread are funny. Alliance holier then thou attitudes are down right knee slapping funny. Honor I could care less about. Honor doesn't buy ships to fly, or the mods on em, to blast Alliance people with. But what the heck is a "proper PvPer"? Is that the 1vs1 kind, or the walk 20 paces turn around and shot kind? By the way, I make more isk mission running then I do "ganking haulers". It's just more fun blowing up stuff that belongs to people then it is NPCs. I kind of like getting called "Empire *" (slang for cat) after blowing up an Alliance hauler going to market in Empire. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Destroyer? I see you have trouble when it comes to slamming someone. You need to do some research before you let loose off "facts". I usually fly a Celestis fitted with RSDs, the better to grief people, or a BC like the Brutix or Myrmidon. But I do find the Celestis more to my liking. I always imagine someone I have targeted getting very angry when he no longer can target anything. That is another thing that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Just in case you don't want to read all the above let me break it down for you here: 1. I don't care what anyone but the people I currently fly with think of me 2. Honor has no place in this game for me 3. I have never flown a destroyer in a PvP situation The above are my opinions and has nothing to do with the Privateer Alliance. do you even understand what we are arguing in this thread? that privateers is a challange? stop trying to make this about you not caring about honour because that has always been secondary to the argument about easy isk. i wouldnt even be **ed at you lot if you just came out and said "yeh i want the easy isk" ide be happy for you. but in this thread you clearly come out and say "its challanging" to justify your position to the gallaxy. well whatever your selling im not buying. youve got it easy and you know it as well as i do.
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:02:00 - [212] Originally by: Minigin Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Minigin you fool you just proved everything i was arguing... 1. you do gank empire noobs 2. you dont take risks and your proud of being so savvy 3. the majority of priavateers are noobs looking for quick isk 4. you have no honour and no want to be recognised as a proper pvper thus you lead me to conclude that you are not doing this because of the challenge... but because your a noob that wants to make a quick buck without risking anything more expencive than a destroyer. If you're so hardcore, such a 'leet pvper', risking it all in your faction fitted CNR, then instead of smacking on the forums, why don't you come to empire, sit on a gate somewhere near Amarr, and convo one of us to arrange a fight. But no, because we'd crush you utterly, and then you'd be out of pocket. And your Eve experience is only fun when you're cruising with the 200 man blob ganking 1 month old noob-corpers in 0.0 trying to make some isk to buy their first battlecruiser. I'm pretty sure that you're guilty of just about everything you've accused us of being throughout this thread. Prck. your a fool who has no idea what hes talking about. im an experiance solo pvper thats how i make my living in the game. i have on several occasions come to empire and sat on gates around jita requesting 1 v 1s from privateers. here is an example of the responce i got from one pilot not mentioning names "why would i 1 v 1 you i can shoot you anyway..." 10 seconds later there where 5 privateers flying around me. stupidly they agroed me before i agroed them and i jumped through unscathed. dck I think you must be the very definition of 'forum warrior'. I don't believe a word of what you said above. You're not anywhere on our kb so I suspect you've never even met one of us in space. --- Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
Minigin Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:06:00 - [213] Edited by: Minigin on 27/02/2007 09:06:31 Edited by: Minigin on 27/02/2007 09:03:43 Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Minigin Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Minigin you fool you just proved everything i was arguing... 1. you do gank empire noobs 2. you dont take risks and your proud of being so savvy 3. the majority of priavateers are noobs looking for quick isk 4. you have no honour and no want to be recognised as a proper pvper thus you lead me to conclude that you are not doing this because of the challenge... but because your a noob that wants to make a quick buck without risking anything more expencive than a destroyer. If you're so hardcore, such a 'leet pvper', risking it all in your faction fitted CNR, then instead of smacking on the forums, why don't you come to empire, sit on a gate somewhere near Amarr, and convo one of us to arrange a fight. But no, because we'd crush you utterly, and then you'd be out of pocket. And your Eve experience is only fun when you're cruising with the 200 man blob ganking 1 month old noob-corpers in 0.0 trying to make some isk to buy their first battlecruiser. I'm pretty sure that you're guilty of just about everything you've accused us of being throughout this thread. Prck. your a fool who has no idea what hes talking about. im an experiance solo pvper thats how i make my living in the game. i have on several occasions come to empire and sat on gates around jita requesting 1 v 1s from privateers. here is an example of the responce i got from one pilot not mentioning names "why would i 1 v 1 you i can shoot you anyway..." 10 seconds later there where 5 privateers flying around me. stupidly they agroed me before i agroed them and i jumped through unscathed. dck I think you must be the very definition of 'forum warrior'. I don't believe a word of what you said above. You're not anywhere on our kb so I suspect you've never even met one of us in space. you hear that kids? if im not on the privateers killboard i musnt have met one... well your partially right... your always **ing docked! edit: your crazy... everytime priv wardecs us i head to empire and look for you... so far its been a waste of time. further more who the ** are you to say "i dont believe you..." your the one who was caught red handed camping the jita 4-4 station then saying youde never done such a thing at the begining of the thread!
