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Linnth
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Posted - 2007.03.22 06:49:00 -
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I remember back in the days when I was roaming around by myself in low sec looking for someone to target. Every now and then I would find someone, and we would have a what's it called again? A one on one fight, where the best man/best fittings won. What happened to those days? The only pvp I get now is in blobs where fighting the lagg is harder than fighting the enemy ships!
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Zirth
Caldari The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.22 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zirth on 22/03/2007 06:58:37 I know what you mean, it's still there but rare. Meaning the few fights that you get barely are *good* fights.
There's some 0.4 systems where you can get nice 1on1s, but it's mostly 3 day old caracals. There was one week where I killed a dozen cruiser, logged on for 30min, found a fight, I swear, each time I ripped em apart (not in some battleship or anything), and didn't even bother to pod. I'd sit there for 5minutes after he died, and he hadn't even warped out the pod, I always checked info and it always said 3-5 days old.
Left for 0.0 after that. But it's mostly just gate camps, or fleet battles when there's a war.
So now I'm going back to lowsec to find some fights again, hopefully not 3day olds who's cargo combined are not worth the sec status hit of attacking a single player.
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Linnth
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Posted - 2007.03.22 07:21:00 -
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We might run into each other some day :p
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Dynast
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Posted - 2007.03.22 07:26:00 -
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Best places to go for 1v1's are probably the NPC station 0.0 regions.. Syndicate especially, but Stain and the rest to a lesser degree. Sure, there are gangs and bubbles, but you'll also find people who aren't with one of the blob alliances, and some of them will be up for a fight.
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Alan Maher
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.22 07:58:00 -
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If you want fights come to Hedaleolfarber in Molden Heath, talk about easy 1v1's
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.22 10:53:00 -
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Grab a reasonably fast ship and roam 0.0..plenty of small gangs / solo pvpers / npcers about...and with some skill and fitting sense you can outurn most gatecamps.
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
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Mathias Orsen
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Posted - 2007.03.22 10:57:00 -
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I think it's just that more people know better than to just toss themselves openly into death. seriously, would you want to fight something that you knew would pop your ship without even giving you the chance to put up a fight?
One of the major things that drove people out of solo PVP were jammers. It was no contest against them. Today we still see the result. That's my opinion anywho. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get" |
mlove
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Posted - 2007.03.25 01:45:00 -
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I get 1 vs 1 fights all the time in a .4 i know of which is a dead end system with a .5 leading into it. No real bad pirates live there, only some ppl come to do alittle pvp once in awhile or mine. i love just waiting for the next guy who wants to fight come in
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Misanth
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Posted - 2007.03.25 02:09:00 -
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I'm still dreaming of ever seeing this. Played since 2005 and only seen gang pvp, or camps, ever. Never ever a 1 vs 1. I tried to initiate a few but with all the means (speed, earlier wcs, etc) to get out of scrambling there's hardly any point.
Wish all the stabilizers and speed boosts were removed, as well as warp to zero. And of course remove bubbles. All of it, now. If you're so afraid of dying in 0.0, bring friends. If not, expect to be jammed and to fight, fit for fight.
Still enjoy this game but atm it's only the roaming-gang pvp or gate-busting that is fun. Refuse to retort to bubbling or camping myself.
Currently we see these scenarios where I live, north: 1) Gate or station camps. 2) Lone recons (or the rare manticore bombers) that try to find the few miners that forget or don't care about defence. 3) Roaming gangs of approx' 10 people that jump in/out in hostile system and possibly get some kill. 4) Bubbling (generally dictors) of lone people trying to transport stuff/themselves up/down pipes. 5) The very rare fleet battles, usually the followup vengeance after some gatebust or station camp.
In 0.0 south I generally saw: 1) Gate or station camps. 2) POS Warfare. 3) 30+ RA logging on/off and creating traps and/or using exploits. 4) 30+ Goons gatecamping and running off when any group of 15+ approached. 5) The AFK-guys in local, in every system, 24/7.
No 1 vs 1. In theory everyone can escape from everything. The few players you manage to scramble or web or jam is usually caught unaware or is inexperienced.
Where's the options for those that want to log in, pvp for a short while, log out? Where's the option for those that arn't in big alliances? Afaik devs work on ways to remove the blob/camps but I wonder if it'll go another 2 years before I see any real 1 vs 1 or at least some 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 in this game. It's still fun but would be alot more fun if it was viable to pvp in small gangs.
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Spei Prodetor
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Posted - 2007.03.25 02:11:00 -
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i still solo alot... though tbh it really is rare to find 1v1 encounters without alot of risk involved so i end up with 1v5's and come out on top alot =)
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mlove
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Posted - 2007.03.25 02:22:00 -
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Eve-mail me and i will give you or anyone a 1 vs 1 anytime. I love that stuff. As long as its 1 vs 1 no corp mates waiting on the gate to jump in. Just let me know when and i will tell you where.
