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Sayuri
Tachyon Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:08:00 -
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Why is it that there exists no hotkey for the commands "Engage Target" or even "Return to Dronebay"?
It seems to me that would make our lives so much easier.
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:15:00 -
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signed
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jizzmonkey
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: ****monkey on 25/03/2007 16:18:53
if we had a hot key for everything, we wouldnt need a mouse, and people would go out of business, kids would get hungry, women would sell themselves on the streets(the fathers meanwhile would develope a large skag addiction to cope with it all), all to save 0.1s in pvp, do u want that over your head?
and if so, then you're commited and should have your lil hotkey
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:33:00 -
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I remember making this arguement in september '05. Im sure others have been requesting it even eariler.
The only reason why they havent is a known fear of CCP's.
That is, everyone will want a hotkey for everything. Not only will this require more programming and possibly a rework of the code, but it will also move EVE closer to a twitch game.
CCP has stated they deplore the idea, and will work against it.
I honestly think they're nuts, controlling drones is hard enough, hotkeys would make it manageable.
4.5 mill drone player, out.
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Friends Forever
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Horza Otho
Minmatar
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2007.03.25 17:50:00 -
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signed, signed and signed.
4 mill in drones and spending 90% of my time playin with drone folders 4tl
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.25 17:51:00 -
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Maybe F9 could be "Launch drones and engage target".
F1 through F8 gets a new friend! 
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wierchas noobhunter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.25 17:53:00 -
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 Originally by: lofty29
Maybe F9 could be "Launch drones and engage target".
F1 through F8 gets a new friend!
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Kery Nysell
Caldari
Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.03.25 18:25:00 -
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Meh, I have almost 6M in Drones, and I actually enjoy the micromanagement needed to use drones effectively ... a hotkey won't change a thing for me, but that's only my humble opinion 
I would rather see some corrections to the drone AI, seeing them traveling 35 kms and then forgetting their target and coming back is frustrating to say the least (and there's a bunch of other bugs too).
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Sayuri
Tachyon Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2007.03.26 15:57:00 -
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You see, I don't know about you guys but I've got a pretty decent PC and even with a decent setup I get a decent amount of Menu Lag, deploying drones and micro managing them would be so much easier if it wasn't for the lag there....
all the while gunnery and missile boats have their f1-8 buttons... why would it be so bad to give us the same?
Either way I like drones but really tho it's a double standard to say giving us a keybind would make it too easy for us while at giving it to the other types of weapons...
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hereward rowland
Macrocosm Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.26 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sayuri
You see, I don't know about you guys but I've got a pretty decent PC and even with a decent setup I get a decent amount of Menu Lag, deploying drones and micro managing them would be so much easier if it wasn't for the lag there....
all the while gunnery and missile boats have their f1-8 buttons... why would it be so bad to give us the same?
Either way I like drones but really tho it's a double standard to say giving us a keybind would make it too easy for us while at giving it to the other types of weapons...
can i have a hot key to mine a whole belt and haul back to my station... ow and another to sell the to market, or maybe auto build when i have the mins in my hanger... ow wait think some ppl did that and got banned for it
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.26 17:39:00 -
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/signed i want to be able to get my drones to engage targets in missions without paying any attention at all now!
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Isonkon Serikain
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.26 17:42:00 -
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That would be nice...
Meanwhile, many pilots are still using the hotkey for 'evade warp bubble'... I thought CCP managed to fix it but it's still possible to log off inside of a dictor bubble and not die.
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hereward rowland
Macrocosm Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.26 17:43:00 -
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if you put it that way... id like my drones to attack things i ask them to, other than, them just setting off on there own little wiggle and attacking far off targets that arnt even attacking me... no that would save me buying drones after every mordus mission 
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Rufus Toya
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Posted - 2007.03.26 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Rufus Toya on 26/03/2007 18:04:33
Originally by: goodby4u
/signed i want to be able to get my drones to engage targets in missions without paying any attention at all now!
You can already do that. What's being asked for is the ability to 'tell them what to do' with a button on the keyboard. You know that device aside the mouse? It also happens to be the device you use to tell your missiles what to do.
Sheesh people these days.
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Sexorella hotz
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2007.03.26 18:54:00 -
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Keeping the keyboard out of the picture makes micro writing much more difficult, that's pretty much all there is to it I'd expect. If you're at the controls, using your mouse is not that much different from being able ot use the keyboard.
Besides drones already make a lot of things possible AFK...like dropping into a mission, getting agro, and launching drones and letting them slowly whipe out the mission while you run to the market. They don't need to make them even easier to use without actually being at the controls.
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Arushia
Nova Labs
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.03.28 03:54:00 -
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Please CCP, save my poor right mouse button.
Empire Research and Nova Labs |
Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.03.28 05:36:00 -
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Signed.
Drones are a weapon system. They should have a button like any other weapon. |
Face Value
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Posted - 2007.03.28 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Face Value on 28/03/2007 18:48:26
/bump
/signed
/cheer
What we really need is a seperate control panel, something that you can have apart from the overlay. The OL is already crowded when I solo, but once I get into a fleet .. it's just a big mess.
We don't really need hot keys (to fight macroers) but we do need buttons for attack, return to drone bay, etc that we can operate with the mouse.
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Belenkas
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.28 19:09:00 -
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Opening weaponry is as easy as that. Now controlling drones is a pain in the ***.
Signed, by Amarr player that has less than 10k SP in drones.
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Simon Jax
Gallente
Freedom Guard
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.28 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Simon Jax on 28/03/2007 19:15:44
Why would having a hotkey to command deployed drones to engage the selected target be any different than having a hotkey to engage a weapon? Damn, some people can be downright batty in their objections to this idea.