Ninon Lanclos Tempt Fate Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:09:00 - [214] Edited by: Ninon Lanclos on 27/02/2007 09:06:44 Looking at all the verbal shelling we get from the moral high ground, Privateers must have hit a nerve. I think the high-and-mighty 0.0 people are afraid that their serfs might recognize that there are other ways to play this game. That actually, there's the option of Freedom. Freedom from boring alliance politics. Freedom from mandatory corp ops. Freedom from being in an outblobbing lag-fest. Freedom from... you'll get the drift. If you choose to gank in Jita, you are free to do so. If you don't, it's also fine. Just have fun while playing Eve. Privateers really empowers its members. There are corps like Omniscient Order, Celestial Apocalypse and other honourable entities who actually come to empire and hunt us. And they're good at it. They put their money where their mouth is, and I don't see any whining from them. Just relax and feel the Love in space. [edit: spelling]
IcedBach Jr Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:14:00 - [215] you ppl are the scum of EVE and what makes this game unfortunatly lacking. Wardecs should be for ppl with smth to gain or loose in territory not lazy ass players who like to camp gates in empire where ppl should be able to move without risk and do market/industrial things. THere are definately enough .4 and lower systems for you scum to play in, but you seriously lack the guts to stay there. Praeludium to success http://www.rampage-eternal.net/sigs/type2/IcedBach%20jr.png Now that's a long one. Though, I'm afraid the limit is indeed 400 pixels wide. -ReverendM
Minigin Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:14:00 - [216] Originally by: Ninon Lanclos Edited by: Ninon Lanclos on 27/02/2007 09:06:44 Looking at all the verbal shelling we get from the moral high ground, Privateers must have hit a nerve. I think the high-and-mighty 0.0 people are afraid that their serfs might recognize that there are other ways to play this game. That actually, there's the option of Freedom. Freedom from boring alliance politics. Freedom from mandatory corp ops. Freedom from being in an outblobbing lag-fest. Freedom from... you'll get the drift. If you choose to gank in Jita, you are free to do so. If you don't, it's also fine. Just have fun while playing Eve. Privateers really empowers its members. There are corps like Omniscient Order, Celestial Apocalypse and other honourable entities who actually come to empire and hunt us. And they're good at it. They put their money where their mouth is, and I don't see any whining from them. Just relax and feel the Love in space. [edit: spelling] my verbal bombardment is out of amazment of the sheer stupidity of some! we have effectivly been arguing the same thing for 6 pages and some people are still posting "oh but we dont really care about morality" do i look like i give a flying **** either? i told you... if your in it for the isk... say so... but never try and justify your actions in privateers by saying your looking for a challange! DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? OR WILL I HAVE TO POST THE SAME THING AGAIN????
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:48:00 - [217] Originally by: dastommy79 Look there are some cool privaters, aka morfane. He doesnt dock up and he doesnt run from a fight. the rest of the privatters seem to be only interested in ganking haulers in empire. If u really want a good fight, then join one of the top ten alliances. Fight for something that is important to you and every kill you get means so much more. Ganking the young noobs is as difficut as hitting the side of a barn with a shotgun. The very point is that we do not want to be involved in politics. That we want to avoid the large fleet fights for regional control and such. These things are NOT important for us! Yes the noobs live in empire. Yes we will shoot haulers if we see them and YES, there's a lot of haulers in empire and yes there's a lot of war target haulers flying about even in war times. You can NOT blaim us for the mistakes your alliance mates make when they try to fly a hauler through empire while at war with Privateers. We even get the occational freighter. And yes... we shoot hostile freighters too!!! But what we also shoot is the gangs of combat ready ships that come our way, when we have a decent chance of matching them. It's only logical that we when flying in 4 intercepters don't choose to attack 10 command ships / battleships. It's only logical that we move out of the way for these if we can not arrange a joint gang with some alliance mates, as the 4 of us don't stand much of a chance against a combat ready force of 10 equal ships. But rest assured that the fights who are brought to us, that we as a corporation can handle, we will take. Due to the organization of the alliance, coordination between corporations are ill at best. Fight the corporations. Not the alliance, and you will get a more than decent fight!
