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Tamdeius
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.07.07 12:41:11 -
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Hey Guys, New player hereGǪ.
I am looking for an LGBT Community,
In game chat I was directed to sniggerdly.com.
But according to the website, sniggerdly is one of the largest communities in EVE with hundreds of members. I am apprehensive about that big of a community, especially being new to the game. Does anyone know of a smaller group around 20 to 50 members or so?
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
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Memphis Baas
1682
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Posted - 2016.07.07 13:49:59 -
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Nevermind, sorry. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
451
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Posted - 2016.07.07 14:53:04 -
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We don't segregate ourselves based on sexuality, religious beliefs, veganism or anything else.
Just play and enjoy the game, you're not special.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16683
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Posted - 2016.07.07 15:06:50 -
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i do not believe that anyone here gives a **** about your sexuality, that said i found this, granted it s fairly old but might still be of some use to you. regardless , good luck in your searches and welcome aboard
Better the Devil you know.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
293
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Posted - 2016.07.07 15:15:20 -
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Echoing what was already said, I've played this game for years and have yet to meet anyone who cares one way or another about someone's sexuality/beliefs/etc IRL. It's fairly irrelevant to players one way or the other (which is a great positive step for tolerance/acceptance/etc, IMO) |
Tao Dolcino
EVE University Ivy League
519
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Posted - 2016.07.07 15:28:24 -
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I don't see what's wrong with joining a large community, by the way : you will be faster in contact with helpful people and will have more opportunities to learn and attend fleets or whatever you want to do in EVE.
Edit : unless their gameplay or time zone are not compatible with yours, of course.
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10181
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Posted - 2016.07.07 16:13:43 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:We don't segregate ourselves based on sexuality, religious beliefs, veganism or anything else.
Just play and enjoy the game, you're not special.
This.
Also... quick warning; people in this game are equal opportunity asshats. We make fun of everyone and anyone for any reason. That said... the one thing everyone here will ruthlessly single you out for is if you start exhibiting "entitlement" (see: "Because I am X that means I deserve Y!!")
So leave your "thin" skin suit at home and prep your cheeky comebacks. :)
How did you Veterans start?
The Mustache and Beard Thread
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
162
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Posted - 2016.07.07 17:36:16 -
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No one here really cares about things like that. Nor do we need to know your sexual preference as it is completely irrelevant to the game. The most important thing is you DONT make a big deal out of such things. Also you need thick skin. If you are easily offended, eve is not for you or any MMO for that matter. We pick on each other about various things, its perfectly normal and everyone experiences it.
What alliances/corps care most about are going to be if you are active and if you are going to contribute something to the corp/alliance. The only other relevant things are what time zone you live in and what languages you are proficient in understanding. |
Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2302
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Posted - 2016.07.07 19:32:50 -
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If someone could direct me to the half Cherokee, half Norwegian bipedal hairless llama thread, I'd appreciate it.
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Evi Polevhia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Wrecking Machine.
1228
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Posted - 2016.07.07 20:14:57 -
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Speaking as a member of the previously mentioned group (though it's no business of anyone else where I am in there), just make friends with cool people. I've been in many groups in my life all centered around different ideals and goals.
The group I fly with now has been together for years. Our definition of self is having fun. And by that we thrive. This is a game and to focus on anything else is to miss the point. Activist groups belong in government halls and college campuses. |
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Paranoid Loyd
9208
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Posted - 2016.07.08 16:57:44 -
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Confirming we're all equal opportunity killers.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10191
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Posted - 2016.07.09 03:59:17 -
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I should probably also address this as it is a common newbie question... and a good one at that.
Tamdeius wrote:Does anyone know of a smaller group around 20 to 50 members or so? Not off the top of my head.
Generally speaking... the smaller, more "cozy" corporations generally do not advertise themselves. They simply do what they enjoy doing.
So here is the question of the day OP; what do you want to do?
This question will decide where you will go hunting for people who have a similar game mentality and/or general community you wish to join.
