I hope your meaning of 'Jobby' isn't the same as my meaning of 'Jobby'. It would make that statement more than a little different, although still relevant.



Shame.

EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days.

CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to ***** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button...

Probably the biggest complaint I have is no centralized event coordination site. Or something that let's anyone in the game set a date for an event and then that gets added to the site for everyone to see. If I could just go there and read about what is going on and where that would be pretty cool. I mean the meat of this game is people planning things and then doing those things right?

EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days.

CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to ***** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button...

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EVE has two centralized event coordination mechanisms. The 1st is the calendar, which people can use to set dates that everoyne in a corp gets.


The other is called "YOU". What's stopping you from getting some folks together and doing something. Hell you can even make up some kind of story to go with it.

EVE has two centralized event coordination mechanisms. The 1st is the calendar, which people can use to set dates that everoyne in a corp gets.


The other is called "YOU". What's stopping you from getting some folks together and doing something. Hell you can even make up some kind of story to go with it.

My sub runs out in Nov.

I don' t think I'll be renewing.

I've lost my motivation for the game.

EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp.

Most activities are time intensive and low reward.

The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network).

Citadels show this to be a continuing trend.

Has EVE become too "jobby?"

Ahhh, another classic example of the 'Instant Gratification' crowd that CCP has been foolishly working overtime on to get into the game. CCP catering to this type of mentality is what's causing the game to go all to hell, basically turning the sandbox into a staged theme-park.

This is replaced long ago by system index costs.

Ahhh, another classic example of the 'Instant Gratification' crowd that CCP has been foolishly working overtime on to get into the game. CCP catering to this type of mentality is what's causing the game to go all to hell, basically turning the sandbox into a staged theme-park.


DMC

Right but what I am saying is that with all these people making sites for the game the only thing lacking at the moment seems to be an event coordinator. This way everyone can see who is planning what and then chose to participate, thus upping the numbers, and thus creating the potential for even more content.

It is a win win, and the calender I think only shows your corp or alliance events right?

T-T-T-T-TRIGGERED!

that shite is getting old real fast

It works, try it. They foaming mad.

EVE does have a very poor 'fun per hour' ratio. Simply getting from point A to point B can be a timesink in itself, yet alone actually doing the stuff you want to do when you get there. Quite often I simply can't be bothered to log in because I know in the half hour or whatever that I have that I won't actually get to do very much. EVE is just that type of game. I tend to just let my characters train until I get that EVE feeling.

It works, try it. They foaming mad.

Ahhh, another classic example of the 'Instant Gratification' crowd that CCP has been foolishly working overtime on to get into the game. CCP catering to this type of mentality is what's causing the game to go all to hell, basically turning the sandbox into a staged theme-park.


DMC

My sub runs out in Nov.

I don' t think I'll be renewing.

I've lost my motivation for the game.

EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp.

Most activities are time intensive and low reward.

The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network).

Citadels show this to be a continuing trend.

Has EVE become too "jobby?"

Yeah, but believe it or not, that crowd is the one brings in money. Any MMO suffers from the same fate. Dedicated, hardcore PLEX farmers who self-sustain and don't spend a dime after the initial purchase is not something a company that makes money wants. They will go after the playerbase that are less patient and are willing to throw more money at them for easier and obtainable goals and gameplay. You may not like it, but MMO market has proven this to be true beyond doubt and CCP is not stupid not to slowly approach that route whether you like it or not, that is how MMO's roll.

It's surprising it's not being done quicker considering the horribly low the population in this game is, it is simply failing to lure new players in because most things they hear about EVE is - it's a massive grind, it's a griefer paradise, it takes 6 years to even become a viable player. Those sort of things don't make a popular MMO, it just makes a niche little game which EVE is, it will never appeal to the masses until it becomes more casual-friendly. It just has enough playerbase to sustain it, but it will never become a huge and popular MMO.

Yeah, but believe it or not, that crowd is the one brings in money. Any MMO suffers from the same fate. Dedicated, hardcore PLEX farmers who self-sustain and don't spend a dime after the initial purchase is not something a company that makes money wants. They will go after the playerbase that are less patient and are willing to throw more money at them for easier and obtainable goals and gameplay. You may not like it, but MMO market has proven this to be true beyond doubt and CCP is not stupid not to slowly approach that route whether you like it or not, that is how MMO's roll.

It's surprising it's not being done quicker considering the horribly low the population in this game is, it is simply failing to lure new players in because most things they hear about EVE is - it's a massive grind, it's a griefer paradise, it takes 6 years to even become a viable player. Those sort of things don't make a popular MMO, it just makes a niche little game which EVE is, it will never appeal to the masses until it becomes more casual-friendly. It just has enough playerbase to sustain it, but it will never become a huge and popular MMO.

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

1. Wormholes

2. Missioning

3. Site Scanning

4. Incursions

5. Faction Warfare

6. Angel/Serpentis Events

7. Mining*Manufacturing*Marketing (3Ms)

High sec activities available? REALLY?? Oh! All that's "boring" you say?

Then, go play FFXIV or GW2 or LOTRO or *flips a coin*

Get real. There's so much available to do, anyone who claims they've "tried everything" and now they're "bored" is lying.
(Not "lyeing".) Get a clue.

My sub runs out in Nov.

I don' t think I'll be renewing.

I've lost my motivation for the game.

EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp.

Most activities are time intensive and low reward.

The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network).

Citadels show this to be a continuing trend.

Has EVE become too "jobby?"