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Shiva Shane
Gallente Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:06:00 -
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Maybe you could try providing security for your operations? Or paying someone else to provide it? Call it, the cost of doing business.
Perhaps rather than demanding that EVE be changed to allow you to play as yuou choose you should alter your playstyle to fit into the fabric of the EVE universe.
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Celeste Coeval
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Inspector Sidorenkova All who wants us to fight Privateers... Are you Privatters yourself? You should know, Privateers are UNBEATABLE. Why? I said, they are not like other alliances. They are pirate service. If some of their corps getting tired of war, they just stop pay for this service and leave alliance. And another bored corps join at their place. And again and again. They don't need to protect their stations or POSes, like 0.0 alliances. You cannot win.
No one is unbeatable in EvE that assertion is way off the mark.
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:11:00 -
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I'm in another Privateers thread. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Celeste Coeval
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn I'm in another Privateers thread.
Make a tally in your sig
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
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Slave 775
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Squirl
Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Join my corp? It owns Privateers.
I want the real Jenny back !!!
Cannibal
QFT!, the real Jenny would turn around in her grave reading the crap this guy is saying on the forums...
geez
Think it would put a smile on her face, seeing the grief they put on us with this guy.
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Lord XSiV
Amarr The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:20:00 -
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Actually, now that I think about it, what they are doing is actually pretty neat. It adds spice to the game. If anything it will get high sec mission runners to move down to low sec which if I understand correctly is what CCP is looking for.
Anything that improves the game, I am supporting. Even if it means sifding with an ebil, mean, nasty pilot who is lacking both vitamins c and d. (I hope someone gets that)
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Celeste Coeval
Originally by: Crumplecorn I'm in another Privateers thread.
Make a tally in your sig
That would require going back and counting. Eve-Search may be of use here... -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Nathan Grey
Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Inspector Sidorenkova Privateer alliance causes high security systems to be more dangerous for members of most large corps and alliances, than low sec's. They have 40+ offwars, half of EVE in war with them. They making Empire as pirate paradise now. You may say "What's problem? They have as many targets as enemies to shoot them". That's a bit wrong. Yes, they have many enemies in each system, but these enemies are not connected among other. And sometimes they are enemies to each other. Privateers just killing one LV member, then killing BOB member, then killing RA member. Their enemies often can't fight together. And, Privateer alliance isn't an alliance as other EVE alliances. This is just the pirate service, that grants them rights to shoot many targets in high sec's. Yes, for ISK. To use this service, corporation must pay some ISK, that goes to war payments. More and more pirate corporations are using this service. Too many privateers in empire now. And they not only declares wars to PvP alliances. All large trade corporations are ander terror now. They has no chances in fight, they are industrial\logistics, and they has no place to safe fly now. CCP, do you want disband of large peaceful industrial corps? Do you want all who don't like PvP to leave your game? If not, please return high secs to your customers. We need war limit. As i know, most agressive alliances almost never had more than 5 wars. Make the 5 war limit and get these pirates back to low secs. Because payment for war doesn't work to limit the wars.
Highsec isn't supposed to be safe, it's just safer. Just because you don't want to learn how to fly around those 30,000 other pilots doesn't mean that they won't fly into you.
Privateers are just as politically active as everyone else. They shoot people they don't like. Which is everybody.
Welcome to Eve. Med center's that way, new ship market this way. ----------------------------------
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Cpt Angus
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:35:00 -
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The balance is simply this,
Alliances make 0.0 unsafe for all not in thier Alliance.
In the same way Privateers makes empire unsafe for all those who are in an Alliance.
As for anyone else, adapt and overcome there are ways and means. Theres no need for empire alliances.
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hedfunk
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Inspector Sidorenkova All who wants us to fight Privateers... Are you Privatters yourself? You should know, Privateers are UNBEATABLE. Why? I said, they are not like other alliances. They are pirate service. If some of their corps getting tired of war, they just stop pay for this service and leave alliance. And another bored corps join at their place. And again and again. They don't need to protect their stations or POSes, like 0.0 alliances. You cannot win.
lol you're an idiot, it's not hard to avoid privateers tbh.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:42:00 -
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Naw it's fine, but I used to think differently.
As is, a lot of n00bs are getting paid indirectly by stealing from them, so it's a n00b benefit, really.
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Herz Darkpriest
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: hedfunk lol you're an idiot, it's not hard to avoid privateers tbh.
Said privateer... Wolf said to lamb "It was not hard to avoid me", lol. Ok, what can you say to tiger then? I don't know why you are not in my killboard yet, but i will fix this problem as quick as i can. Try to avoid me.
That's for "idiot"
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Herz Darkpriest
Originally by: hedfunk lol you're an idiot, it's not hard to avoid privateers tbh.
Said privateer... Wolf said to lamb "It was not hard to avoid me", lol. Ok, what can you say to tiger then? I don't know why you are not in my killboard yet, but i will fix this problem as quick as i can. Try to avoid me.
That's for "idiot"
Also I am coming in my many titans and motherships and will be ganking of privateers soon.
Make your time. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Celeste Coeval
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Celeste Coeval
Originally by: Crumplecorn I'm in another Privateers thread.
Make a tally in your sig
That would require going back and counting. Eve-Search may be of use here...
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
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Blue Tsunami
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:44:00 -
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Said privateer... Wolf said to lamb "It was not hard to avoid me", lol. Ok, what can you say to tiger then? I don't know why you are not in my killboard yet, but i will fix this problem as quick as i can. Try to avoid me.
That's for "idiot"
Thank you for saying it better than I would have and before me. I'm too old for name calling on a video game forum. Especially on an EvE forum.
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:49:00 -
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This has been discussed a billion times.
If you want to avoid privateers:
1. have your haulers in NPC corps.
That's it. Done. Finis.
Yes, it's inconvenient. But temporary. Once the prats run out of haulers to gank, they'll get bored and leave.
If you keep feeding them it's your own fault they keep ganking you.
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MasterEnt
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Privateers now have a lot of wars.
I would have have thought that their less combat-orientated enemies would have thought of banding together for mutual protection, clubbing together to hire mercenaries, or passing intel onto the people who are at war and know to fight them.
All of those things would be more fun than moaning.
I dont think people care enough.
Yes, PA is annoying as all hell, but its not like corps are really threatened by them for the most part.
They have no cohesive strategy against any ONE corp or alliance, their targeting is one of chance and opportunity. So no one really needs to form a cohesive alliance to protect AGAINST them.
I know I don't take much tactical notice of them.. even when in Jita. |
Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:24:00 -
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I don't see why everyone that gets war dec'd by privs doesn't make it mutual. By the end of the week thats 100 wars they can't back out of when they are getting bbq'd. At the end of the month thats 1000 happy corps slaughtering privs where ever they turn up. At the end of the year privs will no longer exist, and who could, being at war with 25000 ppl a day.....
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Trading 101 Kaaii-Net Research Labs
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Enders Vaal
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:12:00 -
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What I find funny is the mass of corporations that always post about getting war dec'd by Privateers, but in the end they do nothing about it. These corps let the Privateers fight on Privateer terms, not on their own.
Why hasn't there been a banding together of corporations in empire to take the fight to the privs? Are they just that ignorant? Or do they really think that the Privateers will just pass their flashing-red haulers by? ---
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Ogul
Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Enders Vaal Why hasn't there been a banding together of corporations in empire to take the fight to the privs? Are they just that ignorant? Or do they really think that the Privateers will just pass their flashing-red haulers by?
Because that would be a capital waste of time, putting your hauler alts in noob corps is much more convenient.
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Lone Solo
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.03.12 20:27:00 -
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Best way to deal with stuff like this is to use the game mechanics against them.
There is no rule that states you have to fight a war, your options are to all leave the corp or be station bound for a while.
If you are part of an alliance or 0.0 corp then you should be able to defend yourself, if you are a highsec corp then leave the corp for a newbie one and second stage a new corp, corps arent expensive.
Now a bunch of people will claim you are abusing by doing this and that if declared you have to stick it out and fight... this is wrong.
You may always leave a corp at war, the abuse part is when you repetedly leave and rejoin a corp at war in order to be able to safelly coplete stuff while outside of the war.
Thus as long as you do not rejoin the corp at war as long as the war is in place then you are clear.
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Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2007.03.12 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Spaceman Jack on 12/03/2007 21:17:13 Thats why most corps dont wardec back
In my corps situation most of us are in 0.0. (too dangerous for PA). Maybe 2 of us are in Jita at a time doing random corp things that can only be done there, then we go back to 0.0
So there is no point us us wasting money or thought in an empty empire war that only affects 2 pilots for 3 days at a time.
