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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.06 05:13:18 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:Arrek Lemmont wrote:EVE itself runs fine for me with DirectX11 but the Mumble overlay won't, so I have to play EVE in DirectX9.
Is CCP working with the Mumble developers to sort out what's going on with Mumble and EVE and DX11? I'm afraid this would be on the Mumble developers, we dont officialy support Mumble integration and I would recommend you file a bug report on their GitHub project. I will accept this answer if anyone at CCP with Windows 10 64 bit has Mumble overlay working on their computer. That's a canned answer and the fact is EVE's incompatibility with Mumble is a failure.
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Darkblad
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Posted - 2016.06.06 08:25:37 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I will accept this answer if anyone at CCP with Windows 10 64 bit has Mumble overlay working on their computer. That's a canned answer and the fact is EVE's incompatibility with Mumble is a failure. Not a "solution" per se but a workaround until this gets fixed (read: probably forever): Try this.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3867
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Posted - 2016.06.06 15:12:25 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:Primary Suspect wrote:When money talks bullshit walks i guess. I dont quite get your sentiment, except that we will save development resources by being forced to choose less efficient options for the graphic features we impliment. We can then spend our time investigating and implimenting better and more efficient visuals. For example the clouds, they are slow... we know this and we dont like it! We have an option to make them run faster but it's a DX11 only feature. That is why we're removing them from DX9 and converting them over to the next system for DX11. CCP Vertex, I think what he means is players with a lot of money, who can afford to upgrade their computers and most likely have a lot of accounts, get what they want. Whereas those who cannot afford to upgrade and can barely keep one account going are first getting marginalized, and eventually thrown under the bus.
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
265
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Posted - 2016.06.06 17:40:07 -
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Rain6637 wrote:DirectX 9 lets Mumble overlay work some of the time DirectX 11 breaks Mumble overlay all the time
This issue is 2 years old now. Any solutions for getting Mumble overlay to work with EVE Online, pretty much the only game that has an issue with Mumble, and has since Rubicon
As I said. Use test version and make sure overlay is active at all times (otherwise there is a very bad memory leak). Works perfectly by activating show FPS for me (tested with up to 5 clients for hours). |
Tiranius Avetus
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
11
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Posted - 2016.06.06 18:48:44 -
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For everyone with complains about DX11 http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560-oem 45$ on ebay |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.06 20:37:33 -
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Axhind wrote:Rain6637 wrote:DirectX 9 lets Mumble overlay work some of the time DirectX 11 breaks Mumble overlay all the time
This issue is 2 years old now. Any solutions for getting Mumble overlay to work with EVE Online, pretty much the only game that has an issue with Mumble, and has since Rubicon As I said. Use test version and make sure overlay is active at all times (otherwise there is a very bad memory leak). Works perfectly by activating show FPS for me (tested with up to 5 clients for hours). no buddy I know what you said and the issue is a bit more serious and it's why you have people who say it works and others who don't. It comes down to administrator privileges and UAC, apparently.
Quote:First, let's check if your user account has insufficient permissions. If your account has improper permissions, nothing that was suggested before will make a difference.
Step 1. Ensure that your User Account Control (UAC) is entirely disabled. Go to Start, Control Panel. On the top right, set "View by:" to Small icons. Click on User Accounts. Click on "Change User Account Control settings" and set the bar to the lowest level, "Never notify". Click OK and restart if it prompts you.
Step 2. Activating the true Administrator account. Go to Start, and in the search bar below your programs, type in Command Prompt. Right-click on the program and press "Run as administrator".
Type in, without the quotations, "net user administrator /active:yes"
If it displays that "Access is denied", go back into cmd and type in, without quotations, "sfc /scannow". This will fix integrity issues with your Windows installation.
If it worked, then log off your account & log into the new Administrator account. Ensure that the User Account Controls are properly set to "Never notify" again on your new account, open up Mumble first, ensure that the overlay is enabled, and then open up EVE.
