Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Piscis Trust
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:38:00 -
[1]
So this strange story begins with me growing more and more bored with EvE online about 6 or 7 months ago. I saw this strange new world of warcraft as something new and exciting. I thought I should mosey on down to the store and check it out. At first glance it was great, besides some fundamental flaws It was loads of fun. But after a while the 'newness wore away and the lack of game play depth and idiosyncrasies made it fall out of favor. Meanwhile i hear tell that EvE has had two more major content upgrades and that if i simply pay CCP and renew my subscription, my character would be alive and well with all its assets and wonderful skills etc. ah HA! So i log into the trusty eve-online site and enter some credit card info and viola! i can log back in!
Enter teh suck.
To my horror I log in to find myself sitting at the bottom of the stain region, in my battleship which the insurrence has long sence lapsed on belonging to a noob corp. while trying to remember the user-interface and get my barrings i notice that the local chat is filled with people. Hostile people. I quickly warp to a SS and log off. I petition the gm's to please move me back to empire, sos that i have at least a fighting chance of raising the funds required to re-insure my ship as there is no possible way for me to make it back to secure space in a battleship in a noob corp. I'm informed in their all so polite doublespeak to basicly $&^*$ off. Now i know that some of you are going to say that this is what i get for leaving the game with a char sitting in unsafe space, and you may be quite right, but i cannot help but feel like im being wronged. I pretty much only have this uninsured ship to my name, and the whole appeal of coming back was not having to work my way back up from a cruddy frigate.
So I pose to you citizens of eve, do you agree with this ruthless do not move policy, or do you think that these kinds of obsticles will simply keep people from comming back who had lapses in their judgement and jumped on the bandwagon for more popular MMO's?
|
Star Fish
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:38:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Star Fish on 10/03/2007 02:35:12 sorry i accidentally posted this with my bank alt this is the real me!
sigs are lame. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:41:00 -
[3]
Ruthless? The GMs are not there to make up for you parking your ship in a bad spot when you leave for a while.
Hell, I left the game for a mere *month* and the station with my most valueable assets in it was taken over by a hostile alliance.
**** happens. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Cadela Fria
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:42:00 -
[4]
Pardon me but what have you been smoking?
CCP is a game company, not your local taxi service. If you want to get out of that area you either die and get podded, or you get someone ingame to help you out of there.
The job of a GM is to solve problems, not ferry your smelly arse around tbh. If you don't like their policy, then don't play the game. Thats your right as a customer.
Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
|
DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:42:00 -
[5]
bugging the GMs to move your ship is just stupid, i mean yeah it sucks. But they have more importaint things to tend to then you and your stranded ship. ______________________
Interested? |
James Duar
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:43:00 -
[6]
Stain? Isn't that full of NPC space? Dock, move your clone somewhere and pod jump.
|
Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:44:00 -
[7]
Rofl, of course theyre not gonna transport you across eve. Then everyone will be whining for free GM moves for every sissy reason they can come up with. -----
$Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++; |
Star Fish
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:49:00 -
[8]
Quote: Now i know that some of you are going to say that this is what i get for leaving the game with a char sitting in unsafe space, and you may be quite right
uhm I'm not quiet sure why I'm getting flamed. I even stated that I knew it was my own damned fault. And was just trying to see how people felt about the issue, and now im getting 'don't like the game dont play' and 'gms have better things to do'.
I guess thats another mistake thats 100% on me, trying to have a constructive convo with people on a forum.
sigs are lame. |
Ninjja
Minmatar Freeqs of EVE
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:51:00 -
[9]
Have you thought about re-docking and selling your battleship and flying out in a shuttle? or allow yourself to die after selling the BS. That way it wont be a total loss.
Eve is a strategy based game. Granted, we end up in situations we dont like, sometimes not our own fault. But a little thought goes a long way with Eve.
You ask the citizens here for our thoughts, try beckoning to some in game as well. Try you Race Channel.
Just some thoughts. Good luck!
|
Sovy Kurosei
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:52:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Piscis Trust I saw this strange new world of warcraft as something new and exciting.
