Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Kei Nagasai
X-COM Navy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 13:28:38 -
[1] - Quote
So, does anybody know any actual details about whats happening, or is the tiny paragraph on the updates page all we've gotten? |
|
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15440
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 13:52:03 -
[2] - Quote
All I want for Christmas is to make beautiful rainbow colors with mining lasers.
/c
GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà
Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'
Twitter/Instagram @Chribba
|
|
Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
949
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 13:57:06 -
[3] - Quote
Kei Nagasai wrote:So, does anybody know any actual details about whats happening, or is the tiny paragraph on the updates page all we've gotten?
Thus far that's all we've gotten. We do know there's some kind of hull polarizer mjodule for the Rorq which will basically make it and any barge in range more of less impervious to damage for a limited time (and also stop them from moving) presumnably so help can arrive, but there's no actually hard details around how any of that works.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
|
Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
949
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 13:57:58 -
[4] - Quote
Chribba wrote:All I want for Christmas is to make beautiful rainbow colors with mining lasers.
/c
I support #ChribbasRainbow Do you?
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
|
Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7601
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 14:00:11 -
[5] - Quote
Elenahina wrote:Chribba wrote:All I want for Christmas is to make beautiful rainbow colors with mining lasers.
/c I support #ChribbasRainbow Do you?
#MakeMiningGreatAgain
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
|
Regan Rotineque
The Scope Gallente Federation
412
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 15:40:00 -
[6] - Quote
Chribba wrote:All I want for Christmas is to make beautiful rainbow colors with mining lasers.
/c
I support this product/service
make it happen CCP
(adjusts pink feather boa)
note we need more accessories too
I want to look my best while mining
~R~ |
Jinn McKellin
The Scope Gallente Federation
17
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 16:07:51 -
[7] - Quote
I feel pretty, Oh, so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and bright! And I pity Any girl who isn't me tonight.
I feel charming, Oh, so charming It's alarming how charming I feel! And so pretty That I hardly can believe I'm real.
See the pretty girl in that mirror there: Who can that attractive girl be? Such a pretty face, Such a pretty dress, Such a pretty smile, Such a pretty me!
I feel stunning And entrancing, Feel like running and dancing for joy, For I'm loved By a pretty wonderful boy!
Have you met my good friend Maria, The craziest girl on the block? You'll know her the minute you see her, She's the one who is in an advanced state of shock.
She thinks she's in love. She thinks she's in Spain. She isn't in love, She's merely insane. |
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
75
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 18:26:58 -
[8] - Quote
OMG, still no 12 year olds whining how now it's gonna be impossible to gank a harmless miningship???
EVE IS DYING!!! |
Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
250
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 19:16:38 -
[9] - Quote
Hot pink skiffs, because you want your bullet sponge shot at! They will be shot at, if only to get rid of that awful tackiness.
A signature :o
|
Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7605
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 19:20:13 -
[10] - Quote
000Hunter000 wrote:OMG, still no 12 year olds whining how now it's gonna be impossible to gank a harmless miningship??? EVE IS DYING!!!
No one's whining cuz it's not going to be impossible.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
|
|
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
45
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 19:21:21 -
[11] - Quote
I still want either the orca or the rorq to be repurposed into a captital mining ship(not boosting). Or create a capital mining barge. I know there was a mention of the rorq getting drones... but that isn't what I had in mind. It is so silly that both the capital mining ships are boosters/support. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
558
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 19:57:29 -
[12] - Quote
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:I still want either the orca or the rorq to be repurposed into a captital mining ship(not boosting). Or create a capital mining barge. I know there was a mention of the rorq getting drones... but that isn't what I had in mind. It is so silly that both the capital mining ships are boosters/support.
Horrible idea.
Either some group (it would be nullsec cuz.....favoritism) would get mining capitals and destroy the market for everyone else or....
Everyone would get them and destroy the mineral market even faster.....Tritianium would be like 0.00000000000001 ISK each in either case.
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
|
morion
Lighting Build
100
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 20:19:14 -
[13] - Quote
Chribba wrote:All I want for Christmas is to make beautiful rainbow colors with mining lasers.
/c
CR 37
|
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
45
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 20:37:14 -
[14] - Quote
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:I still want either the orca or the rorq to be repurposed into a captital mining ship(not boosting). Or create a capital mining barge. I know there was a mention of the rorq getting drones... but that isn't what I had in mind. It is so silly that both the capital mining ships are boosters/support. Horrible idea. Either some group (it would be nullsec cuz.....favoritism) would get mining capitals and destroy the market for everyone else or.... Everyone would get them and destroy the mineral market even faster.....Tritianium would be like 0.00000000000001 ISK each in either case. uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS. Second, it would make item manufacturing cheaper. Cheaper ships and stuff could be good for the game because it lowers the cost of PvP. More people willing to do more = more action = more press for the game. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8254
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 21:24:31 -
[15] - Quote
Brigadine Ferathine wrote: Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS.