Then log back in to your original account & in the Command Prompt, without quotations, type in "net user administrator /active:no"
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.07 03:53:09 -
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You're welcome Vertex
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
266
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Posted - 2016.06.07 05:08:55 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Axhind wrote:Rain6637 wrote:DirectX 9 lets Mumble overlay work some of the time DirectX 11 breaks Mumble overlay all the time
This issue is 2 years old now. Any solutions for getting Mumble overlay to work with EVE Online, pretty much the only game that has an issue with Mumble, and has since Rubicon As I said. Use test version and make sure overlay is active at all times (otherwise there is a very bad memory leak). Works perfectly by activating show FPS for me (tested with up to 5 clients for hours). no buddy I know what you said and the issue is a bit more serious and it's why you have people who say it works and others who don't. It comes down to administrator privileges and UAC, apparently. Quote:First, let's check if your user account has insufficient permissions. If your account has improper permissions, nothing that was suggested before will make a difference.
Step 1. Ensure that your User Account Control (UAC) is entirely disabled. Go to Start, Control Panel. On the top right, set "View by:" to Small icons. Click on User Accounts. Click on "Change User Account Control settings" and set the bar to the lowest level, "Never notify". Click OK and restart if it prompts you.
Step 2. Activating the true Administrator account. Go to Start, and in the search bar below your programs, type in Command Prompt. Right-click on the program and press "Run as administrator".
Type in, without the quotations, "net user administrator /active:yes"
If it displays that "Access is denied", go back into cmd and type in, without quotations, "sfc /scannow". This will fix integrity issues with your Windows installation.
If it worked, then log off your account & log into the new Administrator account. Ensure that the User Account Controls are properly set to "Never notify" again on your new account, open up Mumble first, ensure that the overlay is enabled, and then open up EVE.
Then log back in to your original account & in the Command Prompt, without quotations, type in "net user administrator /active:no"
As discussed in Jabber this is for the confused people using win10. If you are using win7 then no need to muck around with UAC. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33905
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Posted - 2016.06.07 14:30:42 -
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Windows 7? Do you play EVE on a government computer or something
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Azahar Ortenegro
Astromechanica Maxima Astromechanica Federatis
95
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Posted - 2016.06.07 19:02:38 -
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On a secure computer. Hence W7. |
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33905
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Posted - 2016.06.07 19:06:42 -
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totally worth still using Windows 7.
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
91
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Posted - 2016.06.08 09:55:57 -
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Yongtau Naskingar wrote:dxdiag reports I can use DirectX 11, but the launcher says my laptop only support DirectX 9. Yay.
Are you still using the old launcher? This should not happen in the new launcher.
You can get it here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/download/
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.08 10:33:51 -
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Coredeath Cicada wrote:Arrakis Askiras wrote:Dominous Nolen wrote:So for those of us who play on older hardware, we're **** outta luck eh? Thanks CCP. G-FING-G
Not just people with old hardware. Got a spanking new ATI/AMD graphics card (well, not spanking new but almost: R9 390) and with DX11 I had frequent crashes which caused me to lose two ships (a Proteus and a cheap frig). Since I've switched to DX9 I've had no crashes. Apparently I'm not the only one with that problem. It's nice that CCP intends to move forwards but please make sure that everything works on the 'new' API before you switch old the more stable legacy mode. I also use a R9 390x, I can confirm using DX11 crashes my system and since turning back to DX9 Ive had no crashes and no performance issues, in fact the game runs smoother. For example, that gas cloud on the Amarr trade hub, no slowdown in DX9, slowdown in DX11 + crashing. My ticket was told to 'Just go to DX9' after filing my log and error report to CCP. Not a fix, just a temp solution and left it at that. Midn you that was back in 2015. If a plugs being pulled can the ATI card users get some stable love first?
Any chance I can get you to try DX11 again, preferably with logging enabled, so that if you run into a crash you could send me the log?