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:50:00 - [218] Originally by: Franga Originally by: JMcClane And for the record... I did not call you a retard, and anyone else who feel like flaming, or name calling should go elsewhere... this is a discussions forum. Discuss!!! Discuss? You made a statement and then Flinx disagreed with you. Isn't that discussion? He has a differing view. Also - I've seen so many privateer members sitting out the front of Jita 4-4 it's silly. It's actually worse then fleet lag there. And you say that not every member of Privateer is dishonorable ... well, that might be true but unfortunately you are judged by what people see. And lets face it - it's Jita. A helleva lotta people see you (yes, YOU = Privateer) killing people before the screen loads. Well done! How brave and noble of you. How hard that must be! I salute you! As Flinx said ... The reason I responded to his post was the word retard!
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:53:00 - [219] Originally by: INZi Originally by: everyone rabble rabble! my gank is better then yours. give it a rest will ya p.s. You members of Privateers that are alts of any Alliance main are PATHETIC "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:57:00 - [220] Originally by: IcedBach Jr you ppl are the scum of EVE and what makes this game unfortunatly lacking. Wardecs should be for ppl with smth to gain or loose in territory not lazy ass players who like to camp gates in empire where ppl should be able to move without risk and do market/industrial things. THere are definately enough .4 and lower systems for you scum to play in, but you seriously lack the guts to stay there. Never thought I'd have to say this to a 0.0 alliance member and someone who's been in the game for some amount of time: THERE IS NO SAFE SPACE IN EVE! You want to be able to move in empire without risk? Sorry, you can't. Noone else can, so why should you be able to? It's amusing to see people like this coming down on n00bs complaining about gatecamps and wanting to Ctrl-Q to escape from your bubble, but at the same time, you complain about not being able to afk through empire. Tough ****. Deal with it or leave. /Ki Haven't got one yet? Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:58:00 - [221] Yesterday when our small gang passed some system, we met a few privateers in nano huginns, who mwded all the way to offgrid once our first pilot jumped to their system. For the record, thats the second time I've seen a privateer in space in the last month . ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:01:00 - [222] Originally by: Minigin Originally by: Ninon Lanclos Edited by: Ninon Lanclos on 27/02/2007 09:06:44 Looking at all the verbal shelling we get from the moral high ground, Privateers must have hit a nerve. I think the high-and-mighty 0.0 people are afraid that their serfs might recognize that there are other ways to play this game. That actually, there's the option of Freedom. Freedom from boring alliance politics. Freedom from mandatory corp ops. Freedom from being in an outblobbing lag-fest. Freedom from... you'll get the drift. If you choose to gank in Jita, you are free to do so. If you don't, it's also fine. Just have fun while playing Eve. Privateers really empowers its members. There are corps like Omniscient Order, Celestial Apocalypse and other honourable entities who actually come to empire and hunt us. And they're good at it. They put their money where their mouth is, and I don't see any whining from them. Just relax and feel the Love in space. [edit: spelling] my verbal bombardment is out of amazment of the sheer stupidity of some! we have effectivly been arguing the same thing for 6 pages and some people are still posting "oh but we dont really care about morality" do i look like i give a flying **** either? i told you... if your in it for the isk... say so... but never try and justify your actions in privateers by saying your looking for a challange! DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR? OR WILL I HAVE TO POST THE SAME THING AGAIN???? Mercenary Coalition. 0utbreak. Celestial Apoc. Omniscent order, are entitites that have actively hunted us in empire. Don't tell me that they are not challenging opponents! We've taken losses and made kills against Omni (as a corporation). Our size in numbers compared to theirs and their profound love to nanoships (as so many others) have however rendered us unable to find ourselves that many decent fights. But we take the bait every now and then, well knowing about the backup. For the sheer fun and CHALLENGE of it... Can we kill the bait before the backup-gank squad arrives! There's plenty of challenges out there. Ours do not involve 100's of billion isk invested in super capitals and outposts. It doesn't involve joint mining ops and ratting. It doesn't involve manufacturing and buying minerals. Forgive us for that, but it doesn't rock my boat. I've tried it! Didn't like it! Another example, Myriad Alliance which was recently living in Tama.... We enter local in numbers from 2-5 ... There's 20-30 Myriad war targets in local. Get to empire for one day... follow me around, and take a peek at what we're doing! You'd be surprised... (You could choose to follow many corporations... basically the ones mentioned by Ryysa in an earlier post)
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:03:00 - [223] Originally by: Breed Love Yesterday when our small gang passed some system, we met a few privateers in nano huginns, who mwded all the way to offgrid once our first pilot jumped to their system. For the record, thats the second time I've seen a privateer in space in the last month . By this statement, are we to generalize that all privateers mwd off grid, or that all privateers fly nano huginns? /Ki Haven't got one yet? Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"!
