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Ararius
e X i l e FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.15 09:25:00 -
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It would also be logical to reduce alloy size by 1/2
But im sure we all know CCP isnt known for always doing 'logical' things
<3 Eve and CCP
-Ararius
Originally by: Alski It depends how much CCP learn from past user interface mistakes, i'm sure they'll do very well, but if not i'll be right clicking on random people and selecting "Orbit at 0.5m" 
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.15 10:46:00 -
[722]
Originally by: Ararius It would also be logical to reduce alloy size by 1/2
But im sure we all know CCP isnt known for always doing 'logical' things
<3 Eve and CCP
-Ararius
Well as long as i dont have to go to empire for better exploration sites. The major thinks that we will need is hacking/archaelogy content & gas clouds. And that the sites are enough in number, will escalate a deacent amount of the time, are findable, and will drop something other than alloys.
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Sabian Treehugger
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Posted - 2007.06.15 11:54:00 -
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Hmm,Rogue drone commanders in explorations sites ,Nice. But if I only find alloys I am so going to petition it everytime i loot one
Oh and : -Plush compound now yields significant amount of tritanium and a decent amount of pyrite. The amount of zydrine has been reduced. -Lustering Alloy has had its zydrine amount lowered. -Opulent Compound has had its drop chance reduced on Rogue Drones battleships.
I hope plush is the the new s**t 
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vinnymcg
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.06.16 11:39:00 -
[724]
/signed on everything, the new region is a bit of a joke, the crystals need to refine to trit and pyr as well as everything else
Remotely Delete Jump clones tread COMPSOC |

Ryas Nia
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.06.16 11:54:00 -
[725]
read the patch notes its been boosted.
Recruiting Terrorists |

Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.06.17 01:02:00 -
[726]
I would like to see confirmation of roids being boosted too... +-+-+-+-+ "I am matter... I am anti-matter... I can see your past... I can see your future... I consume time... And I will consume you!"
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.06.19 20:06:00 -
[727]
BUMP ¦cause I¦m curious... +-+-+-+-+ "I am matter... I am anti-matter... I can see your past... I can see your future... I consume time... And I will consume you!"
-Culex (SMRPG) |

ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:08:00 -
[728]
Edited by: ghosttr on 20/06/2007 10:07:38 It seems that they are as borked as ever, i dont see any new exploration stuff (ladar/radar/mag sites), and the ones that i do find (with multispec probes) are unfindable and hard to come by.
And the roid fix replace our ice belts with more roids
Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking |

prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: ghosttr Edited by: ghosttr on 20/06/2007 10:07:38 It seems that they are as borked as ever, i dont see any new exploration stuff (ladar/radar/mag sites), and the ones that i do find (with multispec probes) are unfindable and hard to come by.
What do you expect? You have to determine what kind of exploration sites are present with multispectrals anyway, and they certainly don't appear in every single system you visit. Sounds like any region tbh. -- .sig apathy ftw |

ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:12:00 -
[730]
Originally by: prsr
Originally by: ghosttr Edited by: ghosttr on 20/06/2007 10:07:38 It seems that they are as borked as ever, i dont see any new exploration stuff (ladar/radar/mag sites), and the ones that i do find (with multispec probes) are unfindable and hard to come by.
What do you expect? You have to determine what kind of exploration sites are present with multispectrals anyway, and they certainly don't appear in every single system you visit. Sounds like any region tbh.
Out of 12 systems scanned only 1 had any exploration content. And it was findable with the on-board scanner (I found this out after wasting about 5 minutes on trying to probe it out )
Im saying the sites that require probes are still borked, they Added these easy sites as new candy for us, but they didnt do much to fix/improve the old borked ones.
Also the amount of smaller sites was very limited. 1 in 12 systems is not very good. I expected it to be somewhat like was on the test server, with an average of 1-2 per system.
Also wtf is up the the ice belts! My pos needs fuel and you turned my icicles into veld roids!
Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking |

Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:15:00 -
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Roids r finally ok - hope they will respan like this after we mind them out. Exploration - i have seen there is a lot of them available to find with build in scaner - didnt had time to test out the one u find with probes. CCP said we wont get any others then unknown and radar in Drone space. Apart of that Ice belts r broken and now ofcourse ratz r broken - there is nearlly 0 ratz around. GJ CC f u c k i n g P. Took u half a year to fix the roids i hope it will take at least 1 day less to fix ratz.
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Hammer Judge
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:29:00 -
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Yes, there are no rats in our asteroid belts either. -
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:53:00 -
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I guess we can now expect half a year of ppl posting here what we have to whine about; and knowing CCP they will say it is intend to be like it, and after a long time realize AGAIN the scruwe it up AGAIN!
Welcome to Drone Space AGAIN!
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Karanth
Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:47:00 -
[734]
All I know is, ice belts had Veldspar in them after patch deployment, belts were 100km or so off warp-in points, and many roids were simply gone. Oveur said here that it will be fixed during today's DT.
As of just after DT, the ice is back, but I haven't seen belts so sparse since that time I mined in Cistuvaert. The fact that what few roids there are are spread out over a few hundred kilometers isn't exactly stellar either. Using a survey scanner, and roaming about to hit more than three asteroids at a time, I find some interesting things:
Crokite 4,367 Veldspar 87,022 Concentrated Veldspar 95,901 Hedbergite 7,886 Veldspar 82,049 Onyx Ochre 7,456 Scordite 45,046 Dense Veldspar 79,105
I had to travel 25km to get all of these results; this wasn't a "sit and scan" test. I checked B-7LYC VIII Belt 1. The Crokite is a nice number, but the rest? They are lower than before the patch, they are about 20 times more diffuse, and with half the roid count, at best.
Belt II-1, is even worse off right now. After choosing a random asteroid, bookmarking it (since even the Veldspar is too small to see at 140km away) and warping back, my overview shows that the closest asteroid is the Dense Veldspar, at 2,439m away, and after that, Scordite at 29km. Survey scanner? This Veldspar asteroid contains 28,908 units. From where I was, I chose a Scordite roid, warped to it, then an Omber roid. My findings?
NOT ONE ASTEROID IS WITHIN 20km OF ANOTHER.
It's like a giant scattered his marbles all over the grid.
The only good thing I found: The ice belt. It now has ice, with the right amounts in it, and the warp-in is within 10km of about 8 chunks.
Rats will spawn far off the warp-in points at every belt I checked. 50km? Check. 100km? Sure. 200km? Why not?
My post is somewhat rambling, with little direction or coherency, and I apologize. But, in the end, it's like the belts it describes: all over the place, with little in the way of good things for locals.
Saying that seeding has been fixed, or that ore amounts have been boosted, is nice. Taking a ship (I know that Jove ships can fit survey scanners too!) and LOOKING will show why this is broken. So, I challenge anyone, Dev or whomever: Come out here, IN PERSON. Look at these belts, with scanners, and the tools players use. Then, after spending 15 or 20 minutes looking, and making notes, come back here, and tell us this isn't broken.
Free beer for those who mod my sig!
There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth *pushes the other mods out of the way* Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips I swear i was in on this and someone took me out -Scyd |
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CCP Prism X

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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:36:00 -
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I should perhaps explain, as vaguely as possible as information is power, what happened to the new regions. The problem as we saw it was that there were too many asteroids and too low total ore count. Resulting in a plethora of tiny roids which would pop on the first cycle of any decent miner. To offset that we've reduced the roid-count and increased ore-count per asteroid, aswell as tweaking the asteroid type spread a little bit. I can give you my word that the amounts were increased significantly, aswell as the average/minimum ore count per asteroid. As a side effect of this drop in asteroid count / increase in ore per asteroid count you can now find belts which have rather ludicrous (I just like that word) amounts of high-end ore in fewer asteroids, but as the asteroid count has been reduced a tad you'll have to search a bit more.
The problem with trying to compare new belt A to old belt A is that the nature of any seeder is to make things random. I can swear an oath on everything I hold dear as to an overall increase in ore count in these regions but I can't say anything about all belts being better. If one belt is below average, that means another is above average. This is the way we want it because having all solar systems uniform would greatly reduce the incentive to conquer more profitable space. I will grant you that this exact belt didn't come out a winner here, but the entire system it resides in did on the whole get some luvin'.
However, I'll grant you that they are very sparse.. everywhere. I can see how that's horrendously counter-productive and I intend to fix it. Dont really like this half-circle shape anyways.
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Karanth
Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:43:00 -
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I just appreciate someone coming to look. It means a great deal to have someone paying attention, and, even when things are broken, that someone is still able to look at it, and help fix it. My post was in a somewhat more aggressive tone than I prefer, and for that, I'm sorry.
As it is, it's still nice to see a Dev in local, and seeing what it looks like at our end.
Free beer for those who mod my sig!
There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth *pushes the other mods out of the way* Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips I swear i was in on this and someone took me out -Scyd |

Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:33:00 -
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I just realize; high end ore is indeed improved - but congratz on doing nothing to veldspar/scordite - they still pop in 1 cycle as b4 patch; 90-K veldspar - common.
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Christari Zuborov
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:51:00 -
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What exactly is the problem with the asteroids being spread out the way you're describing?
To me this sounds perfect, it gives you a lot of time to warp away from rats, it nullifies pretty much a solo pirate, and it gives you a couple of roids that you can really sink your teeth into.
So, is this really a problem? Can't we have gangs and warp to others when they've found a great spot? As it is with the set up YOU found, wouldn't that take care of a lot of Macro Miners?
Maybe I look for the good in stuff, but did we just stumble upon what we bring mineral prices back and help out the serious miners?
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w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X This is the way we want it because having all solar systems uniform would greatly reduce the incentive to conquer more profitable space. I will grant you that this exact belt didn't come out a winner here, but the entire system it resides in did on the whole get some luvin'.
No one conquers regions for veldspar.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
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Virtuozzo
IVC Consortium INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:05:00 -
[740]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: CCP Prism X This is the way we want it because having all solar systems uniform would greatly reduce the incentive to conquer more profitable space. I will grant you that this exact belt didn't come out a winner here, but the entire system it resides in did on the whole get some luvin'.
No one conquers regions for veldspar.
Chribba does
:-)
Virtuozzo
Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" *snip* Inappropriate. -Elmo Pug |

w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: w0rmy
No one conquers regions for veldspar.
Chribba does
:-)
Hes the exception to most rules 
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
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Miss Praise
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:13:00 -
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So just to recap:
You increase the roid quality, but reduce the roid quantity and by increasing the roid quality significantly you have overall increased the quantity of high end ore mineable in the drone regions.
But why did u severely cut the number of drone (rat) spawns so that there are hardly any anywhere in any solarsystem.
Is this a give in one hand and take from another?
If the latter above isn't a bug then I think it's time CCP removed the drones and made it like a normal system with bountied rats and proper belts.
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Mack Deluxe
PsyCorp INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:40:00 -
[743]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Virtuozzo
Originally by: w0rmy
No one conquers regions for veldspar.
Chribba does
:-)
Hes the exception to most rules 
Xirt too...
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CCP Prism X

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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:55:00 -
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About the rats in these regions: I didn't touch them.
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Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:02:00 -
[745]
Then you need to check them because they are definitely not spawning anywhere near what they were pre-patch.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |

Scorched Evil
The Silent Rage R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:14:00 -
[746]
Originally by: Farham
Then you need to check them because they are definitely not spawning anywhere near what they were pre-patch.
If by "anywhere near what they were pre-patch" you mean "at all" then yes, I agree.
CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
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Halada
Caldari Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X About the rats in these regions: I didn't touch them.
Well, someone touched them ... they hardly respawn ... flying through 25 belts in a system without seeing a single rat worries me ... its a dream for miners, but some people favor pew pew 
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Thrawntl
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:18:00 -
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Also please check the Drone Region Exploration spawn rate as well. The on board scanner sites dont respawn at all.
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:32:00 -
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The number of rats & complexes that spawn is pitiful at best. Belts spawns have been nerfed. The encounter (on-board scanner) sites spawn in really low numbers, an the explorations sites (use probes to find) I found 1 in 12 systems, and it was a grav (hidden belt)
Stop the carebear whine, Fix Cloaking |

Bubble Jet
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:38:00 -
[750]
I've had a number of corpmates find encounters with the ship board scanner.
They warp there, engage one BS, then 10 more spawn and a mess of scramble drones. Scrambled, can't warp out, no one can take that DPS, and they die.
And ice still isn't back.
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