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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: sorilin on 27/02/2007 09:00:18 i wanna ask howcome a known macro ratter can keep doing what he does even thou there is like 20 petition about the ratter. the first petition went in like 1 month ago and has been done many times since.. the ratter is still in the system 24/7, nothing has been done towards him.
what he does is quite simple.. hes macro is made so that when u enter the system he warps to a ss and cloack, when u leave he goes out again to rat.. atm i have an alt in the system 24/7 to prevent him from uncloacking in the hope he leaves the system. u cant catch a cloacker as he cant be proped out. and so fare i havent seen any action towards him from ccp.
and no i dont feel like the need of petitioning him again as i personaly have done so 7 times, and i know others have done so aswell..
if u ccp dont want to do anything against him then plz atleast make it posible with high skiled propers to locate the scum.. I am the borg! |
pshepherd
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:05:00 -
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A "macro" can't tell when you enter system so he can cloak. And it isn't illigal to play several accounts of eve at the same time
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:11:00 -
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hahaha.. yes it can.. its quite simple. u just need the right tools.
some macroes can be programmed so that it does this. i could prove it if it wasent breaking the eula.
i might give it ago on sisi and make a vid of it.. there it is hardly breaking the eula ? I am the borg! |
ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd A "macro" can't tell when you enter system so he can cloak. And it isn't illigal to play several accounts of eve at the same time
Of course a macro can tell this.
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Roy Focker
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:28:00 -
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I don't think this is about trust or whatnot... It's a simple issue of resources and evidence.
I can ask my whole alliance to petition you. Would that make my petition any more legitimate than one petition? I don't think so.
It all depends on evidence and what the logs available to Game Masters show. You have to trust their judgment on that. We don't have access to the logs and can't really see what's happening.
On that note, don't give up on petitioning... if you really think CCP is being unfair then remember Luke 18:1-8
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:40:00 -
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ye or start doing it myself as theres tons of isk to get this way. all i see is nothing happends by doing it so why not.. I am the borg! |
Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:44:00 -
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Here is a plan for you. It may or may not work but its worth a shot.
Try using a fast scout to determine the last belt he was in. Have a dictor in next system on the gate waiting to jump. Leave the system and give it a window to resume....in goes the dictor straight to the belt he was last in....well its not a sure thing and it depends on whether there is a pattern to the order he does the belts in.
Hmm on second thoughts: a ceptor or two with lots of points will be better, the macro will undoubtable initiate warp automatically when someone enters so a bubble wont catch him.
just a thought...
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nim TsuNim
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:50:00 -
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Wouldn't a full covert ops ship be able to track him down? I mean, if the cloak is maintained and the overview does not show the cloaked ship then perhaps his macro will not catch it?
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Anton Kamikaze
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Anton Kamikaze on 27/02/2007 09:49:59
Originally by: sorilin ye or start doing it myself as theres tons of isk to get this way. all i see is nothing happends by doing it so why not..
The farmers are not too afraid to get their account banned. I love my account, so even if people would tell me that CCP doesn't care in 99,9% of the cases, I wouldn't risk my account. Looks like the macroer/farmer 'wins' in that game, because he just plays for RL profit.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 27/02/2007 09:52:05
Originally by: nim TsuNim Wouldn't a full covert ops ship be able to track him down? I mean, if the cloak is maintained and the overview does not show the cloaked ship then perhaps his macro will not catch it?
The issue is not when the macro sees you in overview. You cannot cloak if you are being targeted by a rat or player. The issue is when you come into a system's local window, he autowarps out.
Only thing you can do is log in system at a belt and hope to catch them that way. Log off at say, bottom belt, make a cup of tea, then log back in and try to catch him before he warps off --
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.27 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 27/02/2007 09:52:42 Wonder, how long they stay on safe. Maybe bubble the belts, leave system, wait a minute, go in and kill. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.' |
nim TsuNim
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.27 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron The issue is when you come into a system's local window, he autowarps out.
Only thing you can do is log in system at a belt and hope to catch them that way. Log off at say, bottom belt, make a cup of tea, then log back in and try to catch him before he warps off
Right...pretty new to all this (back after long leave) so I didn't realise covert ops appeared in local.
Seems like a bunch of players, one in each belt, using your log in tactic might be a good way to go.
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arjun
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.27 10:07:00 -
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place a warp bubble ion every belt, leave system, return.
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Eilene Fernite
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Posted - 2007.02.27 11:04:00 -
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What makes you so sure he's a macro?
From what you say, he can just as well be a smart player that just warps to a safe and cloaks the minute he sees someone entering local. In fact, that's the more likely option, as your petitions have obviously not lead to him being banned.
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Caletha Reborn
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Posted - 2007.02.27 11:16:00 -
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Loads of my corp usually get into the POS within seconds after an enemy enters local (several of us have never lost a ratting ship yet, knocks on wood). And a few of them have been ratting miles away (we live in drone space, they needed to fix their sec so had to go elsewhere), and they rat with a cloak on.
I guess they use macro's too?
