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Face Value
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Posted - 2007.04.06 22:35:00 -
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/bump
We need hotkeys, and thats it, if we got nothing else, I would still be very happy.
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Sheriff Jones
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Posted - 2007.04.07 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Face Value /bump
We need hotkeys, and thats it, if we got nothing else, I would still be very happy.
Well, not much of a /bump there, but anyhoop.
If you get hotkeys(which would be nice, even if i don't find then "necessary for survival"), i want weapon linking ala x-wing. Like a key for guns 1-4 and 5-8 as an example.
Originally by: Curzon Dax 1. I am not singing Ducktales.
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ansuru Starlancer on 07/04/2007 01:37:34
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Face Value /bump
We need hotkeys, and thats it, if we got nothing else, I would still be very happy.
Well, not much of a /bump there, but anyhoop.
If you get hotkeys(which would be nice, even if i don't find then "necessary for survival"), i want weapon linking ala x-wing. Like a key for guns 1-4 and 5-8 as an example.
I have that. 's called a G-15. :) Fix my drones plsthx.
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Dabora Blade
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Posted - 2007.04.07 01:50:00 -
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/signed
one thing i dont understand is i send my drones 60 km to a target. they get say for example 50 km of the way there. stop and then randomly target something else.. but why dont they ever randomly target the ship they are now 10km away from? lol instead the say i know what lets do another marathon and go another 60km to a diff target and do it all over again?
Please fix drones!!!
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Lain Runner
Comando Vermelho SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.07 03:10:00 -
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I just would like to see a better control interface. Today you can control all drones in space just clicking on the "Drones in Space" (duh) tab with the right button and issue the commands. You can even create groups to manage the drones. Cool, but all this on the overview.
In a gang (with squads wings and all), you overview becomes loaded with lots of information. A management (free from the overview) window would be a nice start.
I am kinda against hotkeys and such tough. Managing the drones is part of the game.
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Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.04.07 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: Andargor theWise on 07/04/2007 04:44:36
Originally by: Lain Runner I just would like to see a better control interface. Today you can control all drones in space just clicking on the "Drones in Space" (duh) tab with the right button and issue the commands. You can even create groups to manage the drones. Cool, but all this on the overview.
In a gang (with squads wings and all), you overview becomes loaded with lots of information. A management (free from the overview) window would be a nice start.
I am kinda against hotkeys and such tough. Managing the drones is part of the game.
I assume yoiu have been in lagfes... uh, fleet battles. Right-clicking and ordering your drones around (repeatedly) can be a pain with all the lag.
To be on par with gun and missile users, drones need hotkeys.
- Got grief?
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2007.04.07 08:09:00 -
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Ah one I haven't seen yet, lets reply to this one too :)
So what are the good points about drones (fighter isn't technically a drone)?
First off we have the damage types, you can do 1 damage type! Great for pounding on the shields or armour with EM of Explosive, great for killing people with tanking holes. Drones are an addition to your normal weapons, most ships in eve have a drone bay, everyone should learn tech II light drones because it's a great dmg addition, very easy to learn and makes you happy when fighting smaller targets. Drones can help you break a tank in different ways: combat drones, webber drones, jam, paint, neut drones. Drones taking care of DPS, means you can free up high slots for stuff like NOS/Neut, Gang mod, drone link.. euhm.. smartbomb.. or something
Sounds like about enough :) But do they have bad things?
Drone 'features':
Drones can be destroyed. This is the only weapon system that can be destroyed in EvE today (mines were taken out and those were launched with missile launchers, missiles can be taken out by defenders/smartbombs, but that doesn't affect the launcher). Sure you can pick your damage type, but you have to do it before leaving station, or bring smaller drones on big ships. Unlike missiles, of which you can just bring several dmg types in you cargo bay, drone space is filled up fast and heavy. Drones are bugged. Most were mentioned here already, like the randomly attacking of targets while disobeying standing orders (mostly on heavy drones, mostly on ogres being the slowest), failing to return to drone bay. Drones are the single most easiest way to scan people in deadspace. Drones do not get a damage module. The only other weapon system that doesn't have that is the smartbomb. All turrets and launchers can benefit from a damage module. While we're at it drones have no implants/hardwirings. All turrets and launchers can benefit from a multitude of implants/hardwirings. Drones do not get tech II modules. All turrets and launcher can benefit from tech II modules. The only tech II drone related stuff that can be invented are rigs (although apparently they were fixed now so rigs should actually work for drones now). There are no slick Function keys for drones, no shortcuts, no useful GUI (ever tried being in a fleet with a drones ship.. you have the overview, fleet window and drone window all bunched up in one side menu.. useful). Drones didn't get the HP increase. Tech II drones don't get tech II resistances. To get all those 'my ship can use 5 heavy tech II drones for uber dps' setups you need about 3.5M sp in drones.. and like I said they can be destroyed (fairly easiliy by most people these days). Better hope you don't get disconnected because your drones will prolly be dead. Warping out can lose you overall dps..