She may look fun-BUT
- Fantasy MMORPGs
- "Pick up and play" online games
- WoW
Spread feelings of entitlement and disrespect from peers.
Link ___________________
Feel free to contact me in-game. |
|
Piscis Trust
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:57:00 -
[11]
yeah i have thought of docking and selling my ship, but i don't know if any of you guys are familiar with southern stain but the only station out here are the play-built kind :)
I suppose when i get home from work i.m going to make a mad dash towards the first npc controlled system i can find and get my self docked so i can escrow the ship and try to recoup losses, Just don't have a whole lotta faith that i will make it :P
|
Akoudoulos
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 02:57:00 -
[12]
Mate, i feel your pain
But you have to understand that CCP is not a taxi service, its not their fault that you left your assets there
What i suggest tho, the best option you have Dock to the station, buy a suttle, upgrade your clone, sell the bs and all other stuff that you have at the local market, it will get sold really fast do not worry, move to empire and start again to blent in eve
Gl
|
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 03:07:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Star Fish
Quote: Now i know that some of you are going to say that this is what i get for leaving the game with a char sitting in unsafe space, and you may be quite right
uhm I'm not quiet sure why I'm getting flamed. I even stated that I knew it was my own damned fault. And was just trying to see how people felt about the issue, and now im getting 'don't like the game dont play' and 'gms have better things to do'.
I guess thats another mistake thats 100% on me, trying to have a constructive convo with people on a forum.
People feel like flaming you for even considering this, that's how they feel. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Angry Alt
Amarr Imperial Academy
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 03:10:00 -
[14]
Even though you don't have insurance, all ships are insured by default at a basic level (40% IIRC). Self-destruct and collect the insurance, you'll have a good chunk of ISK to start anew with. Or make a run for it. Worst thing that happens is you get blown up and still get your insurance and have some fun in the process :)
|
Bohoba
Caldari Dragons United Pure.
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 04:13:00 -
[15]
ouch dude :) hope your clone is not in a alliace owend station you could be stuck for a while as you will not have acsess to move your clone I say run for it with your ship and Hey we got warp to 0 now so unless they are on the other side or a bubble up it should be a fun run to an npc station.
or ask for an escort out with the locals just a large war going on now so everyone is jummpy to pew pew first
Good luck and have fun
Get Into the Game it makes it fun for all |
Ash Vincetti
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 10:40:00 -
[16]
I'll try to be constructive here, and quote you the relevant tidbits.
Originally by: Piscis Trust
To my horror I log in to find myself sitting at the bottom of the stain region, in my battleship which the insurrence has long sence lapsed on belonging to a noob corp. while trying to remember the user-interface and get my barrings i notice that the local chat is filled with people. Hostile people. I quickly warp to a SS and log off.
Did you belong to ASCN? another alliance? a corp that disbanded? You mention that the insurance has lapsed on belonging to a noob corp - does that mean your corp was disbanded while you were away? that's why you can't dock in the station you used to? - Good call on Safespotting and logging, you did the smart thing there.
Quote: I petition the gm's to please move me back to empire, sos that i have at least a fighting chance of raising the funds required to re-insure my ship as there is no possible way for me to make it back to secure space in a battleship in a noob corp.
I'm sorry, what? It's not the GM's responsibility to hold your hand. Eve is all about choices. You made the choice to leave the game while in 0,0 space. If you wanted to be safe in the event that you returned to eve, you should have sold your assets and moved yourself to empire space just in case. The GM's are not there to fix your lack of planning and poor choices.
Quote: I'm informed in their all so polite doublespeak to basicly $&^*$ off.
They were polite to you, and told you that they couldn't move you. How is that doublespeak?
Quote: Now i know that some of you are going to say that this is what i get for leaving the game with a char sitting in unsafe space, and you may be quite right, but i cannot help but feel like im being wronged.
How are you wronged? Because the GM's decline to give you a free taxi service so your precious battleship isn't blown up?
Quote: I pretty much only have this uninsured ship to my name, and the whole appeal of coming back was not having to work my way back up from a cruddy frigate.