WTB Highsec Rorqual.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
|
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
578
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 21:36:42 -
[16] - Quote
Brigadine Ferathine wrote: uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS.
You mean just the Orca right?
Rorqual cannot enter highsec and so far, no one from CCP has suggested that will be changing. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6250
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 21:58:45 -
[17] - Quote
CCP have been teasing us with Rorqual changes literally for years now.
It is a big internal joke, on us.
The hinted changes are also a joke.
You can search for posts by me with the keyword Rorqual to find any relevant thread.
Like this:
Rorqual Down Under New "Fighter-size" Mining Drone teased? Rorqual hope? CCP pls |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
45
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 22:46:39 -
[18] - Quote
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote: uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS.
You mean just the Orca right? Rorqual cannot enter highsec and so far, no one from CCP has suggested that will be changing. I thought they both could? |
Mackenzie Hawkwood
Event Horizon Expeditionaries Apocalypse Now.
52
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 23:02:49 -
[19] - Quote
Yes it is a Joke called CCP Fozzie, He hates off grid boosts but cant get rid of them until he 'fixes' the Rorq. His latest thought bubble was to force the Rorq to sit in belts to provide on grid boosts, offset by having mining fighters and a 5 min 'I win button' while the rorq pilot screams for help. As a previous post linked, these ideas were brought up at EDU, myself and others did discuss with the dev's present that it was a stupid idea. No Rorq pilot will voluntary sit in a belt and act as a loot pinata for a roving gang.
Why a switch on/off?
Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying.
In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless.
Simple as that. - Kina Ayami
|
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8257
|
Posted - 2016.07.06 23:16:18 -
[20] - Quote
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote: uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS.
You mean just the Orca right? Rorqual cannot enter highsec and so far, no one from CCP has suggested that will be changing. I thought they both could?
See what you get when you go and start "thinking".
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
|
|
Crinnfika
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 00:01:45 -
[21] - Quote
Brigadine Ferathine wrote: uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS. Second, it would make item manufacturing cheaper. Cheaper ships and stuff could be good for the game because it lowers the cost of PvP. More people willing to do more = more action = more press for the game.
Lower PvP cost will increase the amount of PvP, when PvP increases the amount of ships being destroyed increases, more ships being destroyed means more ships that need to be replaced, the more ships that need to be replaced the bigger the demand for minerals to make them, the bigger the demand for minerals the higher the price of minerals goes, the higher the price of minerals the more expensive ships are.
There is a reason that mineral costs are (relatively) constant. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
559
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 01:44:50 -
[22] - Quote
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:I still want either the orca or the rorq to be repurposed into a captital mining ship(not boosting). Or create a capital mining barge. I know there was a mention of the rorq getting drones... but that isn't what I had in mind. It is so silly that both the capital mining ships are boosters/support. Horrible idea. Either some group (it would be nullsec cuz.....favoritism) would get mining capitals and destroy the market for everyone else or.... Everyone would get them and destroy the mineral market even faster.....Tritianium would be like 0.00000000000001 ISK each in either case. uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS. Second, it would make item manufacturing cheaper. Cheaper ships and stuff could be good for the game because it lowers the cost of PvP. More people willing to do more = more action = more press for the game.
1. Unless you know about some change to the Rorqual it connot be used in highsec.
2. A budding miner in a venture is going to be in one sorry state of affairs when the mineral market is crushed by cheap minerals from capital class ships.
3. And most importantly the game is built around the concept of 'risk vs reward', if you start removing the risk you will inevitable start crushing the reward, both in terms of ISK as well as the feeling of victory (since part of that feeling comes from knowing the other guys lost something they cannot cheaply replace).
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
|
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
579
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 02:27:19 -
[23] - Quote
Crinnfika wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote: uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS. Second, it would make item manufacturing cheaper. Cheaper ships and stuff could be good for the game because it lowers the cost of PvP. More people willing to do more = more action = more press for the game.
Lower PvP cost will increase the amount of PvP, when PvP increases the amount of ships being destroyed increases, more ships being destroyed means more ships that need to be replaced, the more ships that need to be replaced the bigger the demand for minerals to make them, the bigger the demand for minerals the higher the price of minerals goes, the higher the price of minerals the more expensive ships are. There is a reason that mineral costs are (relatively) constant. What?
If lower costs would increase pvp, why isn't everyone out facing off in rookie ships?
The cost of ships doesn't reduce the amount of pvp. It's ego driven. It's much more personal a decision ingrained in personality.
1 Titan loss is upwards of 100 billion ISK, yet people put them into fights weekly. Other supers and regular capitals even moreso. That has more to do with the people than it does with the cost to build/replace ships. |
Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
955
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 10:58:43 -
[24] - Quote
Crinnfika wrote:
Lower PvP cost will increase the amount of PvP, when PvP increases the amount of ships being destroyed increases, more ships being destroyed means more ships that need to be replaced, the more ships that need to be replaced the bigger the demand for minerals to make them, the bigger the demand for minerals the higher the price of minerals goes, the higher the price of minerals the more expensive ships are.
