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Kenrailae
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.30 00:42:54 -
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Fedo Otsolen wrote:
Hence the topic... why does CCP hate freighters.....
:D
Not really...... you're going on about using capital modules and freighters having nothing they can do to not be ganked.
I'm just suggesting we stop with this hodge-podged 'Bro, duel me bro! Now attack me into warp bro!' mechanic and move to a mechanic actually designed to do this effectively same thing, since it seems to be the way CCP wants it set up anyway. That's kinda the whole second part to emergent gameplay that people tend to forget about..... if it emerges, and CCP deems it bad.... it gets nerfed. If it emerges, and CCP deems it good.... it should be accounted for in mechanics, not just left this unplanned for result of a particular mechanic. I don't think Freighters specifically need any buff of any sort.
Now all that being said, if CCP wants to get off their Heineken and redo alot of stuff on the mining and logistics side that is just bad gameplay to start, then sure, would be interesting to throw some ideas around then. But I'm not a fan of bandaid fixes that leave the core bad gameplay unchanged for Lels.
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FT Cold
R3d Fire Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
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Posted - 2016.08.30 01:36:07 -
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Didn't they just get buffed twice?
I just did a quick check of zkill and it doesn't look to me like empty freighters are being annihilated in high. Most of them have been whales with enough loot to guarantee profitability. Looks to me like another case of working as intended. |
Vic Jefferson
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2016.08.30 03:00:58 -
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Fedo Otsolen wrote:Vic Jefferson wrote:I really don't see a problem with it. That is because you only fly frigs and this may not be an area of eve you are strong in. There is a serious issue here wich needs to be discuses.
Vic Jefferson wrote: I've moved hundreds of billions around in freighters. I have never lost one. I have even made some ISK moving stuff around.
All of my characters, including Vic which is a main, have at least one if not two freighters skilled. I have run my alliances logistics for months, I have stocked markets, I have even run liquidation/moving services for trusted individuals. There's a reason I have no freighter losses on any of my characters: I know how to fly them.
There's really no issue with them.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.08.30 04:51:25 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Vic Jefferson wrote:
B)Use a webbing alt/corpmate
ON the subject of freighters and webbing alts etc..... can we just get a module/mechanic designed to do this already? The duel/web alt is great and all.... but it's not what it's designed to do and I'm guessing since CCP hasn't removed/modified the duel/web alt thing, they're okay with it being a thing. So..... can we stop beating around the bush and just get a proper mechanic for it yet?
so they have a tool that players have found does the job
it does it great and there are poor ways and good ways to do it
it counters and has counters
what the hell do they need to add.
the fact that we found a way to use something in a way other than it was intended does not mean we need to add in something new to fill that role
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.08.30 05:26:23 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:He has a point. The way freighters are atm theyre worth ganking even when empty. There should be a reasonable cost but there is not. Take a look at Baltec1s last day of ganking in high -14 frieghters ganked. 13 empty.
Stupid situation, my idea of each class of ship having specific resistance to smaller class guns would help.
A dessie shooting another dessie 100%damage, shooting a cruiser, 90%, battleship 70%, freighter 60%, etc etc.
Makes no sense atm battleship shooting frig 20%or less while frig shooting all bigger ships is 100.
We can only take this seriously if you type this while on your motorcycle
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2719
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Posted - 2016.08.30 05:58:35 -
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How many alts do you have. It's like you create two new ones per week to open the same old threads again and again and again. This is getting old. Thread reported. Post with your main.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.30 06:42:55 -
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Fedo Otsolen wrote:Hence the topic... why does CCP hate freighters.....
Wrong question. The right question is, why does CCP hate Caldari so much?
They overnerfed the medium sized missile launchers and replaced them with frigate missiles and battleship ones. When are the Caldari get their medium sized missiles back?
Heavy assault missiles are in dire need of application and heavy missiles are so terrible that you cannot hurt a planet with precision ones.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.08.30 15:43:28 -
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You don't get to order me around.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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