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Nikla Uthaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.03.01 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that. "
How about the problem being "precious development time spent on adding optional resource which people who don't like it, won't use"..? This effort could've been instead used on optimizations of current client and server code which would benefit all players rather than just these who 'like it'... O.o
Does this mean that all ôprecious development timeö spent by CCP on features (existing or future) that donÆt benefit all players and you donÆt approve of is wasted effort unless itÆs thrown at client and server code optimizations? ...
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Sangxianc
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Aldirien Rathmore I am not sure I want to talk to the "unwashed masses" I run across during my travels in EVE. It is one thing to get popped by a pirate and listen to a little smack talk. If that smack talk comes out of the mouth of some 15 year old with a sqeaking voice I may have to kill myself.
But maybe it would come out of the mouth of Samuel L Jackson with his deep and alluring voice. You know he plays this game right?
This is why my entire alliance, everyone I know and I will be paying for this fantabuloustastic and well thought out service.
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3rdD Dave
Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that.
Becasue opinions are like A-holes.. everyone single person on this forum has one. ( btw im in agreement with you, i dont see the problem )
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes The OSS
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that.
It's not so much not wanting to use a feature, it's quite the opposite actually. However EvE itself makes it impossible for it to be usefull due to client/node instability and voice comms being tied in to it.
I would use it without a doubt if voice comms would remain when client/node crashes (G15 support would be nice too).
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Znaei
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that. "
How about the problem being "precious development time spent on adding optional resource which people who don't like it, won't use"..? This effort could've been instead used on optimizations of current client and server code which would benefit all players rather than just these who 'like it'... O.o
You have been playing long enough to know there are different divsions within CCP that handles different tasks. We have see enough ppl whining about why CCP didnt skip some content deployment and use the resources to fix server stability to last a lifetime.
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Sun Ra
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that.
Thats well and good but what if you change corps to one that uses it, which means you'll have to pay for something you dont want/cant afford
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Skarsnik
Caldari A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that.
Thats well and good but what if you change corps to one that uses it, which means you'll have to pay for something you dont want/cant afford
If you complaining that you'd have to pay approx 85c extra a month because you cannot afford it then you shouldn't be paying the $15 for EVE per month. Surely the $15 coudl go towards food and bills?
I honestly doubt anyone that is currently playing cannot afford the 85c, and if you cant you shouldn't be paying the $15 -------------
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that.
Thats well and good but what if you change corps to one that uses it, which means you'll have to pay for something you dont want/cant afford
Maybe CCP can come up with a GTC-type solution so that those of you who can't afford $10 per year would be able to use the service. ...
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Brolly
Caldari The Department of Justice
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Posted - 2007.03.01 17:27:00 -
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I think it's a grand idea as long as time cards will be available for it, $10 a year is chump change and well worth it imho.
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Angry Sheep
Amarr Aur0ra
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Posted - 2007.03.01 18:05:00 -
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I am all for it BUT will not be using it for a few diff reasons.
We have a corp team speak server and the advantages are thus:
1) an Eve member crashes to CTD, he can still get a sit rep off the TS and keep up to date. He is not in total comms darkness
2) Classic Eve node crash - All the TS people can arrange their own activites without loosing coms
apart from that I actually like the eve cos idea.
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Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.01 18:27:00 -
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logging off or dropping should disconnect VIVOX. Why do you need to be in Voice if your not ingame??? Clankiller |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2007.03.01 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop logging off or dropping should disconnect VIVOX. Why do you need to be in Voice if your not ingame???
Example. ...
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Mikal Drey
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that.
I think the MAIN problem is the PAYMENT. I havent seen any dev/GM state that there will be a direct payment for the voice option and iirc the only real statement was that subs might go up a little to help towards the new cost of servers and tech etc.
if its directly intergrated into the client and works like the video demo does then (personally) i liked it and its a huge advantage over TS and Vent. I havent heard muc back from the live testing atm but im actually looking forward to this new bug . . . i mean feature.
im not testing atm but if you have multiple chans does that also give you multiple audios and how do you switch between them ? atgm it all looks good on paper :)
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Erfnam
Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.01 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey
im not testing atm but if you have multiple chans does that also give you multiple audios and how do you switch between them ? atgm it all looks good on paper :)
Based upon the fact that CCP is still failing to properly manage focus for text channels, I don't have much faith in a new system that is based upon a broken one.