No one has asked for a drone i-win button, just a key to send 'em to target and fight, and maybe one to recall them to orbit. Or *gasp* a whole third hotkey to command all deployed drones to return to drone bay! Not like assigning one to F9, another to Alt-F9 and the *gasp* third to Ctrl-F9 would be drastically different than the current commands to activate modules. (F9 just being an example from earlier, any available key would do).
Yes, yes. I can totally see how such a suggestion is akin to asking for a "get out of warp bubble free" button or adding a doomsday weapon to a Domi.  Good grief people.
That said, I really want my drones to obey the commands given to them under the current system properly. I swear if my Warrior II's stall out 1,510 m from my ship and slow to 1m/s again I might just have to shoot them myself and to hell with the cost.
--Wherever you go, there you are.
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Zyo Zack
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Posted - 2007.03.28 19:20:00 -
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I go a litte bit farther ... let us assign hotkeys to drone-groups (folders). Each group should allow to assign 4 hotkeys
1st launch drones
2nd engage target
3rd return and orbit
4th return and scoop
and it should all be configurable inside the station :o)
Zyo
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Rannoc
The New Synergistic Collective
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.02 13:39:00 -
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./signed
./bumped
Please dev, put in hotkeys for drones. Drones are the only weapon system that has to walk through menus to be use. One misclick and our drone return to orbit instead of engaging target turning a winning battle into a lost one 
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.02 13:43:00 -
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/signed.
Although don't forget we already have hotkeys for the following drone commands:
1) Do nothing at all.
2) Engage a random target.
3) Turn your mwd off.
4) Pick the nearest drone and hump it.
If I can only figure out which buttons I am hitting by mistake everything will be ok
sgb
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.02 13:45:00 -
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The drones and drone handlings are in a sad state. Hotkeys would certainly help, but more than hotkeys I would like the drones to actually do what I tell them.
They often refuse to return to dronebay when I tell them, they attack the wrong targets, they agress on ships I havent even locked. I have even lost ships outside 4-4 station in Jita when my drones agressed a neutral which I didnt have locked (those concord BSes really hurts).
I wish the drones would be 100% stupid, and never do anything at all except what I order them to, neither more nor less. That would solve so many problems.
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Caffeine Junkie
Caldari
Elite Storm Enterprises
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.02 13:54:00 -
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/signed
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Azuse
The Brotherhood Of The Blade
The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.05.02 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Azuse on 02/05/2007 14:23:38
Originally by: Sayuri
Why is it that there exists no hotkey for the commands "Engage Target" or even "Return to Dronebay"?
It seems to me that would make our lives so much easier.
The problem isn't hot keys it's the interface & ai, i can't imagin a single person here enjoys telling their drones to engage a target only to see then split off and do what they want once they get there. Non do i believe anyone enjoys the cluttered state of their overview while keeping track of dones health while watching gang member health and dealing wih drone groups.
Small changes would make a huge difference imo, such as altering health readings to match those of gang members (three small bars) and stopping groups popping open and closed when drones are recalled (dear ccp, when i closed a group i did it because i wanted it closed. Improvemnts to ai which would only require commands to be issued once would help a great deal and lest be honest, drone ai has never been great.
Each major patch has introduced its own bugs, but all patches effected drone ai, something is not quite right here.
Considering the age of the current client and the number of patches it has gone through it really is holding up extremly well, i can only hope that as CCP write the new client they take on board constant criticisms and try and make all our lives a little easier.
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Dzajic
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.05.02 14:29:00 -
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Signed.
Macroes! Who in the right state of mind would script mission farm with drones. Theyve got missles for that you know.
Drone control interface as it is now is an atrocity and a crime against man kind. Turret or missile user just locks the target and goes through the F1-F8 mantra, a drone user has to do a million clicks, has to contract overview in order to see the full drone interface, and has a nice option of miss clicking and selecting something behind the transparent interface, or merely remove the drone control panel.
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n0thing
Northern Intelligence
Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.05.02 14:31:00 -
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Heres our drone users, beloved thread where you should be going to:
Drones need love
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.05.02 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: hereward rowland
Originally by: Sayuri
You see, I don't know about you guys but I've got a pretty decent PC and even with a decent setup I get a decent amount of Menu Lag, deploying drones and micro managing them would be so much easier if it wasn't for the lag there....
all the while gunnery and missile boats have their f1-8 buttons... why would it be so bad to give us the same?
Either way I like drones but really tho it's a double standard to say giving us a keybind would make it too easy for us while at giving it to the other types of weapons...
can i have a hot key to mine a whole belt and haul back to my station... ow and another to sell the to market, or maybe auto build when i have the mins in my hanger... ow wait think some ppl did that and got banned for it
Sure. Once you've selected (targetted) your roids, hit F1-F8. Once you dock, target (select) the item, and sell it.
I agree that there should be configurable shortcuts for all menu options (clicking view market, then sell, is a pain ). But otherwise, sucking roids is just the same as shooting something.
Heck, it would help you mine with shortcuts to mining drones.
But yes. Been here since beta, been wanting this since beta.
/signed.
-J
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Oedus Caro
Caldari
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.05.02 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Oedus Caro on 02/05/2007 15:27:07
I do have to agree with the op. It should be as easy for a drone ship as it is for a turret or missile ship to engage a target, but right now it just isn't. Clicking on small areas of the screen requires precision an order of magnitude greater than mashing the F keys, and as a result it takes considerably longer. 
Would it really be so difficult to assign all drones to one of the module shortcuts? Every ship has at least one such shortcut free, due to module layout...
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