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Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3562	Posted - 2016.05.29 13:59:13 - [1] - Quote Okay so on another channel we had a lot of videos but they are 6-9 months old. So, we decided, instead of mixing these videos, we would create a channel that would 90% be dedicated to eve. Specifically, at getting new players into eve online by documenting everything eve has to offer with "how to" videos coming out of our ass. That new channel can be found here So this is what we have done SO FAR as videos. 1.Char Creation 2.Getting Started 3.Station Services 4.SOE Research Project 5.Plexes & Skill Injectors/Extractors 6.Implants/Attribute Enhancers 7.NPC Combat 1o1 8.Starting Business Agents 9.Industry Agents 10.Salvaging 1o1 11.Data Analyser 1o1 12.Relic Analyser 1o1 13.Where To Now? 14.What Is Faction Warfare? GÇô (Expand Of This) This is what will be done over the next 2 weeks. 15.What modules do I need to train for, for pvp? 16.Tech 1 Frigates 17.Tech 1 Destroyers 18.Tech 1 Cruisers 19.Tech 1 Battlecruisers 20.Tech 1 Battleships 21.Exploration 1o1 22.What are the mineral types of eve? 23.What do minerals reprocess into? 24.Difference between armor and shield tanking 25.What agents should I run missions for? 26.What are incursions? 27.What is low security space? 28.What is null security space? 29.What is wormhole space? 30.Faction frigates 31.Faction destroyers 32.Faction cruisers 33.Faction battlecruisers 34.Faction battleships 35.Tech 2 frigates 36.Tech 2 destroyers 37.Tech 2 cruisers 38.Tech 2 battlecruisers 39.Tech 2 battleships 40.Tech 3 cruisers 41.What is a POS? 42.What is a POCO? 43.Mining barges 44.Haulers 45.Freighters? Now, we need your help What videos can you think of for us to do? on what? what subjects? etc WE NEED YOUR HELP. 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 469	Posted - 2016.05.29 14:11:56 - [2] - Quote 1. Link to the channel is broken. 2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch. In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2016.05.29 14:21:45 - [3] - Quote Some players will surely get ganked within their first month. In my experience, these will be the ones who Venture too soon into a 0.5 system in Highsec or who use skill injectors/PLEX injudiciously. I'm not suggesting you make a warning video about these matters, though. What I think might be nice is a video of a gank, from the victim's point of view. What you'll see, what you'll hear. The first time it happened to me, in Lowsec, I was completely paralysed, and for long enough that my pod went west too. Since it's certain to happen to some, it might be helpful to show what it's like - and what to do about it. This is not Advanced EVE or something esoteric; it's absolutely vital to retaining the few that might decide EVE isn't for them on the basis that they lost their ship (and/or pod). On a lighter note, you should also definitely devote a whole video to the New Order of Highsec, and our activities. I can offer high quality audio support and light refreshment on the verandah.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2016.05.29 14:22:52 - [4] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 1. Link to the channel is broken. 2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch. In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux. Seems to be working now...
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3562	Posted - 2016.05.29 16:48:25 - [5] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 1. Link to the channel is broken. 2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch. In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux. Very immature response, our previous guide and videos have reached over 20k views in 4 months, so we are not crap video makers the fact the link doesn't work for you speaks volumes about the type of content on your pc, lol much? His videos, are boring, to long, not to the point and ego driven. Trolling a thread, is stupid, don't do it, i am asking for help to make subjects from, not be slagged off by an alt 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3563	Posted - 2016.05.29 17:40:41 - [6] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Some players will surely get ganked within their first month. In my experience, these will be the ones who Venture too soon into a 0.5 system in Highsec or who use skill injectors/PLEX injudiciously. I'm not suggesting you make a warning video about these matters, though. What I think might be nice is a video of a gank, from the victim's point of view. What you'll see, what you'll hear. The first time it happened to me, in Lowsec, I was completely paralysed, and for long enough that my pod went west too. Since it's certain to happen to some, it might be helpful to show what it's like - and what to do about it. This is not Advanced EVE or something esoteric; it's absolutely vital to retaining the few that might decide EVE isn't for them on the basis that they lost their ship (and/or pod). On a lighter note, you should also definitely devote a whole video to the New Order of Highsec, and our activities. I can offer high quality audio support and light refreshment on the verandah. That's a good point, i think i will want to kill me :P 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Sustrai Aditua Irubo Kovu 244	Posted - 2016.05.29 19:18:31 - [7] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: ...In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux.... Not all of them! My links always lead to the chocolate nougat center - especially if you like humor, or really good tunes you may have all but forgotten! If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2016.05.29 19:20:15 - [8] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: That's a good point, i think i will want to kill me :P Haha! You're welcome, any time... What I'd like is to keep this on topic though. I strongly support the efforts of all creative people to enhance the Game, whether through images, video, writing, audio - you name it. I noticed a somewhat dismissive comment, above, and thought it unkind. Even if there are other videos covering the subjects offered, why shouldn't our new players have a choice?