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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venom zp
Fair People Hard Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.10 17:00:36 -
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GeForce gts 250 with dx10 will work ? Checkmark near dx9 in launcher settings are not , but ctrl+F in game shows dx9 |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2112
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Posted - 2016.06.13 10:50:55 -
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venom zp wrote:GeForce gts 250 with dx10 will work ? When DirectX 9 is deprecated, you will need a DX11-compatible GPU to run Eve. The Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 does not support DX11, so at that point you'll have to upgrade.
Note that DX11 graphics cards have been out a long time and it should be possible to get a compatible GPU for a very modest price.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Bloph
Lamarr Industries Rock Ridge Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.13 19:10:40 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:Yongtau Naskingar wrote:dxdiag reports I can use DirectX 11, but the launcher says my laptop only support DirectX 9. Yay. Are you still using the old launcher? This should not happen in the new launcher. You can get it here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/download/
Downloaded, on running it says it will wipe my current installation of Eve & re-install. But I only need the new launcher, why the sledgehammer?
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
6029
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Posted - 2016.06.13 23:48:24 -
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Bloph wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Yongtau Naskingar wrote:dxdiag reports I can use DirectX 11, but the launcher says my laptop only support DirectX 9. Yay. Are you still using the old launcher? This should not happen in the new launcher. You can get it here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/download/ Downloaded, on running it says it will wipe my current installation of Eve & re-install. But I only need the new launcher, why the sledgehammer?
Bear in mind it's talking _specifically_ about the client, not the shared cache.
It stores the client in a different location, than the old launcher did. In part, so you don't have permissions issues for updates, which cropped up on a semi regular basis with the old launcher.
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
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Posted - 2016.06.20 21:44:34 -
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Vincent Athena wrote: CCP Vertex, I think what he means is players with a lot of money, who can afford to upgrade their computers and most likely have a lot of accounts, get what they want. Whereas those who cannot afford to upgrade and can barely keep one account going are first getting marginalized, and eventually thrown under the bus.
If your playing on a 5+ year old computer and can't afford to upgrade or even just buy a cheap more upto date machine. Your hardly going to pay the subscription fee or even grind. Most computers have a Mean Time Before Failure of about 3-5 years. Your machine could die any minute. Your telling me you won't replace it in that situation?
In other news i am outraged CCP won't let me play Eve on my old 486 (yes i have one. It sort of works, with 4Megs of very flaky ram and a floppy drive! It has a 1G HDD wow. )
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.20 22:09:48 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Vincent Athena wrote: CCP Vertex, I think what he means is players with a lot of money, who can afford to upgrade their computers and most likely have a lot of accounts, get what they want. Whereas those who cannot afford to upgrade and can barely keep one account going are first getting marginalized, and eventually thrown under the bus.
If your playing on a 5+ year old computer and can't afford to upgrade or even just buy a cheap more upto date machine. Your hardly going to pay the subscription fee or even grind. Most computers have a Mean Time Before Failure of about 3-5 years. Your machine could die any minute. Your telling me you won't replace it in that situation? In other news i am outraged CCP won't let me play Eve on my old 486 (yes i have one. It sort of works, with 4Megs of very flaky ram and a floppy drive! It has a 1G HDD wow. ) If he still has it, Falcon has kept his computer running for a decade or something crazy like that.
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ube smoked
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2016.06.23 13:10:16 -
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Lord's Prophet wrote:Linux users require DX9 too. Time to upgrade to Windows. |
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marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. The Bastion
160
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Posted - 2016.06.24 07:51:52 -
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Seems a little perverse that a company suffering such a drop in accounts over a past few years, mostly attributed to there own actions, should again choose to follow a path of introducing yet another 'Credit Card Barrier' into Eve so shutting out even more players.
Why would anyone think this is a good idea, but then looking at the Graphics situation overall it's not really surprising to hear but maybe CCP Devs need to take stock of one or two facts,
Not everyone has unlimited funds to own anything other than a basic computer setup.
Those in the above area have little interest in the updates to graphics as they cannot partake in them anyway so to them they are meaningless, Clouds, Skins what ever they simply cannot run there graphics at the levels required to even see them and for some the station graphics cause them real problems.