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:04:00 - [224] Edited by: Breed Love on 27/02/2007 10:02:10 Originally by: Ki An By this statement, are we to generalize that all privateers mwd off grid, or that all privateers fly nano huginns? /Ki thats correct, you are all the same, just like all pvp in 0.0 is blob warfare. edit: added to that, you dock alot too, espec when anything but a hauler enters the system. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:07:00 - [225] Originally by: IcedBach Jr you ppl are the scum of EVE and what makes this game unfortunatly lacking. Wardecs should be for ppl with smth to gain or loose in territory not lazy ass players who like to camp gates in empire where ppl should be able to move without risk and do market/industrial things. THere are definately enough .4 and lower systems for you scum to play in, but you seriously lack the guts to stay there. So you're saying that war declarations should be limited to an extend where only just cause (as you interpret it) is a valid reason for a war dec. I do believe that you are free to war declare whomever you feel like! If not is it valid for someone to declare on another because they stole something. Nope... It's all about territory! Boy are you wrong on that one!
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:11:00 - [226] Originally by: Breed Love thats correct, you are all the same, just like all pvp in 0.0 is blob warfare. edit: added to that, you dock alot too, espec when anything but a hauler enters the system. Me? I'm no privateer. We are at war (again). Doesn't mean I spout off meaningless generalizations and utter crap about them. They are good opponents who have found a niche in the game. You don't like them because you like to afk through empire. And if you try to insinuate that I am the one generalizing in this thread you'd better read it through another time. And, finally, yes, I dock every time I am about to log, or use the market, or refit my ship or do any of the other activities that requires one to dock. Sorry if you can't do that in 0.0, but that's the price you pay for being "l33t" I suppose. /Ki Haven't got one yet? Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"!
Gar Ddhen Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:19:00 - [227] There are some seriously good pilots in the Privateers, some crap ones as well. Same as pretty much all the Alliances. Station camping in Jita is no real different to station camping in 0.0 except for the greater numbers, people from damned near every Alliance gank newbs coming through gates, and last time I looked declining an engagement involving massively disparate forces was a legitimate tactic. They (The Privateers) found a niche, they play it, and a lot of them will enjoy it even if they are hunted after the war. Get off your damned high horses and play the game in the spirit it deserves rather than using fuzzy logic and generalisations to smear every player in an organisation with whatever paintbrush you happened to have jumped on the bandwagon to get. Starting to get sick of the Privateers are cowards, BoB are cheats etc threads now, they are all rather lame and more than mildly boring.
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:19:00 - [228] Originally by: Breed Love Edited by: Breed Love on 27/02/2007 10:02:10 Originally by: Ki An By this statement, are we to generalize that all privateers mwd off grid, or that all privateers fly nano huginns? /Ki thats correct, you are all the same, just like all pvp in 0.0 is blob warfare. edit: added to that, you dock alot too, espec when anything but a hauler enters the system. I can't link to our killboard but I could explain to you what I see when I look up Fatal Aliance on it. Monday 26th -> No industrial ships destroyed, only fighting ships Sunday 25th -> 1 industrial destroyed, 10+ combat ships Saturday 24th -> No industrials, 10+ only combat ships Friday 23th -> No industrials, only combat.... So every now and then your alliance do seem to find us! And yes we shoot shuttles and noob ships as well... Just yestederday, we got a noob ship which dropped a Dread Guristas Heavy Launcher. Three other faction items destroyed. If your empire 'noobs' can afford gear like that. I see no reason why they can't fit a fighting ship and come fight us instead! But I guess empire may be full of that. Players who are not willing to fight for their alliance, players who are not willing to stand their ground!