For example:
Do you want to get involved primarily with PvP? - Take a look at Faction Warfare. Basically you become an "old school" privateer and play capture the flag for star system control.... but with guns and missiles. - Build a good amount of currency, research some ships you want to try attacking other players in (hint: stick with small, cheap stuff), move it close to low-security space (0.4 to 0.1 systems), fit everything up, and blitz through low-sec. Attack anything that moves. - Join a Merc alliance and learn from people with lots of experience. Offer a helping hand as much as you can. Be their "meatshield."
If you do any or all of the above (hint: none of them are mutually exclusive) enough times and talk to the people who blast you to pieces (hint: ask them questions on how you can improve) you may be invited to fly with them.
How did you Veterans start?
The Mustache and Beard Thread
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1507
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Posted - 2016.07.09 04:19:37 -
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I just want to second what has been said here already. The sooner that you let go of all the titles that have been placed on you by yourself or by others IRL the sooner you can enjoy this game.
Firstly this is an RPG (Role Playing Game) and as such the character that you play in game and who you are in real life can often be polar opposites. There are people that IRL are some of the nicest people that you will meet and in this game are low down filthy pirates. There are men that play as if they are women and I'm sure there are women pretending to be men. I bet there are strait people pretending to be gay and gay people pretending to be strait. Who you are in real life and who you are in game need not have any similarity to each other.
Further like has already been said in Eve you are not special. You are just another pilot to shoot at or fly with. No one gives a crap what your sexual proclivities are unless it grants them some type of upper hand in game. If you are easily offended by words there are people in this game who will say what ever they think will get you flustered and loose your cool and make stupid moves in a fight. If you flaunt hot button topics that can get you worked up with a simple phrase then that can and will be used against you in the heat of battle but not because anyone really cares one way or the other.
TLDR; Just play the game and have fun and find others that you like playing with. No one really cares who you are IRL or who you cuddle up with when you log out of the game. |
Mu'ad Diib
Nul-Bridge Industrial Technologies
149
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Posted - 2016.07.09 06:56:37 -
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I think I probably understand the rationale of why you're asking this (since I have quite a few friends who are on social media/play MMORPGs who are in the community and have experience online prejudice) and I guess it stems from looking for a supportive environment to have fun in.
I think what's been said by several other people here, is, generally speaking, true of Eve, eg: that there is very little in the way of homo, bi or trans phobia. Whilst it's true that I have, on occasion, come across some prejudiced attitudes in Eve chat channels, this is generally rare (or at least people being silly enough to vocalise attitudes like this is).
I think the comment that I mostly empathise with is the one written by Evi Polevhia. Like her I tend to play with people who are cool and that I have fun with.
You will find characters (people) in Eve who are vile, nasty, prejudiced and sociopathic, I regard these people as the Sith. If you avoid them and look to play with people who are full of light, life and who are cool and fun (in effect, the Jedi) you'll have a great time in the game, irrespective of the RL nature of the people who are behind the characters.
For a newbie, security status can be indicative of how inherently 'good' or 'bad' people are. This is not to say that I've not met people with negative ratings who are trustworthy and/or nice and who have been helpful, but tread very carefully. If someone has a positive security rating it might indicate that they're a bit friendlier, although because people have multiple characters, still be very cautious at first.
If you do start getting harassed, file a petition and block the offenders from contacting you. Life is way too short to put up with bigots and idiots.
Good, trustworthy people are out there though, and we can always use more classy friends, search and you will find us.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
When I die, all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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Demica Diaz
SE-1
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Posted - 2016.07.09 09:01:23 -
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LGBT? |
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
5854
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Posted - 2016.07.10 03:35:37 -
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If you are asking this because you've experienced prejudice in other MMOs or online games (Call of Duty and World of Warcraft being particularly bad), EVE is different.
In my experience the only communities that are seriously prejudiced against LGBT people (or other groups like people of colour) are corporations that make a career in highsec and try to avoid combat (miners, missioners and the like).
This isn't saying that everyone in those corps are prejudiced, but that a large percentage of them will drop all sorts of prejudiced slurs and I assume that people that use homophobic slurs are quite homophobic.