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NoNameNewbie
Caldari Raynor Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.01 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that. "
How about the problem being "precious development time spent on adding optional resource which people who don't like it, won't use"..? This effort could've been instead used on optimizations of current client and server code which would benefit all players rather than just these who 'like it'... O.o
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2007.03.01 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 01/03/2007 22:35:38 I pinned down the guy doing the implementing at Fanfest to talk about it.
Seems like a good idea, they've got some fairly interesting thoughts on some of the cool stuff you can do.
Technically it doesn't have to be client integrated, but the problem you hit there is one of access and roles and stuff - how do you tell which channels someone should be able to access, and how do you 'kick' 'em. The Vivox server infrastructure counts as 'telecomms grade', so can do all manner of cool and resilient stuff.
I also thought it was rather telling that a lot of questions were about voice out of EVE, e.g. when a server's down, or something.
Personally though, I don't see the problem, if it's an option.
But unless they've changed their mind, there's no voice going to be on 'local'. So no ransoming people in local to get them to sing :).
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Araxmas
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.01 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
I don't understand why CCP are attempting to insert a voice communication system into EVE when there are so many programs already out on the market. Adding EVE voice will only worsen performance, IMHO, as it takes alot of bandwidth to send real-time voice-chat. As it stands now, instead of placing the load on the EVE servers, the client picks up the slack, as they connect to a third party server, not the EVE server.
Is there something I'm not seeing here? Is CCP coding it such that it routes through a second program in the background, and not the EVE client; just controlled through the client?
VOIP do not add extra strain on servers or eve, i forgot where i got the techy info about it from but it wont lag resources and crap. --------
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James Duar
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.03.01 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus Edited by: James Lyrus on 01/03/2007 22:35:38 I pinned down the guy doing the implementing at Fanfest to talk about it.
Seems like a good idea, they've got some fairly interesting thoughts on some of the cool stuff you can do.
Technically it doesn't have to be client integrated, but the problem you hit there is one of access and roles and stuff - how do you tell which channels someone should be able to access, and how do you 'kick' 'em. The Vivox server infrastructure counts as 'telecomms grade', so can do all manner of cool and resilient stuff.
I also thought it was rather telling that a lot of questions were about voice out of EVE, e.g. when a server's down, or something.
Personally though, I don't see the problem, if it's an option.
But unless they've changed their mind, there's no voice going to be on 'local'. So no ransoming people in local to get them to sing :).
Telling, maybe, but it's really how the game roles these days and it's disputable how terrible login traps are, so it has to be considered when you're going to add 1 feature and not clarify your position on another - otherwise people really just aren't going to use it.
Done right, it's almost certain that the voice functionality would become a smaller scale version of the current GTC exchange and CCP, if they're serious, would be wise to enable voice-for-ISK trading to happen.
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Brep
Gallente Lode Runners
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Posted - 2007.03.01 23:31:00 -
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LEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEENNNNNKINNNNNSS!!!
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Gretek Lal
Minmatar RennTech The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.02 00:13:00 -
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I don't see the point of any type of voice communications in a game.
I've got several very good reasons why I don't and won't use such communications. One of them is that I often play with the sound off, when the family is sleeping.
And I won't wear a headset to play a game, even if all I do is listen.
In my last job I was required to wear a headset all day, every day. The day I have to wear a headset to play a game in my free time is the day I stop playing that game.
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Kurunth Grok
Gallente Bogans INC
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Posted - 2007.03.02 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kurunth Grok on 02/03/2007 00:34:21 Consider the advent of the new mission framework. Level 5 missions being Gang structured missions in low sec, where good comms means you can avoid being an easy pod. How to get more people in all those 100s of small corps in high sec to actually do these level 5 missions when so many do not have access to thier own voice server.
