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QuikDeath
Back Door Burglars Wings Wanderers
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Posted - 2016.09.27 16:43:47 -
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Hello All,
So im looking to get into a rattlesnake to clear some anomalies , but also would like to PVP a bit.
Was wondering if you all would put your best fit forward for each.
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
840
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Posted - 2016.09.27 20:34:29 -
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what is the rat type in your area? may help get better input.
Here is my level 4 build currently (always pyfa'ing new ideas, this version 2 or 3 now) base to look at till anomaly pro's check in. As I understand they like a bit more tank sometimes.
5 X rapid heavy II 1 X DLA II
1 XGist B Large SB 2 X Racial Hard II's 1 X TP II 1 X Omnilink II 1 X Drone Navi II 1 X 100 MN AB II
3 X DDA II 2 X BCU II 1 X CPR II
1 X CCC II 2 X Rigor I
Navy racial heavies X 2 Navy racial medium X 5 Navy racial lights X 5
Design considerations:
I like having lots of cap. I can fall asleep for a few minutes playing eve lol....it helps if I have run long times on active tank, if not cap stable. 2 racial has me at about 30 minutes runtime. Invul II and a passive resist amp I am cap stable.
I like heavies over sentry because I am sniped out tbh. Cruise raven (variants), bit of time in rail kronos had me burn out on 80+ km target plinking. I like moving around and not baby sitting sentries on aggro shift.
Drones I like Navy for the ehp. Its a 50-60 DPS drop iirc from T2 drones. I can run the t2, I just like the ehp of navy more. Some rats likes blood raiders seem to really have a hard on for your drones. Other races don't seem to be so quick to aggro shift to them based on my gameplay.
reason I ask about rats is there is one or 2 gurista missions I don't like to run in my rattler. They beat the tank down hard. And with gurista you can't range tank. Missiles hit just as well at 5 km's as they do at 70 km's..I tengu these 1 or 2 iffy missions tbh. Better SB's kill my cap. Tank may not hold up to massive onslaught. Does me fine for say 90% of missions across all races. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2016.09.27 23:06:32 -
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No.
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
840
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Posted - 2016.09.28 03:40:12 -
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to what lol?
If me....not needing cap stable pull CPR, downgrade CCCII to 1. More tank a Pith B large a good choice....eats up some cap though. Rest is standard fair rapid heavy rattlesnake. 1 paint 1 omni better than 2 omni i have found. Paint I have have help missiles then when small stuff dead they help the drones a lot.
Low slot ft something else. BCU if I read right, and the person posted right will stacking penally faster on rapids so 3rd BCU may not be ideal. Can't find the source to cite though.
CCC I should clear fit for a rigor II + I, usual setup for missile chucking BS'. I'd advise the 1 CCC I just to keep some power flowing for an active tank.
AB would could be MWD out of empire. Or MJD but I like to go in with the rapids. And not have my drones humping 70kms across space lol.
Pimp to taste/wallet as always for it all. I like to post t2 fits as much as possible (rattlesnake will need shiny SB....or some fits run XL II'). Like to show with good fitting skills it all fits. Pimp is just to kill faster...not to have it even just flyable with all mods one of my things.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1423
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Posted - 2016.09.28 04:14:09 -
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Not you Zan. No was the answer to the question of the thread.
The question was, 'how do one fit a Rattlesnake, please give mah fit'. And you know that if you need to ask that question, you should not fly that ship.
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Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
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Posted - 2016.09.28 11:16:17 -
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elitatwo wrote:Not you Zan. No was the answer to the question of the thread.
The question was, 'how do one fit a Rattlesnake, please give mah fit'. And you know that if you need to ask that question, you should not fly that ship.
I strongly disagree. People flying ships without proper skills and/or fits are a great source of income and fun to others. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1423
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Posted - 2016.09.28 12:21:31 -
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Gregorius Goldstein wrote:elitatwo wrote:Not you Zan. No was the answer to the question of the thread.
The question was, 'how do one fit a Rattlesnake, please give mah fit'. And you know that if you need to ask that question, you should not fly that ship. I strongly disagree. People flying ships without proper skills and/or fits are a great source of income and fun to others.
Hmm.. On the other hand, you make a good point!
Okay so here is how you should fit your Rattlesnake:
5x Estamel's modified cruise missile launcher 1x Unit Z- some numbers drone control unit
Cormack's modified 500mn mwd 2x Estamel's modified invulnerability field Estamel's modified X-Large shield booster Chelm's modified cap booster Tobias modified warp disruptor Tobias modified stasis webbifier
3x unit z- some numbers drone damage amplifiers 2x Estamel's modified ballistic control Chelm's modified powerdiagnostic control
8000x dread guristas inferno cruise missiles
And your "head-gear" High-grade crystal alpha-omega Zor's hyperlink And the +6% missiles implants
You cannot do anything wrong with that and you will be unstoppable
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Artorius Noir
Loyalty and Royalty Inc.