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 470	Posted - 2016.05.29 19:29:00 - [9] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: 1. Link to the channel is broken. 2. Go watch Talladar's videos. You won't do better then them to teach new bros, so just go copy those if you think you will somehow offer a channel people should watch. In relation to (1), I'm glad the link doesn't work. Click bait sux. Very immature response, our previous guide and videos have reached over 20k views in 4 months, so we are not crap video makers the fact the link doesn't work for you speaks volumes about the type of content on your pc, lol much? His videos, are boring, to long, not to the point and ego driven. Trolling a thread, is stupid, don't do it, i am asking for help to make subjects from, not be slagged off by an alt If trolling a thread is stupid, don't do it, why did you? Ad hominems aren't intelligent or cool. My reply was genuine and go click the link on a phone. I wasn't using a desktop. Little bit more modern technology that's often used to consume information, see here: http://puu.sh/p9r1v/bed47f5e13.jpg As to your attack on Talladar, imho his videos are very informative and of high quality. I didn't at any point say yours a crap videos, but quite frankly in response to your post, go **** yourself.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2016.05.29 19:53:54 - [10] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: As to your attack on Talladar, imho his videos are very informative and of high quality. I've definitely enjoyed many of Talladar's videos; they certainly add value to the game. During a recent discussion on the My EVE sub-forum (I think....) the subject of length arose. Some folks find lengthy instructional videos quite difficult to absorb, for a number of reasons - all of them valid. Others avoid brief pithy videos, for equally valid reasons. Then there's the subject matter, which may also dictate the type and length of the treatment. In short, make whatever your instinct tells you to make; and ditch the comparisons.

Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3564	Posted - 2016.05.29 20:51:18 - [11] - Quote Bottom line is Only cowards post with alts, end of story Use your main of gtfo. I find his videos boring period. Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid Why did you even post here? 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 470	Posted - 2016.05.29 20:54:37 - [12] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: Bottom line is Only cowards post with alts, end of story Use your main of gtfo. I find his videos boring period. Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid Why did you even post here? You screamed at us that you needed help. You seemed desperate for assistance. Just my neighbourly thing. If posting on alts is a bad thing, are you saying that Evasive Shadow Assassin is your name IRL? Or is that just a character name, no different to any other character name in that it is totally fictitious?
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12180	Posted - 2016.05.29 20:56:11 - [13] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: Why did you even post here? Presumably to comment on your thread, this (after all) being general discussion. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
sero Hita Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 170	Posted - 2016.05.30 09:19:23 - [14] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: Bottom line is Only cowards post with alts, end of story Use your main of gtfo. I find his videos boring period. Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid Why did you even post here? You screamed at us that you needed help. You seemed desperate for assistance. Just my neighbourly thing. If posting on alts is a bad thing, are you saying that Evasive Shadow Assassin is your name IRL? Or is that just a character name, no different to any other character name in that it is totally fictitious? Well, if you wanted to help you could at least then have watched the videos on something that is able to watch them and then comment. Saying do it like Talladar without knowing how OP did the videos is pretty disrespectfull. And to the add hominem thing, I have seen you commit add hominems on these forums yourself (For example against Dracvlad), so get off you high horse. I think you are also the one admitting on these forums, you like to bait people like Dracvlad and Lucas Kell into responding to you, as the forums are too dull (correct me if it was not you). So don't whine if people think you are trolling. Try to be constructive, if you want to help. "I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
Tisiphone Dira New Order Logistics CODE. 922	Posted - 2016.05.30 10:58:16 - [15] - Quote Load of carebeary **** that completely ignores half the game, the more fun half. You sell people on eve with stories like the GHSC heist, where is the lesson in infiltration and corp theft? 45 lessons, not one of them 'dark side' Yawn.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 123	Posted - 2016.05.30 11:03:09 - [16] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: Bottom line is Only cowards post with alts, end of story Use your main of gtfo. I find his videos boring period. Being a fanboi is not cool. Just stupid Why did you even post here? I hope you're not addressing me. Despite appearances, this is my main. I don't regard membership of a player corporation as a necessity to my play style. When it does become necessary, or sensible, I'll act accordingly. We seem to be veering away from the very important matter of providing new (or any) players with suitable material for their instruction. I support any such initiative, and hope that contributors to the thread will read the original post and make suggestions in a helpful and friendly manner. Shall we begin again?
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 473	Posted - 2016.05.30 11:05:16 - [17] - Quote sero Hita wrote: Well, if you wanted to help you could at least then have watched the videos on something that is able to watch them and then comment. Saying do it like Talladar without knowing how OP did the videos is pretty disrespectfull. Try to be constructive I've watched the OPs videos. Hence my suggestion to go watch Talladar's. As to constructive, each in our own way. It would be a pretty boring place if we all just patted each other on the back, telling each other how good we are.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 123	Posted - 2016.05.30 11:42:00 - [18] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: I've watched the OPs videos. Hence my suggestion to go watch Talladar's. As to constructive, each in our own way. It would be a pretty boring place if we all just patted each other on the back, telling each other how good we are. I knew something was bothering me; it's 'Hendrick Tallardar'. There; got that out of the way. There is always going to be exemplary work in any chosen field. Should that invalidate the efforts of 'lesser' lights? I'm sure you don't think it should. Encouragement needn't be insincere, nor boring. Intelligently applied, in this connection, it tends to increase the pool of available instructional material (which is no bad thing), and perhaps even to spur on the creator to ever greater achievement. I would not have embarked on my own creative path in EVE had I allowed myself to be disheartened by the great work of folks like Jeff Raider and the Crossing Zebras crew.
