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Satchel Darkmatter
Kripa Exploration
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Posted - 2016.07.05 17:42:34 -
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Hi all newbro here, I'm not a greedy person so for me amassing Isk is not something I feel like I need to do, I'm now upto around 3 million skill points and working on pushing my skills so I can get access to tech II modules in the various locations that my ships use, guns, shields etc.
As a result I have a skill queue that's well over a month long and I now find that even tho iv only been playing for I guess 3 million+ skill points worth of time(3 months?) roughly that I am login in checking my mail and logging back out.
This is the only MMO I have ever played and I have played a lot of them, where I don't wake up in the morning and look forward to logging in, I am waking in the morning and checking my phone to see if I can slot anything else onto my queue and that's it.
Every now and then I log in and check the corp recruitment chat for potential corp homes but finding one that fits has been an epic nightmare, Corps either want a min SP that I do not yet have, or they want me to move out to null and mine, honestly if I am going to be forced to mine I would rather do it in Highsec where I can afk and watch a movie.
I appreciate that once I finally find a corp with the criteria I need I will have more reasons to login, but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE, or are you like me and have nothing to do, or more accurately nothing compelling to do.
Quote:I HATE, the skill point system in this game, it sounds amazing on paper but I think in practice it just demotivates players to login and that cant be a good thing. |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
544
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Posted - 2016.07.05 17:58:03 -
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Satchel Darkmatter wrote:but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE
I log in to be social with my fleetmates and the thrill of PvP. When activity is at a lull I plan and acquire new fits, scout around a bit, do some ISK-making activities to fund my habits, and plan future events. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16616
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Posted - 2016.07.05 18:02:00 -
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sounds like you are in a crap corp buddy, were you not you wouldn't be all that bothered by sp.
Better the Devil you know.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14272
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Posted - 2016.07.05 18:05:41 -
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I just plain seems like EVE and you aren't that compatible TBH, it sounds like you enjoy a bit of the old instant gratification..snd there is nothing wrong with that, EVE just doesn't lend itself to that kind of thing, even with things like skill injectors.
It's a game for self starter types who MAKE things to do rather than wait to experience them. After a shaky start 9 years ago I never stopped logging in to do stuff unless outside forces intervened. outside forces like Wife, lack of internet while moving houses, having to go to work, etc.
Just last night I was working overtime when a ship fit idea (which will probably fail, like most of mine do) hit me. Could not wait to get home and run it by my buds even though I was too tired to actually play. |
Velarra
527
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Posted - 2016.07.05 18:18:01 -
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Eve is a game that only gives back, what you put in. Occasionally it leeches your soul and makes you vomit profusely all over the keyboard too. But really? It's a toolbox. If you ignore the tools, the resources and building blocks available...
They won't build things for you. You can't just open it and magically be presented with a new gizmo to fiddle with.
-you have to make it- ...
And be willing to let someone else break it or at least face the consequences that they might certainly try.
CCP included if your toy or new content is too disruptive.
But seriously, one logs in for the things you can create, learn or do.
If you look at it in terms of SP or ISK or PVE or even only PVP content. You will eventually get bored and find something else that's shiny, better executed, free and new. (Before returning to the pure hell/misery that is eve and its *somethingsomething* developers).
And finally, you log in for the people you get to know, & if you're lucky get to call friends. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
17807
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Posted - 2016.07.05 18:28:39 -
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Satchel Darkmatter wrote:Hi all newbro here, I'm not a greedy person so for me amassing Isk is not something I feel like I need to do, I'm now upto around 3 million skill points and working on pushing my skills so I can get access to tech II modules in the various locations that my ships use, guns, shields etc. As a result I have a skill queue that's well over a month long and I now find that even tho iv only been playing for I guess 3 million+ skill points worth of time(3 months?) roughly that I am login in checking my mail and logging back out. This is the only MMO I have ever played and I have played a lot of them, where I don't wake up in the morning and look forward to logging in, I am waking in the morning and checking my phone to see if I can slot anything else onto my queue and that's it. Every now and then I log in and check the corp recruitment chat for potential corp homes but finding one that fits has been an epic nightmare, Corps either want a min SP that I do not yet have, or they want me to move out to null and mine, honestly if I am going to be forced to mine I would rather do it in Highsec where I can afk and watch a movie. I appreciate that once I finally find a corp with the criteria I need I will have more reasons to login, but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE, or are you like me and have nothing to do, or more accurately nothing compelling to do. Quote:I HATE, the skill point system in this game, it sounds amazing on paper but I think in practice it just demotivates players to login and that cant be a good thing.
What are you doing with the SP that you already have?
