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Ikvar
I WILL ROCK YOUR FACE
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
Ewwww, Co-Processor...
Coming from you, FraXy, it doesn't bother me
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: FraXy on 15/03/2007 20:01:54
Originally by: Ikvar
Originally by: FraXy
Ewwww, Co-Processor...
Coming from you, FraXy, it doesn't bother me
Dude...
My setups are uber i tell ya.. UBER!!!
You seen the structure tanked Dominix without scrambler? Passivetanked PvP Eos? Passivetanked Ganka_Myrmidon?
And my personal favorite being the Smartbombing, Passivetanked Inertia_Scorp.
Edit:
About that Co-Processor, was too easy to not do it
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar This is how I fit my Navy Meg:
7x Ion Blaster Cannon II, 1x TS NOS
Gist X-Type 100MN MWD, Domination Warp Disruptor, Domination Stasis Web, Heavy Cap Booster II (I prefer to be able to load 5 charges)
2x Centus X-Type LAR, 3x Corpum or Centum A-Type EANM, Damage Control II, Co-Processor II, Shadow Serp Mag Stab
2x Ancillary Current Router I, 1x Nanobot Accelerator I
4x Beserker II, 5x Warrior II
Full high grade slave set (just under 20k armor)
1. Dont' say 'Eww a co-processor', the thing has **** all CPU and you'll find most people with really high end setups on Navy Megs (back me up here DeMundus) have to fit one.
2. The tank is extremely strong and I much prefer eanms to actives, however if you do want to go active I'd go 3x 64% (exp kin therm), a DCU and an EANM.
3. I prefer the extra low and armor on the Navy Meg to the Vindi's cap bonus.
4. 2 Centus X-Type LARs on a Hyperion with BS 5 is roughly equivalent to 4 T2 LARs.
I'm quite positive that if you drop a corpum EANM, fit an RCU II, drop an ancillery current unit and fit an auxillery nano pump, you'll have a stronger tank...
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Ikvar
I WILL ROCK YOUR FACE
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
I'm quite positive that if you drop a corpum EANM, fit an RCU II, drop an ancillery current unit and fit an auxillery nano pump, you'll have a stronger tank...
I'm quite positive that I find your idea horrible.
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Spoony Brook
Skill Level Six
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy Navy Mega: 7x Electron II, TS/DB Medium Neut Gist Mwd, Domi Web, Domi 30k, TS/DB Injector 2x Centus X Reps, 3x Centus X Hardeners, 2x Corpum EANM, IFFA I/DCU II
3x Auxiliary Nano Pump I`s
This does tank a small fleet.
It certainly does ---------------
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar
Originally by: Deathbarrage
I'm quite positive that if you drop a corpum EANM, fit an RCU II, drop an ancillery current unit and fit an auxillery nano pump, you'll have a stronger tank...
I'm quite positive that I find your idea horrible.
why? because it saves you 350mil or because you have to fit 2 fitting mods?
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Dol Amroth
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:27:00 -
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Or you get around from having to use CPU fitting a Corpum EANM and fit a high end office Adaptive Nano, thus saving CPU enough to fit officer mag stabs instead of Shadow Serpentis and perhaps if you tweak it just right enough to not need to fit a CPU mod in the last low slot.
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Dol Amroth
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:32:00 -
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Meant to say this also but forgot to mention that High Grade Snakes and a Gistii X-type AB do a world of wonder over an equivalent MWD for not gimping your cap and still allowing you use within deadspace to kill [people] inside.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.16 09:40:00 -
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Since my latest fad is T2 rail fleet snipers. Navy megathron. 27k armor with ease.
And yes I would fly such a ship in fleet fights.
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Royaldo
Old Farts Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.16 12:46:00 -
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vindi, 1 extra bonus over the other 2 ships.
the mwd bonus is great.
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Terrak2
Definition Of Destruction
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:10:00 -
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Hyperion with a decent setup is best, but Vindi is more flexible. I'm hard to come by like a straight guy workin' at Starbucks. |
Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.16 13:29:00 -
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tbh I can't really see how the hype is better at anything but tanking...
lack of tracking bonus ****s you up REAL bad if using void, what is what you should be using imho
You're using 5x med drones versus the 5x heavy drones of the mega so I'm not sure you have more dps (certainly not actually since most people on a hyp just fit 1 MFS II)
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2007.03.16 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage tbh I can't really see how the hype is better at anything but tanking...
lack of tracking bonus ****s you up REAL bad if using void, what is what you should be using imho
You're using 5x med drones versus the 5x heavy drones of the mega so I'm not sure you have more dps (certainly not actually since most people on a hyp just fit 1 MFS II)
Just because you can't fit a full set doesn't mean you can't fit them at all, 4 heavies works.