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.02.27 10:54:00 - [229] is this your killboard ?Linkage
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:03:00 - [230] Originally by: Breed Love Yesterday when our small gang passed some system, we met a few privateers in nano huginns, who mwded all the way to offgrid once our first pilot jumped to their system. For the record, thats the second time I've seen a privateer in space in the last month . Breed, they are out there and they have some good corps in them. Corps join and leave em all the time, some of these corps are great and some are not so great. Some of em will bring it and some of em will not. They are PIRATES. We have to live with em. Just bear in mind that they are not an alliance in the traditional meaning of the word, in this case they are more of a "marrige of convenience" Lets just hope for some good fights all round. F4T4L - Recruitment
Minigin Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:13:00 - [231] 'Clane ide like to take you up on that offer. could you please drop me a line ingame. ill hang with you guys for a little and see if my opinion changes any.
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:29:00 - [232] Originally by: Noluck Ned Originally by: Breed Love Yesterday when our small gang passed some system, we met a few privateers in nano huginns, who mwded all the way to offgrid once our first pilot jumped to their system. For the record, thats the second time I've seen a privateer in space in the last month . Breed, they are out there and they have some good corps in them. Corps join and leave em all the time, some of these corps are great and some are not so great. Some of em will bring it and some of em will not. They are PIRATES. We have to live with em. Just bear in mind that they are not an alliance in the traditional meaning of the word, in this case they are more of a "marrige of convenience" Lets just hope for some good fights all round. Couldn't have said it better myself :)
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:30:00 - [233] Originally by: Minigin 'Clane ide like to take you up on that offer. could you please drop me a line ingame. ill hang with you guys for a little and see if my opinion changes any. Provided we are not at war, sure thing! :)
babylonstew Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:35:00 - [234] Originally by: Minigin 'Clane ide like to take you up on that offer. could you please drop me a line ingame. ill hang with you guys for a little and see if my opinion changes any. fair play to this guy ------ snip please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo Originally by: High Sierra note to self - don't ever provide ANYONE with quoteable material EVER AGAIN.
Iphiclus Rogen's Heroes Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:40:00 - [235] Originally by: JMcClane Originally by: Sentar Manar #Translation# #1: We like to PVP. #2: We don't like fair fights. #3: We like money. #4: We don't like working. #5: We don't want to risk anything. #6: We do want your stuff. #Solution# We will stay in Empire, Wardeck you and let your money flow to us how crafty of us. #Problem# When the Wars over the Alliances are going to come to empire to stomp you. #Response to Problem# It's not a problem. It's what we want. A challenge... If you find docking a challenge you really do have a problem!
Patient 4127 Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:48:00 - [236] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh TRANSLATION: 0.0 is too hard, we rather war dec everyone and gank their empire carebears. This makes sense since many 0.0 entities don't run fleets in empire and that usually gives us good gank odds. I don't have the computer to really camp 4-4, but I've certainly used Jita as a base of operations. With 30-50 wardecs active, how many hostiles do you think are in empire? From my experience, there's often a hostile wartarget in EVERY system you go into. In Jita, you have to practically audit local before undocking. Normal rates are 30 wartargets, ranging from newbie alts to haulers all the way up to tech 2 fitted hyperions and nasty faction ships. I think it's awesome. Half the fun in EVE is the risk factor. Flying around empire with half the universe wanting to gank your ass if they get a chance is awesome fun. I've done a couple of more-organised gangs (15-20 with proper fleet command) with mixed Privateers corps and frankly I found even that boring and terribly static. 0.0 would frankly be pointless. I'd run into a bubble camp and die, or intel channels would have me tagged immediately. Some of the more skilled people love going hunting there though. And as for low-sec, well good luck finding a fight half the time, the population just sucks. Empire on the other hand, especially the main trade lanes, is what I use for my EVE "Instant Action" mode. Targets everywhere, and lots of people that want to kill you. Personally I've yet to make a hauler kill at all, and the only newbie ship kill from memory was Goonfleet, so basically one of their front-line heavy assault troops ;) I die a lot, but it's an awesome way to learn PvP if you can afford the losses. And it's a constant adrenalin rush. I'm hooked.