We rather put our thoughts into the more interesting aspects of eve in 0.0 PvPing that actually accomplish something.
So we loose a few shuttles and move on. PA is simply not important or imposing enough to mount any effort into.
To us, they are more like jerk*ff teenagers making a ruckus in a public park that have just discovered they have some hair on their l*ttle b*lls and think they are so cool now.
Annoying, but you move on. While they waste their time, we get all the 0.0 space, fine by me.
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Uinen
Amarr Backup Squad
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Posted - 2007.03.12 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Uinen on 12/03/2007 21:03:22 1. Well every good PvPer i know wont visit empire so... 2. PA arent any threat to ppl who have alts to do empire job.
As always only weak ppl will teake hit.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
I don't see why everyone that gets war dec'd by privs doesn't make it mutual. By the end of the week thats 100 wars they can't back out of when they are getting bbq'd. At the end of the month thats 1000 happy corps slaughtering privs where ever they turn up. At the end of the year privs will no longer exist, and who could, being at war with 25000 ppl a day
I would really like this. Please do this. Some of us are getting better at this gate camping stuff. The day that everyone who is at war with the Privateers cooperate in Empire is the day the pod people have taken over the world. ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
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DeadRow
Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.12 21:33:00 -
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Having loads of fun with our war with privateers. excellent fight last night in kaap If i had one problem with it would be them posting lost mail on their kb. /DeadRow
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.03.12 21:43:00 -
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the original OP is a well known farmer who frequents the empire parts i live in, just ignore the ISK sapping ebay selling OP - cant petition em tho because they do reply to CCP so i guess u could go NPC corp to the OP that sounds like the best idea.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.12 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Join my corp? It owns Privateers.
No more patriotic Caldari killing Gallente?
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.03.12 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Herz Darkpriest
Originally by: hedfunk lol you're an idiot, it's not hard to avoid privateers tbh.
Said privateer... Wolf said to lamb "It was not hard to avoid me", lol. Ok, what can you say to tiger then? I don't know why you are not in my killboard yet, but i will fix this problem as quick as i can. Try to avoid me.
That's for "idiot"
Also I am coming in my many titans and motherships and will be ganking of privateers soon.
Make your time.
All your undock ganks are belong to you?
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Beetle Boy
Minmatar Hybrid Syndicate Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Inspector Sidorenkova Privateer alliance causes high security systems to be more dangerous for members of most large corps and alliances, than low sec's. They have 40+ offwars, half of EVE in war with them. They making Empire as pirate paradise now. You may say "What's problem? They have as many targets as enemies to shoot them". That's a bit wrong. Yes, they have many enemies in each system, but these enemies are not connected among other. And sometimes they are enemies to each other. Privateers just killing one LV member, then killing BOB member, then killing RA member. Their enemies often can't fight together. And, Privateer alliance isn't an alliance as other EVE alliances. This is just the pirate service, that grants them rights to shoot many targets in high sec's. Yes, for ISK. To use this service, corporation must pay some ISK, that goes to war payments. More and more pirate corporations are using this service. Too many privateers in empire now. And they not only declares wars to PvP alliances. All large trade corporations are ander terror now. They has no chances in fight, they are industrial\logistics, and they has no place to safe fly now. CCP, do you want disband of large peaceful industrial corps? Do you want all who don't like PvP to leave your game? If not, please return high secs to your customers. We need war limit. As i know, most agressive alliances almost never had more than 5 wars. Make the 5 war limit and get these pirates back to low secs. Because payment for war doesn't work to limit the wars.
1. Privateer allaince doesn't make high sec systems more dangerous for memebers. I see almost all war target from BoB RA and LV in shuttles so i don't see that a problem 2. Privateers offers corps and people a allaince with no politics bull**** 3. Industrail and Logistic allaince then should hire protection or even better recurit a few pvp corps to there allaince to fight back 4. War Limit! Your just stupid how is BoB going to have the ragooncad2 and friends.
We might have many targets but most are shuttles or nano'ed or stabbed and even if we do get a kill we make no money due to loot thiefs so Inspector Sidorenkova live wth or as Evolution say "Those who cannot adapt become victims of Privateers like Evolution".
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.12 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Join my corp? It owns Privateers.
No more patriotic Caldari killing Gallente?
Make love, not war? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon.
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