How do you know they macro?
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 11:51:00 -
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cause he does it 24/7 ? cause the caracter is always online ? cause cause cause.. theres many ways of spotting a ratter macro. ill use the buble idea however. and yes i think many of u too also uses macro.. hell alot do it so why not..
alot of LAME people out there. I am the borg! |
Plasticine Perfection
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: sorilin cause he does it 24/7 ? cause the caracter is always online ? cause cause cause.. theres many ways of spotting a ratter macro. ill use the buble idea however. and yes i think many of u too also uses macro.. hell alot do it so why not..
alot of LAME people out there.
From what you've said there's absolutley *ZERO* evidence that this person is a macro user.
Sounds to me like it's just someone who plays a lot and who has, sensibly, got used to watching local very closely, and who you've just not been clever or fast or skilled enough to catch.
And so you petition them for being a "macroer" when in fact it's just that you guys suck.
And you're calling other people lame?
How about you attempt to actually describe why you think this person is a macro user instead of just being better than you are at EVE?
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:19:00 -
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another alt ?
no no its not a macro ratter... who cares.. i shouldent come here raise question about such isues... there is no such thing as macro ratters and macro miners.. its all an ilusion.
m/me pulls out the 7 acounts and fire up EZmacro with the ebay eve-script
no no im not using a macro... im just a very dedicated player. I am the borg! |
Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:20:00 -
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If he is ratting, he is leaving wrecks....Shoot them. Get some good covert ops pilots there...Watch what way he heads off and follow....Make his life complete hell, 23/7 and he will move on.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:20:00 -
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ps. sorry for using my main, since u flame me for being poor. ill use an alt like all the other lamers next time. I am the borg! |
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot If he is ratting, he is leaving wrecks....Shoot them. Get some good covert ops pilots there...Watch what way he heads off and follow....Make his life complete hell, 23/7 and he will move on.
is tried.. he stay cloacked and never logs out. so u cant really prope him, but the warb bubles in each belt might work, and i will try that when i get home from work.. 17 belts 17 L warb bubles should do... I am the borg! |
Roshan longshot
Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: sorilin cause he does it 24/7 ? cause the caracter is always online ? cause cause cause.. theres many ways of spotting a ratter macro. ill use the buble idea however. and yes i think many of u too also uses macro.. hell alot do it so why not..
alot of LAME people out there.
At the most he is shareing an account 23/7 not 24/7 And sense system downtime will auto disconect him, sombody is there to relog on. No dought there is a macro invovled, maybe account shareing.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
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Plasticine Perfection
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: sorilin another alt ?
no no its not a macro ratter... who cares.. i shouldent come here raise question about such isues... there is no such thing as macro ratters and macro miners.. its all an ilusion.
m/me pulls out the 7 acounts and fire up EZmacro with the ebay eve-script
no no im not using a macro... im just a very dedicated player.
Yeah, this is a forum alt, because my main is in a corp/alliance that frowns upon members posting on these forums for various reasons, so I honour that and post with this character.
You have ranted (vaguely incoherently) for a few posts here, but at no point have you actually clearly described WHY exactly you are so convinced that this person you're trying to hunt down is a macro user.
Maybe if you take a few deep breaths, relax, and then try and give us some actual information then this discussion could move forwards?
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sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Plasticine Perfection
Originally by: sorilin cause he does it 24/7 ? cause the caracter is always online ? cause cause cause.. theres many ways of spotting a ratter macro. ill use the buble idea however. and yes i think many of u too also uses macro.. hell alot do it so why not..
alot of LAME people out there.
From what you've said there's absolutley *ZERO* evidence that this person is a macro user.
Sounds to me like it's just someone who plays a lot and who has, sensibly, got used to watching local very closely, and who you've just not been clever or fast or skilled enough to catch.
And so you petition them for being a "macroer" when in fact it's just that you guys suck.
And you're calling other people lame?
How about you attempt to actually describe why you think this person is a macro user instead of just being better than you are at EVE?
dont say you guys, say me, cause im the only hunting him. so i suck thats ok for you to say :) alt ? I am the borg! |
sorilin
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:28:00 -
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ps. i got what i came for.. a way of maybe killing him with the L bubles... so mision acomplished.. ill do what ccp wont.. and to be hounest i dont care if hes not a macro. to me he is.. i am yet to see aplayer who can be up 24/7 killing npc for 1 week thats damn hardcore...
anyways. a way was found lets keep it to that. I am the borg! |
Pyst Auph
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:35:00 -
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If you place someone on the block list, does it reciprocate? i.e. If you BLOCK the macro does it also take your name off his in system list?
If it does not, if you can convice CCP to make it this way... problem solved. The in system chat window should not be a poor mans scanner and therefore I don't see a problem convincing CCP to implement this.
Solve the problem by making appearance on someones in system list voluntary.
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Plasticine Perfection
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: sorilin dont say you guys, say me, cause im the only hunting him. so i suck thats ok for you to say :) alt ?
I've explained why I post with this character once already.
Now how about you attempt to answer my question?
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