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Trader20
Hedion University Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2016.07.05 18:51:55 -
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Don't let the self entitled players tell you this game is not for you. They think Eve is some enigma that only certain people have the wisdom to figure out, but in reality it's whatever you want it to be. It can be a political strategy game, mining/market simulator, or more my style a gate/station camping, kill mail sniping, no allegiance, button masher.
For no frills pvp try some fw. You don't need much skill to tag along and you can make your own schedule. Also no one cares if you mess up.
If you get bored take breaks, play other games, go outside. Eve is a game that I find myself taking breaks when it gets stale. |
Tavari Minrathos
Honey Badgers R US
17
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Posted - 2016.07.05 18:54:31 -
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make isk->buy injectors with isk->train faster |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2348
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Posted - 2016.07.05 19:13:56 -
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There is so much that can be done in this game. Go have fun doing the many things you can do with the skillpoints you have now rather than wait until you have more. Your fun is not limited to none because you don't have a zillion skillpoints (or isk...or whatever). Find a corp that's right for you...read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331341&find=unread
EvE security zones in pictures
EvE quick reference sheet pdf
Smoke me a Kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
17809
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Posted - 2016.07.05 19:17:51 -
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Tavari Minrathos wrote:make isk->buy injectors with isk->train faster
I dont really like that this is an available option, but it is. I'd question what one can do with 4M SP that one can't with 3M but eh.
Personally I think the situation is better framed as looking at what one can do, rather than pinining over what one cant. When I had 3M SP I was derping about in a nano caracal trying very incompetently to farm DED plexes in lo-sec. I was probably making about 1.5M ISK/hr, but that didn't matter because I was flying a t1 fit nano caracal. I didn't pay any attention to what anyone else was doing, only to what I was doing.
I had extremely good times.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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DeODokktor
Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
65
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Posted - 2016.07.05 20:30:39 -
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The cheaper faction/deadspace mods can sometimes rival or beat tech2.. If you feel that your getting held back by your modules then I suggest you look at those on the cheaper end and see if that can meet your needs.
The game allows users to go in many different dead-ends, err I mean directions. You don't need to set a "goal" to reach, but you should try picking a couple of those directions and pushing yourself towards them, else you will not know if you enjoy them or not.
Early game you do feel that your held back due to SP or ISK, don't let those things hold you back, just try to run them on a scale that fits what you can cope with.
Also you could be churning out much more SP than 1m per month. With +5's and correct mapping you can get just over 1.9m per month.
I find myself in a lul quite a bit... Few months play, few years off... The game is open ended so you can do that if you want.. Welcome to the sandbox. |
Hengle Teron
Order In Disorder Curatores Veritatis Alliance
59908
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:08:39 -
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Why does this look to me like fishing for a "we're not that kind of corp, join us." thing? |
Demolishar
United Aggression
1122
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:11:04 -
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Satchel Darkmatter wrote:honestly if I am going to be forced to mine I would rather do it in Highsec where I can afk and watch a movie.
Actually you can't afk, it's not CODE-compliant behaviour. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
55620
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:24:11 -
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Satchel Darkmatter wrote:Hi all newbro here, ........................... ........................................ ...............
I appreciate that once I finally find a corp with the criteria I need I will have more reasons to login, but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE, or are you like me and have nothing to do, or more accurately nothing compelling to do.
Hello and welcome to Eve.
Since you're a newbro you haven't even really seen or experienced everything Eve has to offer. No matter what type of gameplay you enjoy, PvP or PvE, there's a lot of different career paths available.
Things to do in Eve
That link shows quite a bit and there's still even more game play options available that's not listed such as CCP's new Event Opportunities. You can also create your own Event. For example in the past there's been players who have documented a Sight-Seeing tour of Eve Landmarks or have literally traveled through all the systems in Eve starting with The Eve Gate.
Travel Guide
I suggest trying out different career paths and then alternate your time between the ones you like. That will keep the game fresh, exciting and entertaining for a long time.
Hope you have a long and rewarding career here.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16620
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:29:09 -
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Trader20 wrote:
Edit: Also Eve is meant to be played with a second monitor with Netflix/youtube on.
no , eve is ment to be played with a second monitor with another client on it
Better the Devil you know.
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
414
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:35:40 -
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Demolishar wrote:Satchel Darkmatter wrote:honestly if I am going to be forced to mine I would rather do it in Highsec where I can afk and watch a movie. Actually you can't afk, it's not CODE-compliant behaviour.
Drat, that behavior is my entire playstyle... but I don't AFK anyway.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2654
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:38:01 -
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There is soo many you can do in EvE, even just cruising around New Eden and visit new places can be relaxing ... what do I do when logging in? Check my industry production, haul stuff from/to market, reset my nullsec PI planets, switch to PvP clone, go solo hunting in lowsec and wormholes, join a fleet, do some relic exploration, answer questions in the german help channel ... running in circles between Jita and Osmon to grab points and loot of the current event while babysitting market orders. In January I completed a special project to unlock all four Empire epic arcs at the same time ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
55620
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Posted - 2016.07.05 21:44:07 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:In January I completed a special project to unlock all four Empire epic arcs at the same time ...