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If you are asking because you want to use EVE as a vehicle to get to know more LGBT people in your area - it's probably not going to work that way as EVE players tend to group up based on shared in-game interests, not shared out-of-game interests.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Mu'ad Diib
Nul-Bridge Industrial Technologies
151
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Posted - 2016.07.10 10:04:57 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote: ... In my experience the only communities that are seriously prejudiced against LGBT people (or other groups like people of colour) are corporations that make a career in highsec and try to avoid combat (miners, missioners and the like).
This isn't saying that everyone in those corps are prejudiced, but that a large percentage of them will drop all sorts of prejudiced slurs and I assume that people that use homophobic slurs are quite homophobic. ...
Sabriz Adoudel is a pilot who is on a confirmed list of known gankers (pilots who choose to attack and destroy unarmed miners and unarmed ships, often ensuring their own destruction at the hands of Concord in the process [what is know as suicide ganking] for fun and amusement). As such any statement that she makes should be regarded cautiously and not taken at face value.
The reason she has made this slur high sec pilots and to quote, "miners, missioners and the like" because she is, and plays as, one of the afore mentioned gankers (read: Sith) a group of people in Eve who are dedicated to playing and acting in an often vile, nasty, prejudiced and sociopathic and/or misanthropic way.
Contrary to what she has written, it is simply the stuff of fiction to suggest that, somehow, a group of players who don't indulge in this sociopathic and vicious gameplay have a brooding reservoir of homophobic attitudes. The irony of course is that the the reverse is actually the case, and whenever I've had dealings with gankers I have always encountered retrograde, sexist, homophobic, prejudiced, sociopathic, misanthropic attitudes, not in every pilot, but enough to convince me that there is a huge number of nasty people who lurk in their ranks.
Interestingly, gankers often joke about 'tear collecting' and about how their victims are 'butt hurting', the first is a clear sociopathic/misanthropic attitude, the other is a homophobic sexual reference. I've never heard a miner ever indulge in this or any similar behaviour.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
When I die, all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
5855
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Posted - 2016.07.10 13:13:59 -
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Mu'ad Diib wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote: ... In my experience the only communities that are seriously prejudiced against LGBT people (or other groups like people of colour) are corporations that make a career in highsec and try to avoid combat (miners, missioners and the like).
This isn't saying that everyone in those corps are prejudiced, but that a large percentage of them will drop all sorts of prejudiced slurs and I assume that people that use homophobic slurs are quite homophobic. ... Sabriz Adoudel is a pilot who is on a confirmed list of known gankers ( pilots who choose to attack and destroy unarmed miners and unarmed ships, often ensuring their own destruction at the hands of Concord in the process [what is know as suicide ganking] for fun and amusement). As such any statement that she makes should be regarded cautiously and not taken at face value. The reason she has made this slur high sec pilots and to quote, " miners, missioners and the like" because she is, and plays as, one of the afore mentioned gankers (read: Sith) a group of people in Eve who are dedicated to playing and acting in an often vile, nasty, prejudiced and sociopathic and/or misanthropic way. Contrary to what she has written, it is simply the stuff of fiction to suggest that, somehow, a group of players who don't indulge in this sociopathic and vicious gameplay have a brooding reservoir of homophobic attitudes. The irony of course is that the the reverse is actually the case, and whenever I've had dealings with gankers I have always encountered retrograde, sexist, homophobic, prejudiced, sociopathic, misanthropic attitudes, not in every pilot, but enough to convince me that there is a huge number of nasty people who lurk in their ranks. Interestingly, gankers often joke about 'tear collecting' and about how their victims are 'butt hurting', the first is a clear sociopathic/misanthropic attitude, the other is a homophobic sexual reference. I've never heard a miner ever indulge in this or any similar behaviour.
The reason I made that comment is because it is true.
Decent people don't call someone a "n***** f**" (that's one racist and one homophobic slur if it's not obvious) even if they are angry at them. (They might swear at them but not throw around RL slurs).
The number of times I've been called something like that by a, um, client is extraordinary.
By contrast I've not encountered anything like that despite often being on voice comms with other gankers, not even when someone screws up really badly.