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Posted - 2016.09.28 12:45:54 -
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I approve of almost all above postings.
P.S. Where does thou intend to fly this fine vessel? *Grabs Pen* |
QuikDeath
Back Door Burglars Wings Wanderers
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Posted - 2016.09.28 13:48:31 -
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LOL.. Im in Angels territory I already know the tanks and dps types needed..
Since the rattler has been our for a while and most of the threads are ancient in their relevance, I figured I would get a new thread going that has more updated tweeks to it.
For the record, the forum is supposed to be helpful and contribute to a pilots learning etc etc.. but im sure you already know that.
With that said, getting solid base fit data provides a starting point for my own tweeking. Sure check range, check dps, check tank but wanted to see some builds of all kinds and cherry pick from those what I think is best for my situation. |
Aranavia
Free Lancer Corporation Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2016.09.28 14:36:34 -
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Rattlesnake's fit for making 10/10 anomalies we use - https://textby.link/YDOVZeRc |
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Tung Yoggi
Null Sect
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Posted - 2016.09.28 15:50:15 -
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And here's a pvp fit
Quote:[Rattlesnake, Unnamed loadout] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II IFFA Compact Damage Control F-89 Compact Signal Amplifier
Large Micro Jump Drive Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Warp Scrambler II Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 3200 Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Gecko x1
The fit itself shouldn't be costly at all. You can switch the heavy neut for a large EM smartbomb for ec-drones, but i would personally keep it. Strong Blue Pill is advised. |
Cyclone Organic
Norsefire Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:17:41 -
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Two different PVE fittings:
The first one is cheaper with no blink. One thing to mention, I haven't tested if this fitting is sufficient to tank some challenging anomalies. [Rattlesnake, ASB fit]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Explosive Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
The second one is much more tough, but of course costs more as well. [Rattlesnake, XLSB+ CB fit]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Explosive Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-603 |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
840
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Posted - 2016.09.29 00:45:04 -
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QuikDeath wrote:LOL.. Im in Angels territory I already know the tanks and dps types needed..
Since the rattler has been our for a while and most of the threads are ancient in their relevance, I figured I would get a new thread going that has more updated tweeks to it.
For the record, the forum is supposed to be helpful and contribute to a pilots learning etc etc.. but im sure you already know that.
With that said, getting solid base fit data provides a starting point for my own tweeking. Sure check range, check dps, check tank but wanted to see some builds of all kinds and cherry pick from those what I think is best for my situation.
Angels should be nice then. My 0.0 rat experience was in blood space for the most part...and they love to hit drones. Make the joke if I even thought about releasing drones they start to take damage in the drone hold still lol. Angels seem to be more lenient with the agro shifts. Not as insta shift drone blood thirsty anyway,
The old fits found may be still be valid. They'd be the passive rattler most likely I'd be guessing, what I see when googling. these are for level 5's at this point. Or really lazy and slow rat killing. They had their hay day when afk drone farming worked before rat agro shift. Passive still viable in that it works. Its just active works much better since you get much better damage application since you run mods/rigs for that.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1424
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Posted - 2016.09.29 03:46:52 -
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My suggestion was for pvp.
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We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1424
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Posted - 2016.09.29 03:50:42 -
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Artorius Noir wrote:I approve of almost all above postings.
P.S. Where does thou intend to fly this fine vessel? *Grabs Pen*
You are a sneaky one.. I said I would fit it this way, I didn't say I would undock with her.
Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike.
We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1424
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Posted - 2016.09.29 03:52:50 -
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Zan Shiro wrote:...The old fits found may be still be valid. They'd be the passive rattler most likely I'd be guessing, what I see when googling. these are for level 5's at this point. Or really lazy and slow rat killing. They had their hay day when afk drone farming worked before rat agro shift. Passive still viable in that it works. Its just active works much better since you get much better damage application since you run mods/rigs for that.
They are. I am flying mine in the Angel Extravaganza mission + bonus room. It's all good.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
852
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Posted - 2016.10.07 23:03:35 -
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Wouldn't recommend doing pvp in a pve fit, but wouldn't recommend doing pve in a pvp fit either... |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
847
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Posted - 2016.10.08 05:32:14 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Wouldn't recommend doing pvp in a pve fit, but wouldn't recommend doing pve in a pvp fit either...
depends on the ship and the pve lol. Bored waiting for a form up caldari missile chuckers can do both for basic belt cleaning. Speed sig tank cerb/caracal or passive drake while not isk per hour monsters.... you can make some isk while killing time. |
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