I'm very interested in knowing the details of this 'Special Project'.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Velarra
530
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Posted - 2016.07.05 23:33:06 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Trader20 wrote:
Edit: Also Eve is meant to be played with a second monitor with Netflix/youtube on.
no , eve is ment to be played with a second monitor with another client on it
Before mining on the test server as a sleeping aid? |
Aaron
Stain Syndicate
399
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Posted - 2016.07.06 00:12:48 -
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Satchel Darkmatter, you're suffering the symptoms from not being part of my "Hub Zero" venture.
You don't need a corp, just your pod, I can show you exciting stuff to do where I am that will fit your criteria, we can blue each other and live like a small community, Be patient there's still lots you can do with T1 mods as part of a small fleet.
Shoot me an email whenever and I will explain it to you.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
339
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Posted - 2016.07.06 00:25:36 -
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Eli Stan wrote:Satchel Darkmatter wrote:but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE I log in to be social with my fleetmates and the thrill of PvP. When activity is at a lull I plan and acquire new fits, scout around a bit, do some ISK-making activities to fund my habits, and plan future events.
OP, This is kind of the main point here - other people are what make the game worth playing.
If it was just me and spacepixels I would have quit a long time ago.
But every time I log it I am checking in with the rest of my "fleet," catching up on the latest events and/or plotting to commit murder and mayhem upon some hapless fools (who all too often turn out to be better at it than I am.)
Start reaching out in game to other folks.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."
- Hunter S. Thompson
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
157
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Posted - 2016.07.06 03:14:20 -
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Satchel Darkmatter wrote:Hi all newbro here, I'm not a greedy person so for me amassing Isk is not something I feel like I need to do, I'm now upto around 3 million skill points and working on pushing my skills so I can get access to tech II modules in the various locations that my ships use, guns, shields etc. As a result I have a skill queue that's well over a month long and I now find that even tho iv only been playing for I guess 3 million+ skill points worth of time(3 months?) roughly that I am login in checking my mail and logging back out. This is the only MMO I have ever played and I have played a lot of them, where I don't wake up in the morning and look forward to logging in, I am waking in the morning and checking my phone to see if I can slot anything else onto my queue and that's it. Every now and then I log in and check the corp recruitment chat for potential corp homes but finding one that fits has been an epic nightmare, Corps either want a min SP that I do not yet have, or they want me to move out to null and mine, honestly if I am going to be forced to mine I would rather do it in Highsec where I can afk and watch a movie. I appreciate that once I finally find a corp with the criteria I need I will have more reasons to login, but in the mean time what makes you all log in, what are the little activities that fill your day in EvE, or are you like me and have nothing to do, or more accurately nothing compelling to do. Quote:I HATE, the skill point system in this game, it sounds amazing on paper but I think in practice it just demotivates players to login and that cant be a good thing.
TL:DR: Stop waiting for eve to play you, and start playing eve.
Eve is unlike any other game you have ever played, i can promise you that. Ive played many MMOs in the last 20 years and not one holds a candle to eve. However Eve caters to specific types of players. What you would think of as "hardcore". Players that play with very little rules and guidance from the devs. Players that are cunning and ruthless. Players that are tacticians, analysts... players that do ( sometimes excessive) metagaming. Eve is like playing chess for your life blindfolded in the middle of a battlefield with artillery raining down, jets strafing you, and a battalion of tanks rolling your way when your use to playing checkers against your 10 yr old nephew on the couch while watching the big bang theory.
Stuff just doesnt happen in eve, you make it happen. Players mostly control the environment rather than devs and AI.Eve requires you to make an effort to play it. It requires interaction. If you need to watch tv,read a book, write your memoirs while playing eve, etc then you arent playing it properly or its not the game for you.
There are many things to do in high sec: The event going on you can piggyback on someone else doing the sites if they are to hard for you. Show up kill a couple of frigs and cruisers, warp out and back in if it gets hairy, continue until the others complete the site, get some bounty isk and event credit.
You can mine, run anoms, do data and relic sites( exploration) , combat sites( exploration), go through some wormholes( exploration), do missions, pvp, etc. Its up to you to make an effort and yes this game is much better in a corp with people of similar interest.
You could join eve university and they will teach you many different aspect of the game class style. red vs blue and do high sec pvp, learn how to gank from a merc /wardec group. be a pirate in low sec, do sov warfare in null as well as much of the stuff you can do in highsec, become a trader. Lots to do. Also there is a lot of corps that will take you with 3 mil SP. I was living in null at 1.5 mil sp. I just created a new character with about 1.5 mil sp and he can do loads of stuff and none of it is mining.