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Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.25 02:38:00 -
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Make a crappy new character skill train it for a bit, and go pirating. YOu can usually find anyoene within 3months old being a nice good fair fight in belts. As for me this one im posting with has 813k sp and uses cheap T1 stuff and I can tell you I have had some of the best fights in the little rifters this character flys. In terms of being able to pirate anything you cant do that solo. It takes awhile to find a good target, but from my experience they hang out in the .4 systems near safe zones.
Another good thing is that its easy to keep pirating with this kind of alt, i think I transfered a Total of bout 3mil and I have lost more ships than I can count and I still got some to spare. Just buy everything in bulk, including ships and transfer it all to your base of operations and fit them all, and your set.
Originally by: Scordite Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi?
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.25 03:06:00 -
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CCP needs some kind of stacking nerf on multiple ships targetting one ship. Maybe based on sig radius so (just as an example) up to 5 ships can target a frig, 7 ships a cruiser, 8 ships a battlecruiser, 10 ships a battleship. After that things go downhill fast for extra people trying to target the same ship and shoot it. Obviously things like a Titan needs to allow for 30 ships to target it with any hope of killing it.
Anyway, don't get hung up on my numbers. They are just for illustration and whatever a good balance would be I am sure it could be found. This would reduce blob tactics and the ensuing lag and bring back what the OP wants which is small gang fights or maybe even 1v1 (although I think small gang fights were more fun...3v3, 5v5, 3v5...stuff like that).
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 03:12:00 -
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HP changes and warp to zero. Getting backup is so easy these days. -----
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2007.03.25 03:45:00 -
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Only the most hardcore of sorts solo nowaday. I can't go without soloing... its half the fun tbh. If it wasn't for the solo thrill i wouldn't have as much fun as i do now.
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Wrayeth
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.25 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 25/03/2007 04:01:24 I try to solo a lot, but most of the time I just end up facing forces I have to run away from or can't engage in the first place. Everyone has backup these days, and it's usually not just one other ship - it's more like five.
EDIT: And the hitpoint changes did exactly what I thought they would and completely screwed solo PvP. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Mortuus
Minmatar Just-fun Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.25 05:58:00 -
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Solo PvP exists for those willing to do it.
Take a ship out, go looking for trouble. Solo PvP doesn't mean 1v1, and 1v1 at least for me is hardly fair anyway. I like it when its me vs 3-14 of them. Much more fun. My current Hurricane has been alive for over 2 weeks of constant combat and has 80+ kills to its name.
You may love solo fights, just don't be stupid enough to expect your targets to agree with you.
ex-Occassus Republica <3 |
tiberiusric
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Posted - 2007.03.25 06:38:00 -
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have to agree with op,finding solo pvp is harder than it used to be.
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Ardan
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.25 10:49:00 -
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I don't know, but I have been involved in solo PVP 2 times in the last 3 times I logged on. Got Jumped by a Malediction with t2 blasters last night while in my Rifter. Had him to half structure before my ship Popped. "Let them hate us as long as they Fear us." Colligula |
Laboratus
Gallente BGG Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2007.03.25 12:00:00 -
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People have gotten smarter and no longer go alone in vulnerable ships. With the death of nanophoons, even they don't roam around anymore. The forum community hath all solo ships slayeth with teh forum whine. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
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Velsharoon
Gallente Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 12:05:00 -
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I only liked solo in nanophoons. Now i do it in a vaga but i cant break tanks. I use them as your fighting carebears whose defence is to blob (and you cant begrudge them that if you invading thier space)
Now I dont really bother and just fly with corp mates. Still fun but not quite the same. O well hopefully im not playing eve as much :)
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DarkElf
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 12:10:00 -
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from a recent thread of mine it seems that it has not died out and many still do solo. yes there are a lot more 'blobs' out there than there used to be but u just have to be very cautious and not let it get to you when u get ganked, which will happen a lot probably.
yes it's not like it was, but it hasn't died out
DE
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.03.25 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alan Maher If you want fights come to Hedaleolfarber in Molden Heath, talk about easy 1v1's
The one time my corp went there, we were shooed out with a large group of pirate-killer civilians and a gatecamp that could make any pirate cry if he wasn't stabbed up, or in a frigate.
We were in a group, though, but the feel of the place is blob heaven.
Oh and thank you for posting the name, my corp was trying to pronounce it and we sounded like a bunch of buffoons, I couldn't remember the name of it.
They've told me we're never going back, and I don't make destination suggestions anymore.