Ventosus x13 Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:58:00 - [237] Originally by: USN CVN72 I convoed an x13 dude tonight wont mention names and arranged a 1v1 and after 30 seconds it became 7 v 1 but i put all wcs on knowing that it wouldnt be a fair fight and i warped off. As for your 1v1 offer your all full of ----. Dude, We have killed you 10+ times last year. We know you hate us. Fair enough. But is this really needed? You really hate us this much? However, if this should be the thruth, give me some proof and ill handle it with the particular x13 pilot. I've sent you an ingame mail, requesting information. until then i consider this propaganda. ............... I will win Eve
Chuskarl's Grandfather Minmatar Chuskarl's Family Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 16:26:00 - [238] All this "Why don't you come to 0.0 and fight like real men" is everytime an attempt to my health. I mean that it makes me laugh so hard that my heart may stop. You all "0.0 big boys" are unable to do anything else than repeating, like a broken record, "Come to 0.0 and you shall see". Are you the big boys? Are you the more experienced, better organized, more honourable and with uber skills players? Excellent. You can travel to empire and incinerate us all just snapping your fingers. After all we are paying billions of war bills to make empire as close to 0.0 for you. You can shoot us wherever you want, you can camp all the gates you want, you can podkill us over and over again. Just like in your beloved 0.0. And since, by your own words, Empire is a place for noobs, pro players like you should easily rule here. You could also protect your haulers and your trainee with a small effort. But it doesn't happen. All that is happening is you barking "come to 0.0". Let me suspect that the few differences between a warring empire and 0.0 just move the balance of the question to something you can't handle: - in empire you cannot launch bubbles. I understand that this imply the need for you to have some good skill at locking ships quickly enough and/or chasing them, maybe including the capability of using a scanner, but its part of the game as well. A part you can cope with by learning to play it. - in empire you cannot get the help that would come from some hundreds of players not part of your alliance but friendly with you, unless they are at war with Privateers as well. I understand this means that instead of having your 100 ships fleet plus your friends' 100 ships fleet, you are forced to be on your own with 100 ships only. But, again, its part of the game. A part you can cope with by getting your friends declaring on Privateers. -in empire you cannot use capital ships, unless you are in 0.4 or lower. It's a rule we have to respect too. But since i am sure that your greater experience, your better organization and your uber skills are no match for us, why dont you just jump on a smaller ships and give us hell? -in empire you cannot rely on the several camps established at gates along the way down to the systems where you hide, that would hit any fleet coming to you during the trip. You cannot also rely on warnings that people living in your space may raise to alert you of a fleet approaching, giving you time to dock. So if your opinion is that "0.0 life is for real men", my opinion is that "0.0 life is for real carebears" who love to hide as far as they can from empire, farming npc 24/7, sheltered by a long way to reach them and a number of camps along the way to protect and alert them of any hostile incoming. If empire is such a noobish place, come kill the noobs. We are paying for it after all.
Sidrat Flush Caldari Galaxy Punks Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 16:36:00 - [239] We know what Privateers do. We should know where you're doing it. I'm sure our alliance has been ganked...sorry caught at the gates by you guys. If we can all agree that every corp or alliance member knows how Privateers works, but still gets caught by them, would it be normal to assume that senior people aren't teaching their new recruits what to do/how to fit out a ship. Or does an individuals preference on never doing any pvp and just roam around in a hauler or ratting ship, while enjoying an alliance ticker and everything that comes with it, just a leech? I've been playing eve for about three years on and off. I've never really got into pvp. Now I'm part of an alliance. I still don't like pvp because mainly it's just too boring. I have of course learnt the basics and still learning. It is my obligation to prevent asset loss, personal, corp or alliance - as much as possible. With warp to zero and a pilot that's fully awake, empire travel is pretty fun. Especially in a throwaway frigate. Do I agree with what the Privateers do? I don't have to. They play their way, I play it my way. It's all good if we can say we're all having a good time. If haulers get ganked one too many times, they need to be organising and asking for escorts more loudly in future. Just my personal opinion and I hope not to have tread on too many toes. Life is about memories the more the better. Looking for CCP to improve availability of their GTC's, for non card carriers!
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.02.27 16:50:00 - [240] Interesting, what would happen if all the alliances who were wardecced by Privateer went to empire to " bring it "! What would happen then I`m wondering? Would Privateer alliance stand and fight, or dissolve away? ( legitimate question btw no flames please :D )

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