Answer: provide some voice communication for the game.
Well thats how I see the whole thing unfolding. No voice in game, no body bothering with these new missions, people leaving coz they cant take part in the new content without getting ganked over an over (instead of just sometimes )
Not sure about the paying extra for a separate account with Vivox for something that can only be used for this game. Would rather see it as a feature of the game that i am paying a monthly cost for anyway.
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Denrace
Amarr JEM Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.02 00:35:00 -
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What's wrong with TS/Vent?!
This doesn't strike me as something that players have been screaming for.
ZOMG NERF-NANOS! ZOMG TII LOTTERY! ZOMG WHATEVER
Not "Christ, guys! We REALLY need an EVE-Based $1/month voice communication system, or were screwed!"
Seems a little unneccessary and, while I admire the developmental efforts and achievements of this system, I can't help but think that time could have been used more wisely.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.02 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that. "
How about the problem being "precious development time spent on adding optional resource which people who don't like it, won't use"..? This effort could've been instead used on optimizations of current client and server code which would benefit all players rather than just these who 'like it'... O.o
The Voice Client is being worked on by a different company, the man hours 'lost' on it are likely nothing of signifigance, and you're assuming that anyone coding stuff for the client are able to work on other parts of the game.
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2007.03.02 01:44:00 -
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Do you really want your "secure" convo channel monitored by employees of CCP? Do you really trust them with your capital ship's security? Hmmm?
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Sicarius
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 02:08:00 -
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ZOMG
I'll go broke .. I cant afford the extra 1$ a month to be able to speak easily with my friends...
oh common, dont be lame, I pay for 4 accounts, extra 4$ a month is just drop in the ocean at this point.. omg you dont afford 1$ a month .. simple, dont use the service, there will be plenty of us who will use it.
And the problem with TS/Vent and other 3rd party apps are .. well, the third party app part. I'd much rather use an integrated program that fully functions with the Gang system than a TS/Vent server which will go nuts everytime a n00b speaks up. and dont even begin with the TS/Vent being easy and stuff .. I've hosted my own TS server, and Vent servers .. and if the VoIP codec used in ViVox is as good as they say it is, then vivox is superiour to anything TS/Vent can throw at it.
and for christs sake, to all the people who claim that CCP is spending "valuable resources on a useless feature" .. grow up and grow a brain .. and ban me or anything for saying it, I'm not after the ISD Moderator status anyways.
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Tractormech
Caldari the Gaurds of Honor
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Posted - 2007.03.02 03:00:00 -
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It will be better to use simply for the sound quality. It is FAR superior to ts/vent in that respect.I have played other mmos with built in comms similar to vivox and it is so much easier to customize and set up
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Arian Snow
The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 03:09:00 -
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Edited by: Arian Snow on 02/03/2007 03:09:05
Originally by: j0sephine "We're adding a feature that you can choose to use or not to use, I really have a hard time seeing what the problem is. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple as that. "
How about the problem being "precious development time spent on adding optional resource which people who don't like it, won't use"..? This effort could've been instead used on optimizations of current client and server code which would benefit all players rather than just these who 'like it'... O.o
Brilliant...
Originally by: Tractormech It will be better to use simply for the sound quality. It is FAR superior to ts/vent in that respect.I have played other mmos with built in comms similar to vivox and it is so much easier to customize and set up
Oh yeah I like the IAC 'fleetoperational' burbs to be more high quality... I dont give a rats arse really, Vent is plenty of good quality if you use the right codec. I dont remember I dont recall I dont have memory of anything at all! |
prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: prathe on 02/03/2007 04:17:27 there are alot of feature in eve that need work
voice coms is not one of them
vivox = waste of time/effort better spent on server/client fixes
no point in fixing the cart when the horse is dying ya know
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viceman
Caldari Without Reason FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 06:04:00 -
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what about the people who use gtcs to play eve? --------------------- Ex-benwallace :P I am back foo! |
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