Lisbeth Riraille Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2016.05.30 13:21:39 - [19] - Quote Link works for me on my iPhone. A 'gankees-eye-view' vid would be useful I think, accompanied by calm reassurance that it's normal and rare if you know what you're doing. Also, some vids about how to make the ISK jump from 50mil earned to 300mil earned. There's room for more than one 'how-to' channel. Keep at it, OP.
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3565	Posted - 2016.05.30 13:32:25 - [20] - Quote Yeh im gonna go into low sec and film me getting ass raped and then explain that this is normal and rageing about it is not appropiate Anymore ideas and i will write them down. 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides

Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 249	Posted - 2016.05.30 13:46:29 - [21] - Quote Meh, watched part of your "Getting started" video and you suggested newbies to train lvl 5 gunnery immediately. That is a 2% Rate of fire increase for 4 days worth of training. Totally not worth it for a complete newbie. That fact that this is what you advised, shows me you probably don't have too much knowledge about the game and your advice can actually be harmful for a newbie. Your attitude in this thread is also really not that great. You accuse people of being immature and Tallardars videos for being ego driven, but you show all these "qualities" yourself in this thread. I wish you luck with your videos, but I'd advise any newbie out there to instead take a look at CCPs own tutorial videos. They are actually pretty well made.
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3566	Posted - 2016.05.30 13:47:32 - [22] - Quote Yes so you watched 1 video, then didn't watch the rest in relation to skills to what to train? You have taken what i said and twisted it, i said for now Think, before you post 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 249	Posted - 2016.05.30 13:56:15 - [23] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: Yes so you watched 1 video, then didn't watch the rest in relation to skills to what to train? You have taken what i said and twisted it, i said for now Think, before you post So you want me to watch through all of your videos and give you views? No thank you. The way to not support content on youtube is to not watch the videos. That one video I chose to watch gave players bad advice, so I made a decision not to further support your content by not watching your videos. Doesn't really matter whatever you said. Telling newbies to train a 2% Rate of fire increase over 4 days to start with is horrible advice.
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3566	Posted - 2016.05.30 14:54:20 - [24] - Quote Bit of an idiot arn't you really, considering what's said in the next three videos You clearly did not listen to a word i said on why to do that so that they where not inactive on training You're just stupid, end of story, typical elitist pvp griefer idiot I know your corp and i know what you are go jump off a bridge n do eve a favour :) 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 252	Posted - 2016.05.30 15:07:44 - [25] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: I know your corp and i know what you are Wow, I didn't know my solo corp would have done any impression on anybody. And even if you just wanted it to be a placeholder so your queue has something training, there are other skills that give more advantage than 2% rate of fire. I find it funny how unable you are to take any criticism. Personal attacks and telling people to kill themselves, that is really mature. You seem like a great human being...
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3566	Posted - 2016.05.30 15:35:08 - [26] - Quote Ha No I'm amusing myself here The more I insult you, the more compelled you are to reply, which speaks volumes, you have to have the last word, you must appear the bigger man, you cannot walk away. Speaks volumes about the kind of human being you are does it not? Or will you try and turn this around as well? I know who you are, I know your main and I know all about you. Nothing is secret on eve, should remember that. 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 252	Posted - 2016.05.30 15:39:34 - [27] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: I know who you are, I know your main and I know all about you. Nothing is secret on eve, should remember that. I suppose you do, cause this is my main :D Not even sure if that was supposed to be a threat.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 10293	Posted - 2016.05.30 15:56:39 - [28] - Quote I didn't look at the videos. But that has no bearing on my comment anyway. Good or bad doesn't matter when you have someone like Assassin fronting the channel. I have some education in marketing and one of the first lessons learned is that being a douche is not going to be conducive to promoting your product and/or service. So how about stop being a douche, Assassin? Or step aside and find a promoter that can actually, you know...promote. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 478	Posted - 2016.05.30 16:28:43 - [29] - Quote Some silent moderation going on, but additional posts by the OP can be seen on eve search: http://eve-search.com/thread/483073-1#24 Suggesting people go jump off a bridge. Not the first time.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12197	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:15:28 - [30] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Some silent moderation going on, but additional posts by the OP can be seen on eve search: http://eve-search.com/thread/483073-1#24 Suggesting people go jump off a bridge. Not the first time. To be honest, suggestions like that are fairly routine from the OP, given their posting history. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log



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