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Natheniel
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 19:40:00 -
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Hyperion is great for playing bait when trying to get some one to engage your gang. vindicator is awsome for EW in the sence you can fit 1 - 3 points in the mids, which is good for going after people who love their stabs to much, or fitting two faction webs for those pesky nano ships. in pvp flexable mid slots are very very useful for going after people. the navy mega is an awsome tank with 8 lows but not expendable like hyperion is so it cant be bait, but its an awsome mission runner. also the vindi has the 25% bonus to turret damage right off the bat, so if your like me and dont wanna train 50 days for gal BS 5 it works out nicely
My suggestion for use?
Hyperion -> expendable bait ship Vindicator -> solo pwnmobiel Navy Mega-> mission runner
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THRASHER23
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.18 14:49:00 -
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I'm having the same issue on what to fly atm. I like both the navy mega and the vindi the hyperion is just a ****ty ship imo cause it dosen't have a tracking bonus, thx ccp. anyway the extra low on the navy mega is very nice since you can fit for extra dmg/tank but the vindi has a cap bonus so...I'm really torn between the two. also i hate using electrons or ions on my bs, it drives me crazy. Is there a way to fit some officer/faction blasters w/ the dps of neutrons but w/ less pg? Reason I'm asking is if I run across a Mach I think the mach wil out dmg me 1vs1 since im using the freak'n electrons and such. This is mainly where my delima lies, what gun to use for max dmg and what ship is best for solo. FOR DEATH AND GLORY!!! |
DarkElf
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.18 15:16:00 -
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for me it depends on 2 thing.
Pre kali every frickin ship u would engage seemed to have a multi spec which could turn the tide of a fight so eccm on such an expensive ship was important so vindi ftw. also if u fit a decent multi spec urself then it was insanely good. post kali this isn't very important and ecm is used much less so i would much prefer the extra dmg/tank slot to a eccm, sensor booster, tracking disruptor or random other ewar mod.
also the vindicator bear in mind is a short cut to gallente bs5. u get a 25% damage bonus for the ship which is basically like having %5 per lvl of bs on the navy mega. if u don't have bs5 then i'd go vindicator as a 5% drop in damage from guns is a fair bit of dps. if u have bs5 then the navy mega for me, no question these days.
DE
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thesulei
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.18 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: thesulei on 18/03/2007 16:46:20 One cap injector (even officer) can't keep up with dual 450cap-repairers by long shot...just a remark for alot of the setups posted here.
Edit: Imo, it just shows that alot of the posted setups are theoretical and only few people have experience flying multibillion blaster setups in pvp. Fitting dual centus repairers with 1 injector is nothing but an enormous waste of isk.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.18 16:59:00 -
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btw wouldn't an adaptive nano plating (TS or officer) give better res then 3x corpum EANM due to the stacking penalty?
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.03.18 17:25:00 -
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I actually really like both the Vindicator and the Navy Megathron, though you can do something quite different with the Vindicator to the Navy Megathron these days...
Oh and as pointed out, Dual Centus/Corpus LAR setups, with all guns blazing = OMGWTFCAP!!
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DarkElf
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.18 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage btw wouldn't an adaptive nano plating (TS or officer) give better res then 3x corpum EANM due to the stacking penalty?
confused. u realise that platings still get stacking penalties against the eanm's right? so same penalty, less resists.
DE
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PauZotoh Zhaan
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Posted - 2007.03.18 22:06:00 -
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You can always switch to core x-type armore reps, they "eat" 400cap per cycle, but you will still need cap for guns and hardeners, You said TS nos but which one? heavy or medium? I can put ions with medium one, but for heavy I have to sacrifice dmg and switch to electrons.
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Eamz
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.03.18 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: thesulei Edited by: thesulei on 18/03/2007 16:46:20 One cap injector (even officer) can't keep up with dual 450cap-repairers by long shot...just a remark for alot of the setups posted here.
