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Shekels Foxholes
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Posted - 2007.09.29 14:53:00 -
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For purely high-sec mining, is the Gistii Type-A SSB really necessary? That will cost more than the rest of the Hulk and fittings combined. If I had to spend the money, I feel like I'd rather blow it on Cargo Optimization Rigs or something (and I'd rather not spend it at all).
If not the Gistii, will one of the other SSBs work (like the Type II 30/20) or should I go with something else?
3x MDSMII Eutectic Cap Recharger, SSB? 2x Expanded Cargohold II
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Balcura
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:43:00 -
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With that setup and ok skills you can run a tech 2 small with no issue (fitting or cap). The faction hardners and deadspace boosters are for high dam rats in 0.0 where you can replace the isk relitively easily.
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Lab Hotty
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Posted - 2007.10.08 14:51:00 -
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Any new updates on the latest setups? I own a Hulk now and am trying to figure out the best setup. (Empire mining)
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Captianhook
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:22:00 -
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Is there a build that will mean not having to spend a crazy 200mil on a small shield booster? Since they nerfed the drop rates on the Gistii-A Shield booster, does anyone have a *Cheaper* and *Nearly as Good* option that will not break the wallet of a player who plays the game simply to have fun and also hates ratting for 350mil worth of stuff?
I recently bought a hulk, and although not new to 0.0 mining, am new to Hulk Tanking in 0.0. I see the options that all require the Gistii-A, I am not adverse to jumping around belts a few times in 3 hours if I have to, but I would like an option that won't bankrupt a player who can only play for a faily limited number of hours a day (I have 10-hour college days).
Does anyone have a 0.0 Hulk tanking option that will tank *Most Spawns* but not break the bank on a 200mil booster?
My current and as yet untested hulk build: (Note rather limited skills, I have everything maxed out that I have skills for)
3x Strip Miner 1 2x Small Shield Booster II, 2x Rat Spec. Active Hardeners 2x Mining Laser Upgrade 1's 2x CCC rigs
I do not intend to tank every spawn, but does anyone have any improvements that will not break the bank? :D
Captianhook
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HunAmarrias
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Posted - 2007.10.09 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: HunAmarrias on 09/10/2007 09:19:14 Edited by: HunAmarrias on 09/10/2007 09:16:06 has anyone try that cases when 2 hulks mine together and tanking each other with med shield repair drones ( + the inside tank setup, perhaps)? Is would be effective?
I would mine in Sansha territory and i read these topic parts "ohh that sucks EM tank of the Hulk what can i do"... If the Hulk cannot tank Sansha spawns, i dont put some hundred mills on the faction tank stuffs but i mine under spawn keeping coverage BS and fit my Hulk for max yield...
what do you think guys?
(sry for my bad english)
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Serotta Ortot
Equilibrium Inc. FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.10.09 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lab Hotty Any new updates on the latest setups? I own a Hulk now and am trying to figure out the best setup. (Empire mining)
Empire I assume 1.0 to 0.5..? 0.5 will spawn some frigates, which don't hit that hard.
High: 3 x MSM II's
Mid: 1 x Ore scanner 1 x Cap charger 1 x Small shield booster II 1 x Rat specific amp (angels eg. explosive)
Low - there are two options: 2 x Expanded Cargohold II OR 2 x MLU (should fit with good skills, or you could even leave off the ore scanner)
Rigs: 2 x Cargohold Optimization I
I personally believe you don't need the CCC rigs if you have decent skills. Stagger the MSM's and your cap will hold. Don't believe me? I'll fraps my alt's Hulk in 0.0 mining without the CCC rigs
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Sellenia Boozebandit
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Posted - 2007.10.22 22:39:00 -
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When you say "stagger" the mining lasers, are you deactivating one and activating another per set amount of time? Or are you activating 1, waiting set time, activating second, more time, activating 3rd?
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Tolas
Caldari Aerthyrian Sovereignty
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Posted - 2007.10.30 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sellenia Boozebandit When you say "stagger" the mining lasers, are you deactivating one and activating another per set amount of time? Or are you activating 1, waiting set time, activating second, more time, activating 3rd?
activating 1, waiting set time, activating second, more time, activating 3rd
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.30 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Golden Druid Med: 1x Gistii-A Small Shield Booster, 1x Eutetic Cap Recharger, 2x NPC Specific Hardener.
I would agree with a small shield booster but I went T2, I would however take out the cap re-charger and slot in a shield resistance amp to back up the two hardners,
In the Lows I have 1 mining laser upgrade module and a PDS
lol? Have you ever flown this...? --
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Amagmemon
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Posted - 2007.10.31 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Serotta Ortot I personally believe you don't need the CCC rigs if you have decent skills.
Kind of a n00b question here, but which skills do are you refering to when you say 'decent skills'?
Thnks for your help.