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Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog |
Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.03.25 15:14:00 -
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I think there are a lot of reasons why solo fights are becoming rarer....
1. Space is getting more crowded. EVE is growing, but space isn't (new regions mean little here). 2. As said WTZ means it doesn't take long for help to arrive, and extra HP means you may last until it does. 3. Most players moving around solo are NPC'ing, exploring, mining etc. They don't want to fight (and usually aren't equipped for it) 4. Recon ships generally PWN all other shiptypes in 1v1's. 5. The high cost of T2 items mean nobody really want to risk their ships, so group gankings become the norm. 6. The chokehold design of stargates encourage gate camps at the chokepoints. Solo people can often not move during prime time for this reason.
...and probably many more....
Personally I don't think there is a hell of a lot to do about it, unless these points (and others) are adressed, and I frankly don't see that happening within a reasonable timescale......
The two things which I think should be done to reduce the problems are: 1. Suddenly discover MANY new regions (double or triple the size of low-sec and 0.0).... 2. Reorganise the stargates so all the obvious chokepoints are removed.
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wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.25 15:16:00 -
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oh man u all are so wrong ..solo pvp is alive and kicking well bit diferent those days .. cos u now need 3 chars to do it .........
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Leandro Salazar
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.25 15:26:00 -
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You know, if you guys want real solo PvP, just meet somewhere and duke it out regularly.
If you want solo ganks otoh, just suck it up and stop complaining about targets not wanting to get ganked calling in backup --------- There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Kestrel
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.25 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar You know, if you guys want real solo PvP, just meet somewhere and duke it out regularly.
This is tempting. Fight club on TQ anybody? :D
sgb
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e DREAD.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: smallgreenblur
Originally by: Leandro Salazar You know, if you guys want real solo PvP, just meet somewhere and duke it out regularly.
This is tempting. Fight club on TQ anybody? :D
sgb
You know it's not that solo pvp is dead. It's that it's so easy to kill your opponent if you know he is coming. It use to be hard to solo 3 years ago. Now it's easy to overpower people and think it's skill.
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Brain Sweeper
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Posted - 2007.03.25 17:00:00 -
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Hmm...
Its hard to speak about these things since im 4 months old player and havent seen a lot of action around. I got killed few times in the begining now usually i warp out before or beeing warp jamed in a booble.
I have to say this if something isnt done concearing 0,0 or small pvping people will start leaving the game. Game is great but i feel like im paying for the same things as everybody and not gething the same things in return just like catle for butchering to BOBs and others. Old corps that have taken 0,0 space and with this war now u cant get even close to 0,0 especialy solo even ganged u cant break the gate camps. Mine and a lot of small corps HAVE TO play 0,4 - 0,1 or in empire and its getting VERY BOOOORING.
No small pvp fights, no good npc to hunt, Gate camps everywhere especialy in 0,4 - towards 0,5 and all pipes that lead to 0,0.
I dont know how was the game before but it is a lot unbalanced and the old players concearning to their 0,0 teritory have huge advantage in having FUN playing eve and on the other hand small corps dont have enough space to play.
I know that i dont know sh.. about this game yet but thats the way i feel game is getting boring more and more.
We need more 0,0 but not on some big alliance doors!
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Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.25 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Brain Sweeper Hmm...
Its hard to speak about these things since im 4 months old player and havent seen a lot of action around. I got killed few times in the begining now usually i warp out before or beeing warp jamed in a booble.
I have to say this if something isnt done concearing 0,0 or small pvping people will start leaving the game. Game is great but i feel like im paying for the same things as everybody and not gething the same things in return just like catle for butchering to BOBs and others. Old corps that have taken 0,0 space and with this war now u cant get even close to 0,0 especialy solo even ganged u cant break the gate camps. Mine and a lot of small corps HAVE TO play 0,4 - 0,1 or in empire and its getting VERY BOOOORING.
No small pvp fights, no good npc to hunt, Gate camps everywhere especialy in 0,4 - towards 0,5 and all pipes that lead to 0,0.
I dont know how was the game before but it is a lot unbalanced and the old players concearning to their 0,0 teritory have huge advantage in having FUN playing eve and on the other hand small corps dont have enough space to play.
I know that i dont know sh.. about this game yet but thats the way i feel game is getting boring more and more.
We need more 0,0 but not on some big alliance doors!
Not true. I went out to 0.0 when I was 3 months old. The game hasn't changed THAT much since I was a noob.
If you wanna take some 0.0 space, just man up, rally your corp, choose a system, and DO it. There's plenty of NPC space where people don't really go.
I would recommend Esoteria - you get nice RISE spawns there, as well. _____________ WE ARE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS VOLTAGE OVER CURRENT.
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