This game requires ambition, if you have none, you are not going to get anywhere or have any fun. You are also not going to market yourself well with" i can only bother to log in to add skills to queue"... you sound like a burned out vet but without all the experience that makes them somewhat marketable.
The most interesting thing in this game is pvp, it is what the game is centered around, especially null pvp. That is where all the action is, where all the thrill is. PVE in Eve is just a necessary function to make the game playable for pvpers without making it battleground style.
Eve players arent people who use google, eve players are people who INVENT google.They create, so get your ass in game and create some content, and quit waiting for it to be created for you. Better yet get in game and destroy someone elses content. |
Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
241
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Posted - 2016.07.06 06:38:40 -
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At the moment, I'm sorta taking a break from EvE for other RL stuff, but I still log in sometimes to check Spectre Fleet to see if they have anything going out! Theyre a great group to PvP with!
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
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Kaivarian Coste
Beyond Imports and Exports
64
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Posted - 2016.07.06 07:07:07 -
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It's best to think of ISK as SP, since you can now directly buy SP with ISK. So if you're SP is too low, find different (and fun) ways of making ISK.
I generally live in low sec. The ISK is better, and the threat of PVP makes everything exciting. If you're bored in high sec, try moving to low sec. A low SP character can still run lvl 1 and 2 missions in low sec. You'll get paid more. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1418
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Posted - 2016.07.06 07:59:58 -
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Sometimes in Eve i feel like a fisherman. Saw a 10 day old Tengu in a lowsec belt, who left before i could get the covops docked and reship to murderwagon. So apart from the run of usual things there's also the promise of wrecking some player or NPC. Eve has been very kind to me lately.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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MyLoudVoice
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.07.06 09:33:17 -
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1/ Mine 1 cargo-load a day. Doesn't matter which ship or how efficient. Don't refine it (since your skills will be far from optimal). Just stockpile it till you have a bunch and then sell it. Use the market-graphs to determine a good moment.
Mining is also a good moment to read up on the Eve-Uni website (never been a member but I do like their site) in the InGameBrowser or so about some Eve-stuff. How do my guns work exactly? How can I do ....? This way you learn something new about Eve every day
2/ Set up at least 1 planetary Interaction (high-sec) on a planet with low tax custom office. You can set it up so it runs standalone for 1 week or so. If you have more : do 1 in the weekend, do 1 on wednesdays,.... It's a (small) steady income
3/ Fly to those green markers on your screen and shoot NPC's. NPC's are your main money maker in the beginning, I find. Also do missions. Make sure you put some effort in the skills to get more money out of them.
4/ do point 3 again :)
5/ I don't like corps. Usually set up heavily in favor of the officers and his friends. You pay tax and they pay themselves dividends out of the corps coffers.If you need it, join a learning corps like Eve-Uni. Otherwise set up your own and join an alliance (cost a bit but not an arm or leg)
6/ try out some new stuff you learned in point 1. |
Chewytowel Haklar
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
216
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Posted - 2016.07.06 14:29:39 -
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Eve is meant to be played in a way that pisses off everyone else. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Test Alliance Please Ignore
1191
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Posted - 2016.07.06 14:38:50 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Trader20 wrote:
Edit: Also Eve is meant to be played with a second monitor with Netflix/youtube on.
no , eve is ment to be played with a second monitor with another client on it
When I'm in full deployment mode, I have three monitors all running EVE clients.
And I wish wish WISH I had a fourth for jabber/discord.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2654
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Posted - 2016.07.06 14:54:23 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:In January I completed a special project to unlock all four Empire epic arcs at the same time ... I'm very interested in knowing the details of this 'Special Project'. I wrote a report for the german forum, but in a nutshell, grinding lvl1-lvl3 missions for the respective start agents' corps. Gallente I was already faction standing above 5 so I could directly start the arc. For Caldari I ran distribution missions for Expert Distribution using a Wreathe. For Minmatar blitzing lvl3 Brutor Tribe security missions with an Arty-Svipul (be careful with shooting pods of player chars in that corp). Same with Ministry of Internal Order in Amarr Empire (starting from lvl1 here).
I'm my own NPC alt.
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DaReaper
Net 7 Cannon.Fodder
2868
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Posted - 2016.07.06 16:27:53 -
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why are you waititng for t2 stuff before you actually play? you are doing it wrong. And by the time you get whatever random T2 thing you are trianing for, you will have no idea how to use it, and you will die. Undock and go play. If your corp is not helping you, leave it. Go join eve uni, Red vs blue, brave newbies, pandemic horde, hell there are tons of large corps that won;t care what your sp's are. And lots of small corps that feel the same. The issue is not eve, its you. Undock and play
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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