Eve was always a game for everyone, if you could get online you could at one time run Eve but this has been lost along the way to a sea of graphics updates most of which a large swathe of players simply find unusable, not really surprising they feel as if they do not matter to CCP.
Removal of DX9 back compatibility will not stand CCP in good stead to those unable to use DX11 simply because they cannot afford to update there graphics cards. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33976
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Posted - 2016.06.24 15:16:46 -
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My clients keep crashing on DX11 at least once per session. I've sent a detailed bug report with error logs. I'm going back to DX9 for now and if you switch us over and the crashes continue I'm going to be very loud. You will get a bug report each time, if not also support tickets for lost ships.
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.24 16:21:13 -
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Rain6637 wrote:My clients keep crashing on DX11 at least once per session. I've sent a detailed bug report with error logs. I'm going back to DX9 for now and if you switch us over and the crashes continue I'm going to be very loud. You will get a bug report each time, if not also support tickets for lost ships. Can you please send me your bug report number (starts with EBR- and you can see it here) in-game?
Or post it here, that's fine too.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33993
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Posted - 2016.06.27 05:38:04 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Rain6637 wrote:My clients keep crashing on DX11 at least once per session. I've sent a detailed bug report with error logs. I'm going back to DX9 for now and if you switch us over and the crashes continue I'm going to be very loud. You will get a bug report each time, if not also support tickets for lost ships. Can you please send me your bug report number (starts with EBR- and you can see it here) in-game? Or post it here, that's fine too. Hey Darwin, it's EBR-85639. There was a main log that included crash times and several other logs that had corresponding timestamps. I sent them all. I think the logs are related to two separate crashes.
I can get them to crash pretty consistently, and if you want me to try something just lemme know. I will start watching this thread closely.
Also worth noting is after making the client delay "0 seconds" in the launcher, I ran into an error message that said the cache files were unavailable. I didn't take a screenshot, unfortunately.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.27 05:45:45 -
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The oddest part about the crashes is they don't happen during anything in particular. They seem to be a random. Sometimes I'm interacting with the client, and other times I'm sitting around in station or in space doing nothing. Sometimes the crash is across several clients, and other times just one.
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.27 10:30:44 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Hey Darwin, it's EBR-85639.
Thanks! Sent you a response to your EVE mail on this account. Appreciate the bug report!
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33994
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Posted - 2016.06.27 13:20:46 -
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I'm glad to help and I'm looking forward to learning more about this issue. Thanks for your attention. I have some appointments today and after I get back from them I will start putting my system through its paces.
XOXO
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.27 16:47:51 -
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There is another message for you and another daily bug report.
My new dailies.
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Ytamii Arval
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Posted - 2016.08.22 03:47:35 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:HellGate fr wrote:I generally play with at least 16 accs running with 1024*768 windows full low details, idc about dx11 unless it makes the whole thing run faster (does it though ?) ...
The new launcher is very good though, except when I go play on sisi and it clears all my launcher settings (accounts list) for TQ. DirectX 11 offers much better memory management and frame rates than that of DX9. You should try DX11 with all of your accounts, i'd be suprised if you got worse performance.
In that case, I hope you're sitting down for this. I'm filing a bug report which shows that my in-space fps drops from 60 to 40 when I switch from DX9 to DX11 (ID EBR-91315). As bad as that sounds, it's actually an improvement. It used to drop by 50%. Oddly, they get exactly the same fps in-CQ.
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Absolute Intoleranto
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.08.22 11:29:12 -
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If you want to change the API, why wont you use Vulkan instead of DX11? Every card that runs DX11 should be able to run DX12 and Vulkan.
In other words, you shouldnt lose much more in comparison to your current plans.
Nvidia seems to support Vulkan on Linux. Nividia Linux/Vulkan The same should be with AMD.
I am not entirely sure, but I remember DX11 being massively hardware hungry. Vulkan on the other side should provide a perfomance boost.
Something EVE players would appreciate.
Speaking for myself, I am running the game on DX11. (Since DX9 isnt appointed on my client) |
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