My only experience with null entities has been on the periphery of Goonswarm, who seem mostly inclusive but do have a small minority of homophobes. But I'm not actually certain of the culture there because I've never been a member.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Tamazaki
Suddenly Noodles
41
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Posted - 2016.07.10 14:18:57 -
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Tamdeius wrote:I am looking for an LGBT Community, In game chat I was directed to sniggerdly.com.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10199
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Posted - 2016.07.10 16:26:01 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:The reason I made that comment is because it is true.
... (snip) ...
By contrast I've not encountered anything like that despite often being on voice comms with other gankers, not even when someone screws up really badly. Confirming.
In my humble experience, I have seen more non-facetious vitriol and anger coming from so-called "peaceful" / "pacifist" players than from players who actively hunt and gank others.
Sure... the players who hunt and gank are offensive in their own way (nothing is off the table to make fun of), but I vastly prefer it over people who says "I HOPE A DOG KILLS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND HAS SEX WITH THE CORPSES" (an insult I received some time ago from a miner I ganked) and actually mean it.
How did you Veterans start?
The Mustache and Beard Thread
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16766
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Posted - 2016.07.10 16:57:23 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:The reason I made that comment is because it is true.
... (snip) ...
By contrast I've not encountered anything like that despite often being on voice comms with other gankers, not even when someone screws up really badly. Confirming. In my humble experience, I have seen more non-facetious vitriol and anger coming from so-called "peaceful" / "pacifist" players than from players who actively hunt and gank others. Sure... the players who hunt and gank are offensive in their own way (nothing is off the table to make fun of), but I vastly prefer it over people who say "I HOPE A DOG KILLS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND HAS SEX WITH THE CORPSES" (an insult I received some time ago from a miner I ganked) and actually mean it.
yeah this is where you get abuse from generally. i was called a sociopathic bully last night by a war target for shooting him
i have rearly seen or heard any outspoken biggiots or racists here and those i have were largly because they were being ostracized and singled out for further "education" by the community.
Better the Devil you know.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1517
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Posted - 2016.07.10 21:16:15 -
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Either I am confused or this thread somehow got derailed.
The OP started by asking for some LGBT channels in game. Then a whole bunch of people started talking about nasty things angry people say when someone does something to them. Racist, Sexist, Homophobic attitudes and actions are when one person has a personal dislike for a group of people and acts on that dislike towards people of that group based purely on that person's being part of that group and having nothing to do with that person's actions. Meaning there is nothing that you can do as to change the bigot's mind he dislike "your type" and you could be the nicest person in the world and he/she would still have dislike for you.
You guys going off on a discussion about what people say to you when you do nasty things to them to make them angry not only has nothing to do with that but could be considered the exact opposite. I have friends of various racial backgrounds that I make racial slurs to them on a regular basis. Just because someone uses a racial slur does not make them a racist. You could never use a harsh or negative word towards anyone of a particular race in your life but if you won't let your daughter date one of them or actively try and keep that race from living in your neighborhood then you are a racist. Likewise you could never say a bad thing about an LGBT person in your life but if you won't shop at a store that is owned by someone of that community nor higher someone in that group etc... then you are prejudiced against them.
The OP can speak for his/her self but it seems to me that the OP was looking to talk to people within his/her own group so as not to have to deal with the prejudgments of other's outside that group, not wondering if he will get nasty language from someone he/she intentionally pisses off.
I had made my comment hoping to point out to the OP that within the context of this game ( much like any highly competitive game / sport ) people with say nasty things that they don't mean in an attempt to get under your skin and get you to loose your cool therefore giving them the upper hand. I had hoped this would free up the OP a little to look for an accepting group in this game while ignoring many of the comments / links posted in local when troublemakers roam through swatting at hornet's nests looking to start trouble.
This would be similar to back in grade school when someone wanted to start a fight with another person they'd make fun of that person's mother. Not because he really had any hatred for that other person's mother but strictly because he knew it would start a fight and a fight is what he was looking for.
Maybe I'm way off base here but I'm just trying to keep the thread helpful to the OP.
