Mika Firestorm
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Posted - 2016.09.29 22:18:54 -
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Arrendis wrote:This is generally seen as a beneficial goal, even among the majority of the State's political class, who understand that the words 'freedom' and 'chaos' are not, in fact, synonyms, and recognize that the Caldari State's war against the Federation began as a war for self-determination. Excuse me for intervening into your discussion with Ms. Hanaya, but on other hand it doesn't matter much since you yourself built your whole reply on a Caldari State - a topic that I have been researching for several years, trying to get their citizenship, and a topic which I assume has nothing to do with Ms. Hanaya's reply.
And as someone who actually did some background study about the State, I simply can't stand obvious disinformation you include in your reply. Namely - your sentence that I have quoted. I have given you already a thorough reply how freedom and chaos in official Napanii language are polyseme (no, not a synonym) here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6655065#post6655065 And I am utterly disappointed you still failed to understand it. Synonyms are multiple words with a single meaning, while a polyseme is a single word with multiple meanings. I bet you reference them as 'synonyms' after Diana's speeches (who unfortunately loves speaking about freedom because of her political inclination, causing a lot of unnecessary confusion and misunderstanding) , but that only shows that you have failed to understand that trivial linguistic phenomenon. And it makes it twice worse that you failed to understand it even after the explanation.
There are a lot of other languages in the State, and while most of them are derivatives of ancient Caldari, modern speakers of Caldari dialects from different regions won't even understand each other. But these dialects are considered 'street' languages, which you don't speak in high society. Thus, we could make assumption that actually State's political class speaks on Napanii to show their affiliation with elites and educated class, and therefore we can expect that speakers from State's political class won't distinguish words 'chaos' and 'freedom' as well.
On the other hand, they could speak 'street'-level language, but then it won't be State's political class, but rather State's marginal class that loves to banter about political events. Unfortunately, I haven't studied them that deep and know words for 'chaos' and 'freedom' only from the official Napanii language - 'vaajpa'. But since you have been claiming otherwise, maybe you will actually show that you have something behind your reply rather than trivial attempt at trolling and show us that unlike me you know some dialects of native Caldari languages.
Please tell us, what are words for 'freedom' and 'chaos' in the dialect of Caldari language that you were referencing?
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