You have the skills to fly a battleship. Dock in a station and sell it, then pod yourself back to empire and buy a new one. Alternatively, if you can't get there, go ahead and self-destruct your ship, or fly it down the pipe during a quiet period and hope you can make it. If you get in trouble, fight back and go down in a blaze of glory. Even uninsured, a battleship would give you about 40M in the "Basic" insurance. That's more than enough to buy a battlecruiser + fittings back in safe space.
Quote: So I pose to you citizens of eve, do you agree with this ruthless do not move policy, or do you think that these kinds of obsticles will simply keep people from comming back who had lapses in their judgement and jumped on the bandwagon for more popular MMO's?
Yes I agree with this policy. No it's not ruthless. Your lapse of judgment was not to jump on the bandwago for another MMO, your lapse of judgement was in leaving all your assets in conquerable 0,0 territory, and expecting a free ride back. You haven't been wronged, and you haven't been mistreated. You have been treated like everyone else in this game, and that's how I expect the GM's to treat those kind of requests. ----- /ash Fancy Sigs are for Fancy People |
Tendai Keto
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 10:54:00 -
[17]
In EVE loss of ships and goods hurts. That why you came back or not ? To feel the thrill of risking it all. The thing that keeps you addicted to EVE.
So.. As someone stated already, we now have the warp to 0km option. That means an insta-jump on arrival at the gate So basicaly all you need to do is get undocked safely and start travelling. Unless the gates are camped on the side you jump to you should be able to get to empire safely.
Oh and welcome back matey :)
|
Nero Scuro
Caldari Jejaikaro Corporation
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 10:55:00 -
[18]
Haha, the exact same thing happened to me (I'd been gone around 8-9 months though). I log back in to find the station I was docked in belonged to someone else. I couldn't even use the fitting or insurance services, and knew if I undocked I couldn't re-dock.
I just waited to downtime and flew back to empire. It was both a nice welcome back to the hardcore death-penalty gameplay (got a nice adrenaline rush out of it) and a not so nice reminder of why I left in the first place - namely how I could fly an uninsured battleship 50 jumps through hostile space without support, a scout, WCS, I-stabs, an MWD or an AB and survive.
WTZ FTL.
*ahem* Anyway, you don't need GM help. Treat it like a challenge. ___
Nice one CCP |
|
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 10:56:00 -
[19]
WTB GM Transport to move my other capitals into Amarr.
Help me help you. |
|
James Potkukelkka
Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 11:39:00 -
[20]
Ask for a friend to scout for you, or make an alt and do it. I haven't seen a gate that is bubbled 23/7/30/12 yet. While nobody is looking, you can get anywhere. I once toured around the galaxy with a shuttle, and that was a time when we could only warp to 15km. -- Always trust the devs
|
|
Valkazm
Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 11:51:00 -
[21]
To much work imagine all the ASCN pilots comming back and finding there station gone especially with the free 7 day offer nowadays..
Step into the darkness |
Gwendolyne Croft
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 11:56:00 -
[22]
Well, CCP GM's should not move player out of hostile enviroments. If they start to do it, it will have a impact on the game. Why should CCP prefere players who stopped playing for a month, two month, three month or just a day?
I feel with you, but it was a bad decision to just leave the ship where you did. It was in your responsibilty and you made it.
|
Pan Crastus
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 19:08:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Cadela Fria Pardon me but what have you been smoking?
CCP is a game company, not your local taxi service. If you want to get out of that area you either die and get podded, or you get someone ingame to help you out of there.
The job of a GM is to solve problems, not ferry your smelly arse around tbh.
He's not asking for a taxi, he is asking for a service from the game company. But the retarded flaming trolls like you are those who made the game what it is, so it's no surprise that people who aren't totally addicted feel like they're getting a bad gaming experience.
But what can you expect really when your fellow players make insulting posts like these instead of giving a helpful, perhaps comforting answer?
|
Seb Tores
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 19:14:00 -
[24]
I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of ppl that are sick and tired of EVE...
If you donŠt like the game....quit If you donŠt like the game mechanics...quit If you donŠt like yourself...quit the game
Like someone said, CCP isnŠt "yellow cap inc"
Good deal youo figured out the other games are crap, but **** happens, things change, deal with it
|
Jack Target
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 20:05:00 -
[25]
HERE IS A SOLUTION IF CCP CAN'T HELP!!