Edit: Imo, it just shows that alot of the posted setups are theoretical and only few people have experience flying multibillion blaster setups in pvp. Fitting dual centus repairers with 1 injector is nothing but an enormous waste of isk.
too bloody right.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.19 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Navy mega is superior... 8 lows with all iStab&Nano
Not all that superior for long.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.03.19 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: thesulei Edited by: thesulei on 18/03/2007 16:46:20 One cap injector (even officer) can't keep up with dual 450cap-repairers by long shot...just a remark for alot of the setups posted here.
Edit: Imo, it just shows that alot of the posted setups are theoretical and only few people have experience flying multibillion blaster setups in pvp. Fitting dual centus repairers with 1 injector is nothing but an enormous waste of isk.
The heavy nos cycle plus the 800 charge gives you the cap for both does it not?
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.19 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan Edited by: PauZotoh Zhaan on 18/03/2007 22:32:21 Edited by: PauZotoh Zhaan on 18/03/2007 22:28:15 Edited by: PauZotoh Zhaan on 18/03/2007 22:23:32 Edited by: PauZotoh Zhaan on 18/03/2007 22:13:57 You can always switch to core x-type armore reps, they "eat" 400cap per cycle, but you will still need cap for guns and hardeners, You said TS nos but which one? heavy or medium? I can put ions with medium one, but for heavy I have to sacrifice dmg and switch to electrons.
Test setup for vinid:
Vindicator
True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L]
Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Raysere's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster
Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Internal Force Field Array I Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Rigs : Ancillary Current Router I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II
9999 shield, 12.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=11/29/46/64 11622 armor, E/T/K/Ex=65/79/79/71 6581.250000000001 cap, +18.62/s, -153.442/s 1812.0 m/s (with snakes) 953.8 DPS (raw dmg, no resistance including t2 drones)
Navy Mega
Megathron Navy Issue
True Sansha Medium Nosferatu Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xVoid L]
Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Raysere's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier
Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Internal Force Field Array I Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Rigs : Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Ancillary Current Router I \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II
10713 shield, 13.39/s, E/T/K/Ex=11/29/46/64 12451 armor, E/T/K/Ex=77/85/85/80 5062.5 cap, +14.32/s, -152.942/s 1812.0 m/s 926.7 DPS
-13,8CPU short :/
This with 5% less cpu for guns imps, 5% dmg for all guns, 5% dmg for large guns imps.
can you plz explain how the vindi setup has more dps then the navy mega?
both 7x ion with void, both 1x SS mag stab, both 25% dmg bonus, both 5x ogre II
can you plz expl
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MOS DEF
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.19 11:56:00 -
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Flying the navy mega myself. I love the looks and prefer it over the vindi for that reason. Considering faction BS make no sense in general allready it doesn't even matter anymore. If you are just out for best performance i'd say get the vindi. The agility bonus and the additional cap over the navy mega is really nice.
Allthough as i keep telling Fraxy: The Navy mega is black!
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PauZotoh Zhaan
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
can you plz explain how the vindi setup has more dps then the navy mega?
both 7x ion with void, both 1x SS mag stab, both 25% dmg bonus, both 5x ogre II
can you plz expl
Hmm proly becouse I have bs lvl4 and vindi give you 25% dmg bonus regarding bs lvl. But I think mega can tank and deal more dmg then vindi, so I would choose navy mega.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: MOS DEF Flying the navy mega myself. I love the looks and prefer it over the vindi for that reason. Considering faction BS make no sense in general allready it doesn't even matter anymore. If you are just out for best performance i'd say get the vindi. The agility bonus and the additional cap over the navy mega is really nice.
Allthough as i keep telling Fraxy: The Navy mega is black!
does that make up for the lack of last low slot? (which is not neccesarily worse then a med slot imho since you already have 4 which is the basic need and it's hard to throw out any hardcore EW with 1 slot)
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DarkElf
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: MOS DEF Flying the navy mega myself. I love the looks and prefer it over the vindi for that reason. Considering faction BS make no sense in general allready it doesn't even matter anymore. If you are just out for best performance i'd say get the vindi. The agility bonus and the additional cap over the navy mega is really nice.
Allthough as i keep telling Fraxy: The Navy mega is black!
does that make up for the lack of last low slot? (which is not neccesarily worse then a med slot imho since you already have 4 which is the basic need and it's hard to throw out any hardcore EW with 1 slot)
does the navy mega being black make up for a missing low slot. hell if i could pay a bil for a bright pink ship then i'd take a 1,1,1 layout
looks > effectiveness
DE
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Ferocious FeAr
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:10:00 -
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Depends on your playing style. Find it daniel son.
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