TLDR; IMHO there is a huge difference between prejudice and someone saying the most hurtful thing that they can think of just because they are angry at you specifically for something that you did or just saying hurtful things trying to start a fight. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10206
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Posted - 2016.07.10 23:14:27 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:The OP started by asking for some LGBT channels in game. Then a whole bunch of people started talking about nasty things angry people say when someone does something to them. That kinda happened after post #15.
Up until that point, I think people were trying to point out that it doesn't really matter what your race, religion, orientation, or creed you have... as long as you share a general mentality with certain people you will "fit in" with that group.
My personal comment (the first one) was intended to be a warning that regardless of where you end up... you may hear things that won't jive with what you think is right or "correct."
No matter what, you need "thick skin" in this game (which is something I sometimes have to remind myself every so often).
ergherhdfgh wrote:You guys going off on a discussion about what people say to you when you do nasty things to them to make them angry not only has nothing to do with that but could be considered the exact opposite. I have friends of various racial backgrounds that I make racial slurs to them on a regular basis. Just because someone uses a racial slur does not make them a racist.
... (snip)....
I had made my comment hoping to point out to the OP that within the context of this game ( much like any highly competitive game / sport ) people with say nasty things that they don't mean in an attempt to get under your skin and get you to loose your cool therefore giving them the upper hand.
This can be a bit tricky. And I understand exactly where you are coming from.
If someone calls you you a _______ offhand because you did something them to them... and you happen to be the group that the term is traditionally leveled at... there is a chance that you may take it personally.
Getting warnings or examples of context never hurts and can, in fact, help in the long run.
ergherhdfgh wrote:The OP can speak for his/her self but it seems to me that the OP was looking to talk to people within his/her own group so as not to have to deal with the prejudgments of other's outside that group, not wondering if he will get nasty language from someone he/she intentionally pisses off. I live in probably one of the more liberal places in the US. And in my experience... communities based on certain things can be equally fractious and have an innumerable amount of sub-groups that don't agree with each other on certain things...
... all due to mentality more than anything else.
Some want to be overt and outspoken. Some want to be subtle and cautious. Some want to be methodical but aggressive. Some want to be more technically correct and inclusive. And then there are the opposites of all of the above.
Knowing these things about yourself and the people you want to hang out with is more important than anything else.
I also hope that the OP finds a group that will take him/her in.
How did you Veterans start?
The Mustache and Beard Thread
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Tao Dolcino
EVE University Ivy League
533
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Posted - 2016.07.11 06:22:36 -
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In the other hand, the OP has not posted any answer, so maybe he's not even reading this thread and we all are jettisoning words into space, which, in some cases, is the best place
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1821
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Posted - 2016.07.14 23:48:00 -
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There used to be a channel called "lgbt". If you join that channel and its still active chances are very high you will find people that you feel comfortable joining, or if nothing else just a channel to hang out in, separate from whatever corp you end up joining
Phoibe Enterprises
The Eve Reader - Audio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Gnihctaw
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.29 14:58:30 -
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I almost got jumped by Sniggerdly once, now it has a whole new meaning.....
Sorry, I just had to go there....
Actually I should have known, they where flying with Purple Helmeted Warriors. |
Alebrelle Kuatu
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
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Posted - 2016.07.29 22:49:08 -
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Tamdeius wrote:Hey Guys, New player hereGǪ. I am looking for an LGBT Community, In game chat I was directed to sniggerdly.com. But according to the website, sniggerdly is one of the largest communities in EVE with hundreds of members. I am apprehensive about that big of a community, especially being new to the game. Does anyone know of a smaller group around 20 to 50 members or so? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Wow.
I am so very sorry that on this very active thread that noone has given you any consideration. Safe spaces are important, and I understand your desire to find one.
EVE is a little nicer than other MMOs as many have pointed out, but using that as the singular defense that your desire for a place to belong is invalid is weak and inconsiderate.
WiNGSPAN has at least one out queer (myself) and I hope to build that community. I am in touch with someone else who was in our alliance and am hoping to bring back in, and they know someone else who's in another corp.
I think I'll be making an in game channel for this sort of support, too.
Thanks for reaching out, and I'm so sorry that you only got pushback.
Feel free to say hi in game. |
Xirces
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.07.30 01:58:49 -
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Alebrelle Kuatu wrote:Wow.
I am so very sorry that on this very active thread that noone has given you any consideration. Safe spaces are important, and I understand your desire to find one.
EVE is a little nicer than other MMOs as many have pointed out, but using that as the singular defense that your desire for a place to belong is invalid is weak and inconsiderate.
WiNGSPAN has at least one out queer (myself) and I hope to build that community. I am in touch with someone else who was in our alliance and am hoping to bring back in, and they know someone else who's in another corp.
I think I'll be making an in game channel for this sort of support, too.
Thanks for reaching out, and I'm so sorry that you only got pushback.
Feel free to say hi in game.
Legit question, why do you need a safe space in a game where no one is going after you? I agree with most people in this thread. No one cares one way or another what your orientation is. Because of that, why exactly does anyone need a safe space? I'm left handed in real life, do I need a safe space because people IRL years ago make fun of people who were left handed (even though noone in EVE does?) Same thing, isn't it? Sexual orientation doesn't matter to EVE, what matters is how you can play the game. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
494
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Posted - 2016.07.30 07:21:19 -
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Alebrelle Kuatu wrote:Tamdeius wrote:Hey Guys, New player hereGǪ. I am looking for an LGBT Community, In game chat I was directed to sniggerdly.com. But according to the website, sniggerdly is one of the largest communities in EVE with hundreds of members. I am apprehensive about that big of a community, especially being new to the game. Does anyone know of a smaller group around 20 to 50 members or so? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Wow. I am so very sorry that on this very active thread that noone has given you any consideration. Safe spaces are important, and I understand your desire to find one. EVE is a little nicer than other MMOs as many have pointed out, but using that as the singular defense that your desire for a place to belong is invalid is weak and inconsiderate. WiNGSPAN has at least one out queer (myself) and I hope to build that community. I am in touch with someone else who was in our alliance and am hoping to bring back in, and they know someone else who's in another corp. I think I'll be making an in game channel for this sort of support, too. Thanks for reaching out, and I'm so sorry that you only got pushback. Feel free to say hi in game.
He didn't get "pushback" he got the truth. He stuck his head above the parapet and got the question he asked answered firmly but politely.
So I'll reiterate, nobody cares about anyones sexuality in this game as far as I've seen in the last 4 years.
As for you, stop trying to score ******* points by insulting everyone else who bothered to answer.
People like you are the sole reason issues and arguments arise.
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Alebrelle Kuatu
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
9
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Posted - 2016.07.30 07:33:40 -
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Xirces wrote:Alebrelle Kuatu wrote:Wow.
I am so very sorry that on this very active thread that noone has given you any consideration. Safe spaces are important, and I understand your desire to find one.
EVE is a little nicer than other MMOs as many have pointed out, but using that as the singular defense that your desire for a place to belong is invalid is weak and inconsiderate.
WiNGSPAN has at least one out queer (myself) and I hope to build that community. I am in touch with someone else who was in our alliance and am hoping to bring back in, and they know someone else who's in another corp.
I think I'll be making an in game channel for this sort of support, too.
Thanks for reaching out, and I'm so sorry that you only got pushback.
Feel free to say hi in game. Legit question, why do you need a safe space in a game where no one is going after you? I agree with most people in this thread. No one cares one way or another what your orientation is. Because of that, why exactly does anyone need a safe space? I'm left handed in real life, do I need a safe space because people IRL years ago make fun of people who were left handed (even though noone in EVE does?) Same thing, isn't it? Sexual orientation doesn't matter to EVE, what matters is how you can play the game.
It's not about the game, it's about the social experience attached to the game. If you would legitimately be hurt by people making fun of your left handedness, then -- yes; You do deserve that space.
In my own experience it's about avoiding conversations including the word "gay" as pejorative. Avoiding the term "**** cage" altogether, and plenty of other things that people will argue over and over again are harmless. They aren't harmless, and someone who wants to avoid that bullshit should be allowed to seek a space away from it.
Why anyone is bothered by others trying to find their own space is beyond me. |
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