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Mama ISK	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:47:00 - [1] Does anybody ever fly them? They donÆt seem to be useful at all. Are there any plans to make them useful? Maybe allow them to use gang mods and add 100% gang mods bonus? Maybe allowing people in logistic ship to lock others and repair shields or tracking links while in the same solar system and not necessarily in the same grid? IÆm looking for some suggestions as to how make them more useful. It just seems that itÆs such a waste of a ship.
XoPhyte Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:49:00 - [2] They are typically used in plexes, like 10/10 plexes and in those cases they are worth every penny! --- Siggy Starts Here--- Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Most people in eve would rather win than have a good fight
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:51:00 - [3] Edited by: General Apocalypse on 08/03/2007 19:47:26 1. Spaceing is your friend 2. They're great for running hellish missions & complexes . But they coud use a boost on they're bonuses since you can easyly outlogistic one of those ships simply by using a BS.
Nero Scuro Caldari Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.08 19:53:00 - [4] My 1mil Exequror can perma-run (well, until it runs out of 800charges) more than the equivelent of 2 T2 LARs. If I could get that for 1mil, why would I ever bother with a 20mil (for the ship alone) Oneiros? ___ Nice one CCP
Kartock Maar	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:05:00 - [5] Logi ships have many uses in many situations. Mission/complex running, sniper boosting, skirmish warfare tanking. It's uses are only limited by its pilots cleverness.
Faux' calor	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:08:00 - [6] Edited by: Faux'' calor on 08/03/2007 20:04:45 Quote: Does anybody ever fly them? They donÆt seem to be useful at all. Are there any plans to make them useful? Maybe allow them to use gang mods and add 100% gang mods bonus? Maybe allowing people in logistic ship to lock others and repair shields or tracking links while in the same solar system and not necessarily in the same grid? IÆm looking for some suggestions as to how make them more useful. It just seems that itÆs such a waste of a ship. isnt that every ship for that matter
Sphynix	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:16:00 - [7] Logistics seem to be great for a very specific purpose. Like a size limited 'plex that is really really hard and... stuff. Otherwise they can be outdone by the simple "bigger and more" approach with bigger ships. Maybe what is needed is BS sized logistic ships?
Haffrage Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Nero Scuro My 1mil Exequror can perma-run (well, until it runs out of 800charges) more than the equivelent of 2 T2 LARs. If I could get that for 1mil, why would I ever bother with a 20mil (for the ship alone) Oneiros? Oh, I don't know, why does anybody ever get a T2 ship instead of using a T1? Generally because T2 is better at what it does than its T1 counterparts, not to mention the tank ;p -----
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Haffrage Originally by: Nero Scuro My 1mil Exequror can perma-run (well, until it runs out of 800charges) more than the equivelent of 2 T2 LARs. If I could get that for 1mil, why would I ever bother with a 20mil (for the ship alone) Oneiros? Oh, I don't know, why does anybody ever get a T2 ship instead of using a T1? Generally because T2 is better at what it does than its T1 counterparts, not to mention the tank ;p The whole point is that its not much better --23 Member-- EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Mama ISK	Posted - 2007.03.08 21:43:00 - [10] Of course you can find other ships to do the same job, and cheaper too. ThatÆs my point. Why bother training and buying this expansive ship? ThereÆs no real upside to flying one, especially within a fleet. I never see them in space or in combat, so why bother having them in game at all? For mission running only? ThatÆs such a waste of time to train for it and isk to own. Either improve them and make them more useful orà donÆt bother training for them at all.
Siri Blue Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division	Posted - 2007.03.08 21:49:00 - [11] I just stumbled upon this thread...what I'll post now already has been posted in another thread but I thought it very fitting here so I hope the nice forum mods will allow it Originally by: Winterblink -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: zibelthurdos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- armor and hull rep modules should be limited to dedicated repair and logistics vessels. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And as much as I think RL to EVE comparisons are entirely ridiculous, for the sake of discussion I'm going to make one related to the quote above. In "RL", it's possible to perform at-sea repairs on vessels to a point. Engine damage, for instance. But major hull damage? Drydock time. Now I'm not suggesting that we all be forced to dock to repair our ships, but what's the harm in giving logistics a purpose? By far, they're the class of ships I see the least in this game, largely replaced by command ships and their bonuses. What if combat resulted in a certain amount of shield, armor, and hull damage that was unrepairable in space by repair modules on those ships, and could only be repaired in dock or by logistics ships? Maybe to do so would require some kind of supply (isotopes?) so suddenly being a roaming fleet meant you needed to maintain a logistics and supply chain to make sure your ships were kept in tip-top shape? Just some thoughts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The amount of "permanent damage" that can only be repaired in drydock or by dedicated logisics vessels had to be well balanced for the races that prefer armor tanking to not punish them too hard (you also could let some shield emitter curcuits burn out as a perma damage on shields as well when being hard hit)... All in all...I love the idea! I always found it idiotic that you could repair Armor and especially structure without any repair parts or costs.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.08 21:50:00 - [12] I use em. They're quite nice as tacklers too. ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;

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