Log on as soon as maintenance is finished at noon and either get to a station or the next safe spot.
In fact, try logging on before noon - they might finish early!
It's not a perfect, but it's a much more helpful and intelligent suggestion than the best these annoying trolls can manage!
|
Redpants
Gallente Dead Eagle
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 20:25:00 -
[26]
Ok man. Here's the scandal. You're going to have nothing you say? Hardly. You have a BS. You can fly it or sell it. Now you got double digit millions and a shuttle to cruise in. You make no mention of your wallet. Were you flat broke when your account expired? Even if you were you still have more than any newb coming out of the tutorial. You have your skills, and you have your know how. And as any kid of the 1980's knows, "Knowing is half the battle."
I have no sympathy for you. CCP is 100% in the right. They have no obligation to aid you, nor should they. Fly your ass back to Empire. You got SS's use them, you apparently know how to make them. You're not stupid, YOU ARE LAZY.
And you got balls posting about your so called issue when it boils down to nothing but wanting a free ride and a helping hand where none is due. _____________________________________________________________________ "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red." |
Gorek Loc
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 20:34:00 -
[27]
I only read the OP and the first few flames...
To the OP, I'd say this: Go to the Diplomatic section fo the alliance controlling the region and explain your situation. Unless you reaved havoc and flame when you were active, you will most likely get safe passage to empire, provided they do control the region. Apart from that, maybe you could join in on the 0.0 action and be part of an alliance controlling a portion of space. I recommend this, if you didn't already try this out!
|
Gealbhan
Caldari The Big Sky Corp
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 20:40:00 -
[28]
I dunno, if I was a GM and you explained the situation...I'd probably move you. I'm too nice, that's why I'm not a GM
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Concentrate all your fire on one target, when it is destroyed, move on to the next. That is how you secure victory". - Tactica Imperium. |
Sable Lowell
Gallente
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 20:45:00 -
[29]
Edited by: Sable Lowell on 10/03/2007 20:42:29
Originally by: Star Fish
uhm I'm not quiet sure why I'm getting flamed. I even stated that I knew it was my own damned fault. And was just trying to see how people felt about the issue, and now im getting 'don't like the game dont play' and 'gms have better things to do'.
I guess thats another mistake thats 100% on me, trying to have a constructive convo with people on a forum.
Umm, If it was your fault, then why do you feel that you're getting shafted? If something is your fault, as you admit it to being, then there should be no animosity towards someone else, since they had nothing to do with it. It's kind of like if you burned $1000 in cash, then went to the bank asking for $1000.
And what sort of constructiveness do you want? You have very limited option. You can risk your uninsured BS, you can sell it, or you can beg for safe passage (I would do that one, since you're already good at begging) thats about it. What it sounds like to me is you're just whining in hopes that someone will give you money for insurance and whatnot. Quit begging, and quit trying to blame others for your mistake.
|
Shantaram
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 20:46:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Star Fish
Quote: Now i know that some of you are going to say that this is what i get for leaving the game with a char sitting in unsafe space, and you may be quite right
uhm I'm not quiet sure why I'm getting flamed. I even stated that I knew it was my own damned fault. And was just trying to see how people felt about the issue, and now im getting 'don't like the game dont play' and 'gms have better things to do'.
I guess thats another mistake thats 100% on me, trying to have a constructive convo with people on a forum.
Star Fish does have a point though. CCP is a company first and foremost; a game operator secondly. Customer service should be one of their first priorities. If they want to lure more customers (= higher revenue) or old customers back then they should be willing to provide one free jump to get you back in the game. If Star Fish had known that he was going to come back in the situation he is in, he might have not bothered.
I agree that such a system is open to abuse, but not if you put controls on it. CCP can check a client's account to see if it has been reactivated inside the last few days and - if so - make an appropriate accommodation.
At the end of the day, we want to have an enjoyable experience and they want to make money. If their customer service representatives (= GMs) annoy the customers...
If it was any other business you would hardly question it.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |