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wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:21:00 - [1] well eve solo pvp = dead and its sucks tbh and i got an idea lets say u are in nice small cruiser and run on gate camp ( omfg bbq), well u got your ass shooted with loots of larbe uber bs guns and your small cruise explodes in like few secs so lets see those big guns should ripped everything from your ship, your mods yor cargo everything, not much survived from it other situation u in small inty just kileld total noob in bs your small guns didint make lots of dmg to his mods and cargo fitted so most of stuff should survive after his death so basicly idea is make loot droped from killed ships depending on what killed who big bloob killing small ship wont get much loot small ship solo killing big ship lots of loot ( not much destroyed) just like that easy and makes sence and will bost eve solo pvp tbh ty wierchas Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Alhallaa Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:23:00 - [2] Edited by: Alhallaa on 20/03/2007 17:27:10 If youre in a gang... '-50% hitpoints' '-50% DMG' '10000%+ DMG TO D-DAY'
M00dy Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:25:00 - [3] Good ideas all around. Pew Pew
Emma Green Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:29:00 - [4] /signed ---------------------------------------------- EVE-Files Don't run my drones will catch u anyway ..
Zemeckis R	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:32:00 - [5] /signed 100% agreed very good idea and make perfect sense
Emma Green Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:35:00 - [6] and maybe u should change the topic name a little bit .... so peeps see whats it about ... ---------------------------------------------- EVE-Files Don't run my drones will catch u anyway ..
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:37:00 - [7] Originally by: Emma Green and maybe u should change the topic name a little bit .... so peeps see whats it about ... why ? they see my name they think zomg its wierchas lets look on that topic !!!111one Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Xoduse Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:37:00 - [8] Most creative and original idea have heard in a long time, and great to be honest. It's simple, shouldnt be too hard to implement, and will encourage ppl to fight with even numbers more often. Too many times I've been in a gang looking for a fight, find a hostile gang, and they dont fight just because it will not be a guranteed win by blobbage. Whats the fun in fighting if you know you are going to win? ---------------------
inSpirAcy The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:40:00 - [9] That might even fit in with the idea of heat and module damage coming up in later patches. I haven't thought it through (it might be full of holes!), but it sounds like a good idea from the outset.
Segmentor Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:46:00 - [10] I believe there is a likewise system implemented atm, it just aint working right. Romor is that the more damage a ship takes after its functionally dead on the client side, the less loot there will survive. ---

Velsharoon Gallente Endgame.	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:51:00 - [11] I approve of any idea that makes soloing happen.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:52:00 - [12] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Emma Green and maybe u should change the topic name a little bit .... so peeps see whats it about ... why ? they see my name they think zomg its wierchas lets look on that topic !!!111one I have to agree with Emma Green. I opened the topic expecting a whiny rant, but instead found a good idea, so a topic name change would be in order. Anyways, /signed for your idea FLAMING When you can't think of logical arguments and are too dumb to STFU
Xori Ruscuv Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:53:00 - [13] Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 20/03/2007 17:50:28 Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well eve solo pvp = dead and its sucks tbh and i got an idea lets say u are in nice small cruiser and run on gate camp ( omfg bbq), well u got your ass shooted with loots of larbe uber bs guns and your small cruise explodes in like few secs so lets see those big guns should ripped everything from your ship, your mods yor cargo everything, not much survived from it other situation u in small inty just kileld total noob in bs your small guns didint make lots of dmg to his mods and cargo fitted so most of stuff should survive after his death so basicly idea is make loot droped from killed ships depending on what killed who big bloob killing small ship wont get much loot small ship solo killing big ship lots of loot ( not much destroyed) just like that easy and makes sence and will bost eve solo pvp tbh ty wierchas Wow, yeah... that's a pretty damn cool idea... Good to see you are still around Wier, I was afraid you quit... haven't see you post in a while. Passive shield tank is the new WCS!
Great Artista Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:54:00 - [14] Awesome ideas, as a full-time solo-pilot, I approve. ___________________________________
Sokratesz Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:56:00 - [15] You could make it dependant on the DPS the ship takes on hull or the average amount of other players aggroed on the ship in the past 5 mins or so. When its 2 or less, give loot a 75% chance of survival, for every aggro added reduce chance by 10% untill it reaches it's minimum of 25%. Or something like that. Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
Slaptastic	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:57:00 - [16] FFS thats amazing... Maybe I would see a ship smaller than a BS in low sec around my area /Signed, Wierchas is my new hero
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:58:00 - [17] Originally by: Sokratesz You could make it dependant on the DPS the ship takes on hull or the average amount of other players aggroed on the ship in the past 5 mins or so. When its 2 or less, give loot a 75% chance of survival, for every aggro added reduce chance by 10% untill it reaches it's minimum of 25%. Or something like that. no more like guns size, count of ships shooting on target and size of target Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:58:00 - [18] I'm not sure it 'fixes' solo pvp, but its a great idea nonetheless so /signed
F Apparition Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.20 17:59:00 - [19] Awesome idea man. As much as I love the sound of it, I don't think it'll get implemented directly, at least any time soon. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Kayl Butcher	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:00:00 - [20] Not a bad idea, signed for w/e it's worth.

Lucus Ranger Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:03:00 - [21] Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 20/03/2007 17:50:28 Wow, yeah... that's a pretty damn cool idea... Good to see you are still around Wier, I was afraid you quit... haven't see you post in a while. What?! Wier quit eve? Doubt that'll ever happen Anyway m8 I love your idea it's very cool... ♥ /signed /Prince of Darkness at your service..
Ione Hunt Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:16:00 - [22] That's actually a pretty cool idea! Signed! PS: Didn't you leave the game wierchas (twice)? _______________
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:18:00 - [23] Problem with the gang thing is that people will jsut disband gang when camping and/flying around... - I'm a nice guy!! and OMG I love Team Tuxford for the speedbalancing...
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:19:00 - [24] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 20/03/2007 18:21:50 Originally by: Pinky Denmark Problem with the gang thing is that people will jsut disband gang when camping and/flying around... its not with gang u can even not be in gang but if 15 bs will shot a **** they will not leave even peace of it its like rl like 15 tank killing your car or guy with stick who will leave more loot ? Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:20:00 - [25] Edited by: Wrayeth on 20/03/2007 18:16:53 \o Wierchas. It's been a while since BM-C. How've you been? I love your suggestion - anything that provides incentives not to blob is fine by me! I very much enjoy the solo or extremely small group (damage dealer + frig tackler) style of PvP, so this would be right up my alley. Good stuff, man. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" Might As well Train Another Race
MuffinsRevenger EmpiresMod	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:22:00 - [26] Cool idea! :)
Buzzmong Gallente 5punkorp	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:22:00 - [27] ^^ Lucus is a nonce 's a good idea tho, although Wier seems drunk as the spelling on his post is more appalling than usual. Perhaps it was due to him chewing on a knuckle while Eve was down...hmmz. --------------------------------- Go Web! Go!
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 20/03/2007 18:16:53 \o Wierchas. It's been a while since BM-C. How've you been? I love your suggestion - anything that provides incentives not to blob is fine by me! I very much enjoy the solo or extremely small group (damage dealer + frig tackler) style of PvP, so this would be right up my alley. Good stuff, man. yo ♥♥ well not bad atm i just come back from job my head hurts Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Crescens Caldari Explosions Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:23:00 - [29] Good idea - for it to work the difference between solo/group kill loot would have to be pretty steep I think, with almost everything surviving off a fair 1v1.
Chin'Mei New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:28:00 - [30] Great idea. Though I do like teamwork I still hate when it's enforced. In eve teamwork in PvP is enforced:( With such a change fighting equal opponents would be really rewarding. -------------------------------------------------- (Signature starts here) My oppinions are my own only, they do not reflect my corporation's or alliance's line of politics or whatever.

Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:44:00 - [31] Great idea. Infinity Ziona had a very similar one--basically, the faster something gets ganked the less loot survives. There's two problems that I see with it. One is I wonder if it's really technically feasible to keep track of. The second thing is it's kind of a big nerf not just to 5 BS on 1 frig fights, but also to 5 BS on 5 BS fights because of focused fire. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Leeoh	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:48:00 - [32] Edited by: Leeoh on 20/03/2007 18:44:44 awesome idea
gazarsgo Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:55:00 - [33] how sad, it's only been hours since the "nano nerf" and already the cries about solo pvp being dead...
Janos Zebratul The Forsakened Companions	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:58:00 - [34] i like that, /signed. ___________________ we have explosive.
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 18:58:00 - [35] Originally by: gazarsgo how sad, it's only been hours since the "nano nerf" and already the cries about solo pvp being dead... uhh can u read what i did post ?? i soo hate this new biiger and improved eve community like totaly don't remmeber who is who in eve ... Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:03:00 - [36] I see this as a nerf of gang PvP rather than a boost of solo PvP. So no, not signed. ------
Wardo21 The Arcanum	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:06:00 - [37] I like the idea, overkill = less loot and salvage. So consider this /signed for a good improvement to the game. However, I don't think it will balance PvP in the slightest. The decision to gank someone with overkill or get loot from them will probably come down to getting the killmail and buying modules and ammo. My choice would be to render overwhelming force on an opponent, not give them a fair chance so I might get something from the wreck. Kill the victim as quickly as possible to minimize my losses. Wardo21
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:08:00 - [38] Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade I see this as a nerf of gang PvP rather than a boost of solo PvP. So no, not signed. so how much loot u get from your blob ? Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:09:00 - [39] Originally by: Wardo21 I like the idea, overkill = less loot and salvage. So consider this /signed for a good improvement to the game. However, I don't think it will balance PvP in the slightest. The decision to gank someone with overkill or get loot from them will probably come down to getting the killmail and buying modules and ammo. My choice would be to render overwhelming force on an opponent, not give them a fair chance so I might get something from the wreck. Kill the victim as quickly as possible to minimize my losses. Wardo21 i dont say that u should dont get loot tootaly and btw i dont posted anythink about dps .. Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Blind Man Kemono. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:09:00 - [40] very good idea mr wierchas

Seph Res PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:28:00 - [41] best idea ever, keep it goin...this gets a bump
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:35:00 - [42] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: gazarsgo how sad, it's only been hours since the "nano nerf" and already the cries about solo pvp being dead... uhh can u read what i did post ?? i soo hate this new biiger and improved eve community like totaly don't remmeber who is who in eve ... As some of us mentionned, the title of your thread is misleading, which leads to nubbins posting flames without actually reading the OP. FLAMING When you can't think of logical arguments and are too dumb to STFU
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.20 19:35:00 - [43] /signed __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Borasao	Posted - 2007.03.20 20:11:00 - [44] Yeah, something like every ship that would be on the killmail gets a chance (modified by stuff said above, gun type/etc) to destroy the parts. Example: 10 ships would be on the killmail, every module has 10 chances to be destroyed. Not only does it make sense but I would guess that it'd be fairly easy to implement. It does mean that large blob battles would yield few parts but that makes total sense as many large ships firing on one ship should turn it into dust. Good idea, IMO.
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.03.20 20:32:00 - [45] I would far from agree solo pvp is dead, the most annoying thing though is seeing faction loot go pop, with the left-over T1 crud remaining. Perhaps that need looking at too, as well as the DPS put down onto a target... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.20 20:37:00 - [46] Anything that would remove minimum blob neccessary would be good. Problem is that most solo pvp you get this day is ganking npcers. Even intys tend to not engage alone. --------
Zirth Caldari The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.20 21:15:00 - [47] Edited by: Zirth on 20/03/2007 21:13:06 Making gang pvp extremely unprofitable as the little that does drop, you gotto split as well. Even if your 5-man gang kills a 100 man gang, each individual ship would get killed by 5 people, thus your idea suggest little mods survive, even though you go against massive odds. Also don't see why 5 interceptors would do more damage to modules than 1 interceptor. If you fire at a module 1 out of 10 shots, and fire the other 9 at shield (for example), if you fire 5 times as much you just kill him 5 times as much, the 'module destruction ratio' stays the same? In fact, if you kill a BS with 5 inty's, you kill him 5 times as fast, leaving 5 times less time for him to recharge shields/armor, thus leaving 5x times less time to fire 1 out of 10 shots at its modules, leaving 5x less destruction of modules. I like to promote solo PvP, but not always at cost of logic, and gang pvp.
Granth Roden	Posted - 2007.03.20 21:55:00 - [48] Very good idea, Wierchas. As for gangs splitting up and killing ganking - depends on the ratio of loss. Making it dependent on the caliber of guns related to your hull size (small on big= little damage, large on small= only the wings left) and how many hit how fast (DPS) makes it independent of number of people. Which means a lot of small ships will get more loot than a lot of big ones, BUT they have a harder time bringing down the prey too.
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:15:00 - [49] bump Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Tacyon	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:18:00 - [50] Bumping this with my alt too! --- The 'o.0'-boy.

SFShootme The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:19:00 - [51] "ok guys it's almost dead stop shooting now and let my light drone kill it!" Tho shall give Life, for Life.
Great Artista Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:20:00 - [52] Originally by: SFShootme "ok guys it's almost dead stop shooting now and let my light drone kill it!" Maybe the amount of people in killmail should determine it? ___________________________________
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:23:00 - [53] Originally by: SFShootme "ok guys it's almost dead stop shooting now and let my light drone kill it!" um do u get what i post it can be killed by light drones, but if it was waporized with lets say 50x 1400 artys it wont be much left Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
SFShootme The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:23:00 - [54] "ok guys it's just a mining barge i'll kill it!" really.... that won't work Tho shall give Life, for Life.
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:23:00 - [55] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 21/03/2007 11:20:03 double post ffs Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Raekone	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:34:00 - [56] Good idea in theory but would it make a difference? I thought the absence of solo pvp was more an issue of todays available ships/tactics/nerfs etc than actual cowardice?
The Vamp	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:37:00 - [57] Great idea /Signed
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:38:00 - [58] Originally by: Raekone Good idea in theory but would it make a difference? I thought the absence of solo pvp was more an issue of todays available ships/tactics/nerfs etc than actual cowardice? so its be like this if u want stuff dont ******* blob i dont say that if u gang someone with uber fleet u should wont get any loot well maybe only 20 % of stuff and if u kill solo with inty u should get maybe even 100 % Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Major Stuart Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:45:00 - [59] Normally all the loot from a ship i kill survives but hell if it would happen almost everytime id be even happier That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter. It is a combat drone used by carriers.
Raekone	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:47:00 - [60] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Raekone Good idea in theory but would it make a difference? I thought the absence of solo pvp was more an issue of todays available ships/tactics/nerfs etc than actual cowardice? so its be like this if u want stuff dont ******* blob i dont say that if u gang someone with uber fleet u should wont get any loot well maybe only 20 % of stuff and if u kill solo with inty u should get maybe even 100 % Well I suppose it would at least infuse the old style solo pirating with a breath of fresh air, you'd actually have a profit to make. But it would hardly put a dent in blob warfare tbh.

smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:49:00 - [61] I like this idea, actually makes solo pvp / piracy rewarding. Won't fix blobs (pretty much impossible) but nice anyway. sgb
Skeenee Al'Ramed Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:12:00 - [62] Excellent Idea, /signed
Atreides Horza Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.21 13:16:00 - [63] Edited by: Atreides Horza on 21/03/2007 13:12:17 CCP make it happen, ffs! /signed
eXtas Kemono. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.21 13:23:00 - [64] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Emma Green and maybe u should change the topic name a little bit .... so peeps see whats it about ... why ? they see my name they think zomg its wierchas lets look on that topic !!!111one hey that was exactly what I thought
Euphrezia	Posted - 2007.03.21 13:39:00 - [65] Fantastic idea! /Signed
Blitzkrieg Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.21 13:51:00 - [66] Excellent idea but it won't change much in the long run. Adding an accuracy penalty based on number of friendlies locking/firing at the same target would make sense (as it was in WW2 naval battles). CCP, you need to improve soloability in pvp, due RL constraints, you can't always be chained to TS, ganged for hours on end. You'll keep and attract more players-subscribers :P
Ningai Kyoukan	Posted - 2007.03.21 15:41:00 - [67] Originally by: Blitzkrieg Excellent idea but it won't change much in the long run. Adding an accuracy penalty based on number of friendlies locking/firing at the same target would make sense (as it was in WW2 naval battles). CCP, you need to improve soloability in pvp, due RL constraints, you can't always be chained to TS, ganged for hours on end. You'll keep and attract more players-subscribers :P To OP, very good idea, and this above is also a nice idea. To improve Solo pvp... and get rid of the blobing..
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2007.03.21 16:31:00 - [68] /signed
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.03.21 16:52:00 - [69] An interesting suggestion, but in your form I must strongly say NO! I claim that I do lots of solo PvP. Much more than most players do. And I do this in "big" ships. This typicly means that a normal situation is me in my BS/CS getting swarmed by a bunch of lesser ships (or of same size but poorly fitted). From my pow it is obvious that these players are ppl not ready to commit and put anything on the line, while they also lack the player skill needed. How is your suggestion then promoting solo PvP? Take for example one real situation. Me in my solo BS duked it out vs a mob of 9 players: 1 hac, 5 T1 cruisers and 3 frigs(mix t1/t2). At the end of it, one frigate had legged it and the rest were no more. Are you suggesting that I should have gotten **** all as loot? In the case of each destruction, it's just me in a big ship blasting a smaller ship in your suggestion. While in context, the situation was completely different. I don't see how the mechanics could facture in the context of a kill, and if that can't be done I don't see how your suggestion would promote solo-PvP at all. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.22 15:54:00 - [70] teh bump hello i am wierchas !!!! i pown yooooo

Valtrexx	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:05:00 - [71] doomsday?
Caldorous Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:41:00 - [72] It's a good idea but it has some drawbags, 50 vs 50 = no loot then :P (even it represents a fight with even numbers) Another thing that could be nice is that the loot recieved is reduced like the stacking penalty, this is, 1vs1 full loot, 1vs2 75% of the loot (or even more), 1vs3 40% of the loot, 1vs5 20% of the loot and so on... Another problem to that idea is that this game is considered a masive multiplayer game so a blob fight is part of the trick -----------------------------
Nather Ampraphel	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:01:00 - [73] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter other situation u in small inty just kileld total noob in bs your small guns didint make lots of dmg to his mods and cargo fitted so most of stuff should survive after his death Quick question: If your small weapons didn't deal lots of damage to the foe's computers / weapons / navigation systems / engine / you-name-it, why the heck he blown up? :/
Scilent Enigma Minmatar SpearMint Rhino GentleMen's Club	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:05:00 - [74] A very good and realistic solution. /Signed
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:06:00 - [75] Originally by: Nather Ampraphel Originally by: wierchas noobhunter other situation u in small inty just kileld total noob in bs your small guns didint make lots of dmg to his mods and cargo fitted so most of stuff should survive after his death Quick question: If your small weapons didn't deal lots of damage to the foe's computers / weapons / navigation systems / engine / you-name-it, why the heck he blown up? :/ duno.. why u dont have face ??? hello i am wierchas !!!! i pown yooooo


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