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Shurikane
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Posted - 2007.10.31 04:04:00 -
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Here is the I-don't-pay-attention-to-my-EVE-screen-and-don't-wanna-get-ganked setup:
HI: The usual mining artillery.
MED: 2x sensor boosters, 2x ECM burst (or was it ECM omni? Ah well, one can dream. At least it'll shove away the pesky close-rangers.)
LOW: 2x warp core stabilizer.
Good enough for the miner who's too scared to lose his ship and yet, in a deliciously ironic twist, doesn't pay enough attention to his screen because he's looking up too much **** and notices only too late that a tackler ganker has arrived in the belt.
Oh by the way, this setup was field-tested with great success!
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Caffeine Junkie
Caldari The Ministry Of Funny Walks
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Posted - 2007.11.04 23:39:00 -
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Maximum Solo (i.e. no gang mate with Mining Foreman) Setup
Highs 3x Strip Miner II w/T2 Crystal
Mids 4x Whatever
Lows 2x MLU II
Rigs 2x Drone Mining Augmentor II
5x Harvester Mining Drone
Michi's Excavation Augmentor
Gives 6282m3 per cycle
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ferro1984
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Posted - 2007.11.27 09:14:00 -
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with 1 mil in engineering i can Purma run the following setup
3 Modulated Strip Miners Small Shield Booster II, Eutectic cap recharger, 2 Passive Hardeners 2 Cargo Expander II
This is more than enough for 0.5, not tried any lower, as for rats tho i cant see there being a problem apart from if they scram/jam you
Thanks
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Mona X
Caldari Polish Task Forces C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.11.27 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Mona X on 27/11/2007 12:08:55
Originally by: Amagmemon
Kind of a n00b question here, but which skills do are you refering to when you say 'decent skills'?
Energy Managment, Energy System Operation, Shield Compensation.
Originally by: Caffeine Junkie Maximum Solo (i.e. no gang mate with Mining Foreman) Setup
Michi's Excavation Augmentor
Without Highwall HX-2 it's not a maximum solo.
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Churizo
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Posted - 2007.11.27 13:59:00 -
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My setup;
High: 3x strips Med: scanner, Pithi A-Type; 2x Domination kinetic amps Low: 2 Carpo MLU's No rigs as of yet.
The Pithi is super expensive but well worth every penny. So far with this setup, I can tank up to 2bs and 3 cruiser rats indefinitely. Haven't tested against anything harder yet.
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Darqion Zenix
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Posted - 2007.12.09 11:22:00 -
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So are the cargo rigs and the mining drone rigs the only rigs really usefull for a hulk ? I have someone hauling for me, so the cargo rigs wont do me much good... i was just hoping there would be rigs for mining itself, instead of mining drones which i sadly see popped when i dont pay attention :p
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elbing1
An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:30:00 -
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For 0.0 to maxamize the tanking amount you can drop the cap recharger and use a cap rig or two. Using the spare slot for a rat specific hardner. With two cap rigs and good cap skills i can run 3 t2 strips (staggered), gistii a-type ssb, and 3 hardners with 2 MLU in lows. I found that i lost so many mining drones that the extra ore i got wasnt worth the price of replacing them.
For empire, seriously just do wtf you want. a single t1 small shield booster will tank all rats, and if u wanna PVP in a hulk against ore thieves you deserve to lose it. cargo expanders/rigs if u dont got 2 accounts otherwise MLU.
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Max Essen
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Posted - 2007.12.20 18:46:00 -
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For HiSec Mining I do the following.
Hi: 3 x SM II with T2 Crystals Me: 1 x ML-3 Amphilotit Mining Probe 1 x V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix 1 x Supplimental Scanning CPU with Script 1 x Small Shield Booster II Lo: 2 x Mining Laser Upgrade II Rig: 1 x Ancillary Current Router I 1 x Cargohold Optimization I Drone: 5 x Mining Drone I 2 x Hobgoblin II 1 x Warrior II 1 x Hornet II 1 x Acolyte ==================== High mining yeild, very low threat ... :) Obviously, not what I use for LowSec mining.
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Cedori
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Cedori on 21/12/2007 02:25:22 My Ninja-Mining Fit. This is for 0.0 mining when I'm basically farting around solo. Mine with 1 jump of a system, w/o a hauler. It's slow, but it's better then nothing.
Highs - 3X MSM 2's Mids - Small Shield Booster II, 2 Rat Specific T2 Hardeners, Cap Recharger II Lows - Mining Upgrade II, Expanded Cargohold II Rigs - 2X Cargohold Optimization I's.
If I'm mining, actually mining, I'll use a different setup, but this gets me 1) The tanking capability of the "standard" Hulk setup 2) a 13400 m3 cargohold 3) nearly the same mining yields as 2X MLU I's. . .