There is a reason that mineral costs are (relatively) constant.
Cost may motivate some people when it comes to PvP, but the real fact is, people who want to PvP will, no matter how much it costs, and the people who don't want to won't, even if ships cost roughly the same as a T1 drone.
It's not like it's hard to make money in this game.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
|
Anthar Thebess
1607
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 11:37:15 -
[25] - Quote
Mining can be easily fixed. What it needs, are mining links working like any other links. Mining lasers working similar way to siege, and triage - you are sitting still without ability to warp off, but you get ehp boost.
Stop discrimination, help in a fight against terrorists
Show your support to The Cause!
|
Memphis Baas
1682
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 11:46:14 -
[26] - Quote
Mining doesn't need to be fixed.
Mineral prices are stable, and there is no shortage of ships or modules, so clearly enough asteroids get mined to support the economy and all the PVP we're currently doing.
As far as balance goes, it's just about perfect. |
Anthar Thebess
1607
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 12:48:19 -
[27] - Quote
Memphis Baas wrote:Mining doesn't need to be fixed.
Mineral prices are stable, and there is no shortage of ships or modules, so clearly enough asteroids get mined to support the economy and all the PVP we're currently doing.
As far as balance goes, it's just about perfect. It needs to be less afk. Maybe some UI that will force you to re aim your mining laser on the rock, or mineral in the rock.
Stop discrimination, help in a fight against terrorists
Show your support to The Cause!
|
Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
511
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 14:44:04 -
[28] - Quote
Prediction:
-AFK mining will still be going, CCP wouldn't hit their own subscription rates by making mining such an effort that you can't multibox it.
-Rorqual will become a capital class mining vessel providing on grid support while hauling some nice yield itself. They will become the new AFK Carriers of Nullsec.
-Mining Boosts will be removed from the game, all existing mining ships will be buffed to compensate for it, and Exhumers will be buffed even further and more differentiated again to give solo-account miners a decent income, but make it very stressfull to multibox these high yield ships.
And if you're mining in nullsec and play the big mineral game i don't know why you'd ever give a **** about jita market prices for minerals. It's effort to haul your ore to Jita, then sell it in an area of space where it has a lower value because of lower refinery yields and would have to get exported into nullsec again by the buyer to actually make sense but, oh, well, they could just mine themselves down there and/or buy from local market. All Jita is useful for is selling Zyd / Mega / Morph to the highsec people. |
Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
6
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 16:40:35 -
[29] - Quote
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:I still want either the orca or the rorq to be repurposed into a captital mining ship(not boosting). Or create a capital mining barge. I know there was a mention of the rorq getting drones... but that isn't what I had in mind. It is so silly that both the capital mining ships are boosters/support. Horrible idea. Either some group (it would be nullsec cuz.....favoritism) would get mining capitals and destroy the market for everyone else or.... Everyone would get them and destroy the mineral market even faster.....Tritianium would be like 0.00000000000001 ISK each in either case.
Perhaps you don't understand how economics works, if tritanium was 0.00000000000001 ISK all the other minerals would plummet to, meaning the relative price of nearly everything in eve would be lower and therefore relatively speaking, the value of isk itself would be different. It would destroy the mineral market for speculators, for everyone else the price of fish will be the price of fish, if someone builds a BS that now only costs 10 mill to produce, they can sell that at say 15-20 mill, all of a sudden everyone and their mum will be pvp'ing like crazy as rat bounties remain static. A mineral price crash might be what high sec needs to get people seeing more of eve. Has it every occurred to you that active players in eve has fallen due to rising prices and therefore the rise in PLEX prices, more people used to pay 440 mill for 90 days game time back in the day when online players could hit 40-50K continuous a day, mineral prices were much lower, Trit was like 1.6-1.8 isk a unit.
Add to this the price of PI won't change much, neither would moon goo materials, nor salvage. Minerals are not the only goods that contribute to production.
Why shouldn't capital mining ships be a thing? You can mine hulls with anti-matter/fighters already using dreads and carriers, there is no larger end game for miners other than creating a billion-gajillion mining alts. |
Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
6
|
Posted - 2016.07.07 16:43:48 -
[30] - Quote
Crinnfika wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote: uhhhh no. why wouldn't they be usable in highsec? Rorqs and orcas are usable in HS. Second, it would make item manufacturing cheaper. Cheaper ships and stuff could be good for the game because it lowers the cost of PvP. More people willing to do more = more action = more press for the game.
Lower PvP cost will increase the amount of PvP, when PvP increases the amount of ships being destroyed increases, more ships being destroyed means more ships that need to be replaced, the more ships that need to be replaced the bigger the demand for minerals to make them, the bigger the demand for minerals the higher the price of minerals goes, the higher the price of minerals the more expensive ships are. There is a reason that mineral costs are (relatively) constant.
This dude does economics
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |