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0Lona 0ltor
Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 22:52:00 -
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You will still get full insurance pay out for sucide ganks if you are shot at by NPC navy as well as concord. This is great for -10 like me as the navy will always arrive on seen before concord. SO if you are -10 and suciding in high sec remember to insure your ship at maximum.
The reason navy arrives before concord is because they are spawned by you simply being in high sec. Concord ahve to wait for you to commit a crime and go gc! |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.21 01:22:00 -
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So and? |
0Lona 0ltor
Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.12.21 01:27:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:So and?
So this is ace for suciders who were losing out unfairly on insurance payouts dettering them using battleships to gank. As long as they aquire npc agro first they can still insure their ships and recive no real loss to isk.
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.12.21 01:30:00 -
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My mining vessels are insured too..............
So?
Make ur point? |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2011.12.21 01:36:00 -
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Ace until they patch it because you are making a lot of noise about it. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) GÖÑ Inactive 21/12 unltil the new year, seasons greetings GÖÑ |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2011.12.21 02:24:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:My mining vessels are insured too..............
So?
Make ur point?
How much does hulk insurance pay out? How much does a hulk cost? |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.21 03:18:00 -
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I'm sure if you petition it, that CCP will mention its an exploit and then leave it unpatched for five years.
However, until you get an official answer, you're free to go ahead and cheat the system. |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2011.12.21 03:43:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Flurk Hellbron wrote:My mining vessels are insured too..............
So?
Make ur point? How much does hulk insurance pay out? How much does a hulk cost? He never said hulks! Obviously he's mining in Osperys Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.12.21 04:11:00 -
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Very interesting.
So the theory is, if there are NPCs on the KM (in addition to Concord), insurance is received?
I wonder if this applies to belt rats as well.....might have to experiment with this.
Possible to take some damage from belt rats, warp to a target, gank, and still get an insurance payout? Might be worth a few test runs. |
Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.12.21 05:13:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Very interesting.
So the theory is, if there are NPCs on the KM (in addition to Concord), insurance is received?
I wonder if this applies to belt rats as well.....might have to experiment with this.
Possible to take some damage from belt rats, warp to a target, gank, and still get an insurance payout? Might be worth a few test runs.
Nah, willing to bet that is is 'if only concord is on the kill, no payouts..otherwise pay it' So, having an accomplice with a warp scrambler to add his name to the mail... -- You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.21 05:55:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:You will still get full insurance pay out for sucide ganks if you are shot at by NPC navy as well as concord. This is great for -10 like me as the navy will always arrive on seen before concord. SO if you are -10 and suciding in high sec remember to insure your ship at maximum.
The reason navy arrives before concord is because they are spawned by you simply being in high sec. Concord ahve to wait for you to commit a crime and go gc! Working as intended.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.12.21 07:50:00 -
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Zedrik Cayne wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Very interesting.
So the theory is, if there are NPCs on the KM (in addition to Concord), insurance is received?
I wonder if this applies to belt rats as well.....might have to experiment with this.
Possible to take some damage from belt rats, warp to a target, gank, and still get an insurance payout? Might be worth a few test runs. Nah, willing to bet that is is 'if only concord is on the kill, no payouts..otherwise pay it' So, having an accomplice with a warp scrambler to add his name to the mail...
Well, having an alt shoot your gank-boat is a simple matter.....if its as easy as getting another name on the KM, its as easy as fitting an offensive mod on your scout/warp-in alt.
And that is good news. Tornado is VERY good for the ganking business, but Tornado + Platinum insurance. Wow. FREE MONEY - cuts the cost of ganking in half.
Going to test this out right now if I can find a lucky Exhumer.
I'm just wondering how exactly to get NPCs on the KM.
I know that mission runners and miners killed by salvagers often have rat damage on the KM.
Is is possible to take some damage from an NPC, warp, Gank, and that damage carries over to the Concord KM? Or does the NPC have to be shooting you when you are Concorded? (easy from Faction navy - harder from belt rats who are usually already busy with the target)
Going to play around with this.
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Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.21 07:54:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Zedrik Cayne wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Very interesting.
So the theory is, if there are NPCs on the KM (in addition to Concord), insurance is received?
I wonder if this applies to belt rats as well.....might have to experiment with this.
Possible to take some damage from belt rats, warp to a target, gank, and still get an insurance payout? Might be worth a few test runs. Nah, willing to bet that is is 'if only concord is on the kill, no payouts..otherwise pay it' So, having an accomplice with a warp scrambler to add his name to the mail... Well, having an alt shoot your gank-boat is a simple matter.....if its as easy as getting another name on the KM, its as easy as fitting an offensive mod on your scout/warp-in alt. And that is good news. Tornado is VERY good for the ganking business, but Tornado + Platinum insurance. Wow. FREE MONEY - cuts the cost of ganking in half. Going to test this out right now if I can find a lucky Exhumer. I'm just wondering how exactly to get NPCs on the KM. I know that mission runners and miners killed by salvagers often have rat damage on the KM. Is is possible to take some damage from an NPC, warp, Gank, and that damage carries over to the Concord KM? Or does the NPC have to be shooting you when you are Concorded? (easy from Faction navy - harder from belt rats who are usually already busy with the target) Going to play around with this.
I think participation in a battle lasts for fifteen minutes or until a session change, which ever is first. But if you are not permitted to be in a particular area of space where you are sui-ganking, the faction navy will follow you to your destination. With a Tornado, you probably won't get more than one shot. Also note, faction navies scram, jam, tracking disrupt, everything under the sun, so that can put a damper on your plans. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.12.21 08:16:00 -
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CCP fail |
Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
379
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Posted - 2011.12.21 08:38:00 -
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Isn't Brick a nullsec alliance? Why would CONCORD insurance matter to you unless...
Oh... Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
WIdot Director of Quality Control and Ironically Signing My Title to Posts To Make People ~mad~ |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
75
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:47:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:Isn't Brick a nullsec alliance? Why would CONCORD insurance matter to you unless... Oh...
lol |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:59:00 -
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suicide ganking is nothing to be ashamed of
unless you are losing your fights hilariously like brick is doing |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
439
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:19:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:So this is ace for suciders who were losing out unfairly on insurance payouts dettering them using battleships to gank.
Unfairly? You engaged in a criminal act fully aware that Concord would blow up your ship for it, and you expect insurance as well?
I'm all for ganking, but that's just stupid.
Remove insurance for self destructs as well.
edit: I suspect this will be fixed by denying all insurance payments while you have GCC. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
439
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:20:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:suicide ganking is nothing to be ashamed of
unless you are losing your fights hilariously like brick is doing I disagree. Never be ashamed of anything that results in hilarity. |
BuzzyBeagle
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:25:00 -
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this thread is the equivalent of someone finding a hole in the wall of a candy factory, taking one handfull then running around the entire neighborhood screaming " HAY GUYZZZZ THERES A HOLE IN THE WALL OF THE CANDAY FACTOREYYYYYYYY!!!!1" Eventually the guy that owns the factory will patch the hole in the wall and nobody gets candy....
Gratz....
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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:18:00 -
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Are you sure about this? I just checked my journal and don't see any insurance payouts except for a week after the patch when you would still get paid as you describe. Yeah, as an outlaw. Not sure if it was patched already or I've just been popping too quick to gate guns. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:40:00 -
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I think its more like bullshit tbh. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) GÖÑ Inactive 21/12 unltil the new year, seasons greetings GÖÑ |
Elyham
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:55:00 -
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It's BS.
I have been hard at work processing membership applications for the Mining Buddy Program and not once have I received a generous donation from the insurance company. A crying shame too since all I have to fall back on is the T2 salvage, faction modules, and named upgrades.
Sometimes it is tough being a public servant...
Elyham Director, Mining Buddy Program |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1074
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:15:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:suicide ganking is nothing to be ashamed of
unless you are losing your fights hilariously like brick is doing Brick is still fighting somewhere?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
83
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:29:00 -
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Well, I was planning on testing this, but the first Hulk I found was a 'repeat customer' that I had popped last week.
The brutalized Hulk Miner was obviously prepared for a gank, with a small cloud of Concord nearby, Small Booster pulsing, AND a Scimitar loitering nearby.
Helpfully, my Tornado explained the difficult concept of 13.5K 'volley damage' to them (again).
Unfortunately, didn't really have time to try to get my alt onto the KM, so will try it again soon...
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Thrawn Nostur
Impulsive Anarchy Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.12.22 02:12:00 -
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Insurance? What's that? |
BuzzyBeagle
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
53
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Posted - 2011.12.22 12:25:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote: Well, I was planning on testing this, but the first Hulk I found was a 'repeat customer' that I had popped last week.
The brutalized Hulk Miner was obviously prepared for a gank, with a small cloud of Concord nearby, Small Booster pulsing, AND a Scimitar loitering nearby.
Helpfully, my Tornado explained the difficult concept of 13.5K 'volley damage' to them (again).
Unfortunately, didn't really have time to try to get my alt onto the KM, so will try it again soon...
Herr Wilkus is pure awesome.
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.12.22 14:32:00 -
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BuzzyBeagle wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote: Well, I was planning on testing this, but the first Hulk I found was a 'repeat customer' that I had popped last week.
The brutalized Hulk Miner was obviously prepared for a gank, with a small cloud of Concord nearby, Small Booster pulsing, AND a Scimitar loitering nearby.
Helpfully, my Tornado explained the difficult concept of 13.5K 'volley damage' to them (again).
Unfortunately, didn't really have time to try to get my alt onto the KM, so will try it again soon...
Herr Wilkus is pure awesome.
Get your nose out of his bum please, it's unseemly |
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