And does it for less then 1/100th the cost of the Gistii
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2007.12.24 18:10:00 -
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My perfered setup:
Highs: 3x T2 strip miners equiped with t2 crystals Med: 1x small sheild booster 1x invunerability feild 1x cap recharger II 1x survey scanner I Low: 2x MLU II Rigs: 2x Capacitor control Circuit I (optional though recharge cap rate like mad, strip miner staggering greatly deminished) drones: 5 Mining Drone II's 5 HobGob II's
Implants: slot 7 HX-2 Highwall 5% bonus to mining slot 10 Michi Excavation (if you have money to burn) 5% bonus to mining but $$$ slot 6 Gypsy KMB-50 3% boost to CPU of any ship.
The Gypsy implant is a practical requirement as this setup without the implant uses 2-3 more CPU points then the hulk can provide even with electronics at 5. You could have Mining upgrades leveled to 5 however even with all learning skills at 4 that is 22+ days for only a 5% decrease in CPU consumption from the MLU II's.
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Rens Proposition
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Posted - 2007.12.24 23:55:00 -
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Might have missed this in page 2, and if so, I apologize.
What would you all think is the minimum needed to perma tank low sec rats? I'm thinking 3 BC's at the most, usually 1 or 2 BC's with some frig support if I recall correctly.
I was thinking: 1x small shield booster 2 2x specific hardeners (explosive/kinetic for angels, etc) 1x named cap recharger
2x MLU's in the lows, or a combination with cargo expanders depending on if I feel like being more active.
Using 5 drones as protection, should I be able to fight back against the spawn while perma tanking all the damage? I'm guessing yes, but I'd love some experienced input on this...
Sorry for the slight hijack, but I figured it would be better to post here than a new thread :)
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Ashen Angel
Minmatar Bad Dog Digging Empire Research
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Posted - 2008.01.06 19:52:00 -
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I am looking at this as my empire miner (max bonus with groups) 2x Aoede Mining Upgrade I (or other named mining upgrades; can't quite fit mining upgrade IIs without implants or dropping the small shield extender)
Prospector Magnetic Scattering Amplifier High Noon Heat Dissipation Amplifier Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Small Shield Booster II
3x Modulated Strip Miner II
Ancillary Current Router I Capacitor Control Circuit I
the amps can be switched out as needed depending on where I am mining to be rat specific, but have to be named (and likely best named)
For my usual mining in empire I use my second hulk (this is going to be the new configuration versus my pure passive one which uses 2 named small shield extenders instead of the cap recharger and booster): 2x Expanded Cargohold II
High Noon Heat Dissipation Amplifier Prospector Magnetic Scattering Amplifier Cap Recharger I Small Shield Booster II
3x Modulated Strip Miner II
2x Cargohold Optimization I
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SirNose Devoidoffunk
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Posted - 2008.01.08 22:46:00 -
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hello where do i find the Gistii-A Small Shield Booster, 1x Eutetic Cap Recharger not in my region of space.if anyone can tell me where to look tks
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Andreask14
Alterum - Infinitus - Fabula Dragons Of Oceans
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Posted - 2008.01.08 23:49:00 -
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Deadspace equipment is sold via the Contract system. You can do a inter-region search with that.
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Halada
Caldari Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.09 03:33:00 -
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The one and only original setup works the best
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atrophocy
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bel Garan Fairly easy, since there's actually only one proper setup:
Hi: 3x Strip Miner II Med: 1x Gistii-A Small Shield Booster, 1x Eutetic Cap Recharger, 2x NPC Specific Hardener Low: 2x MLU
perfect. tried and tested. been in use for as long as hulks have existed. the only thing i'd add would be to consider some ccc rigs. you don't actually need them but it means you don't have to be as careful staggering your lasers and can boot them up when a rock runs out of w/e.
also, can't stress enough the need for the gistii A-type. it wont work with t2 or named. it's expensive, but it's worth it.
[for the record, TRI don't mine ]
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Jin Jura
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Posted - 2008.02.08 09:06:00 -
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Would a hulk be fine with a pith b type instead of a gisti a type? EFT says it tanks better, and cap is fine.
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derpsauce
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Posted - 2008.02.08 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: derpsauce on 08/02/2008 16:30:12 oops...nevermind.
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Ayn Galt
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Posted - 2008.02.15 07:57:00 -
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What is the Best High Sec Hulk Setup long term for a solo miner who has roughly 20 million SP?
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Chris31miller
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Posted - 2008.02.20 01:49:00 -
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I have no experience mining in 0.0 or lowsec with my hulk yet but .5 systems and higher. I use Pithi/Gisti (at work and not in game, can't remember) b-type small booster. They are just as good without the 200 mil price. picked mine up for 15 mil if I remember. I also picked up a c-type (once again cant remember if it was a pithi or Gisti) for 6 mil. They are out there just keep an eye on the contract. But on average run 15-25 mil for b and c types.
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