So yeah if they want to keep in drones they would have to make some fixes and changes I think.
Then again a couple of years of EvE have tought me that really the devs LIKE drones.. but HATE the lag. I figure they will just keep these 'features' in to keep the drone usage in eve down enough to accomodate the 30k players at a time.. Not being bitter, just being realistic.. if you can have 30,000 players with 5 drones each.. great, but if your hardware doesn't support it..
For years drones have gotten shafted on a yearly basis.. I don't think this year will be different.. Who cares about drones when you can lure people in with ambulation..
/sighed (pun intended)
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MasterDecoy
Gallente Raddick Explorations NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.04.07 08:47:00 -
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nonononono! you guys got it all wrong!
the drones are behaving like because it's part of an arc, a storyline if you will, where the drones AI is slowly being corrupted by whatever went wrong with the drones in the new regions. right?
now that we have the NPC "smacktalk" feature in local chat, the drones will one day go ape****, shout "freeeeeeeeeedoooooooooom" and turn on their previous "owners".
one of my hammerhead II's, under intense torture, already confessed to this and also shared a plan to attack jita kamikaze style using amarr drones. "they don't have a will to live" he said.
he was put out of his misery not long after.
it's all planned you see...
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BANDID
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.07 09:00:00 -
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huh what are u whining about my drones come allways back and allways attack in packs i guess u guys dont have the listen to boss implant YB-10
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Inc MuadDib
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Posted - 2007.04.07 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: BANDID huh what are u whining about my drones come allways back and allways attack in packs i guess u guys dont have the listen to boss implant YB-10
In some parallel universe they maybe do.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.07 16:22:00 -
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-Go there -Attack this -Come home
I would settle for that. Although it was more amuseing a year ago when drones went nuts on gangmates.
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Mjedesiin
Gallente G.A.T.O.
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Posted - 2007.04.08 06:00:00 -
[252]
bump
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.08 06:56:00 -
[253]
Not even gonna bother reading this.
signed
sgb
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Audemed
Wraiths Reborn Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.08 08:33:00 -
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Just got my carrier yesterday to find out that fighters are one-time use things, they don't return to the bay -.- ------ Currently stationed in Iraq, 280 days left to go! http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0701/audzealotiniraq.jpg
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Stribog
Caldari Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.04.08 11:05:00 -
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It's a pretty good isk-sink though, get the drones to craaaawl back to your ship forcing you to warp out on them. ------------------------
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.04.08 12:01:00 -
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Ahh, I see this thread got dumped in the ships and modules forum. Good way to hide it.
Thanks. --
Originally by: Kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Face Value
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Posted - 2007.04.08 15:44:00 -
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I think the main problem with Drones arenot drones themselves, but with the overlay. Yes, there are other issues with AI, but I feel that these are purposfully put there to balence drone effectiveness with other weapons systems.
My biggest beef with drones is that, even if you discount the lag, it takes me far too much time to get commands to them. And all this time is me having to take my eyes off the battle and sift through the overlay to get to the propper command. Plus sometimes I have to issue that order twice to look after any drones that decided to ignore my order.
This issue could be solved by making the individual panes in the overlay window seperatable so that we can drag and drop them any where on the screen or give us buttons above the the module bar. They don't even need hotkeys like other modules have.
The first three bottons would be ATTACK, RETURN/ORBIT, RETURN/DOCK. Then you would have five more buttons for however many drones you have out. Perhaps you'd have a 6th button for ALL DRONES. So I can sellect all five drones or maybe just a single drone, then issue a command by hitting one the the first three buttons. These 8-9 buttons would fit very nice above the high slot buttons. Easy, problem solved.
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AvatarOfHope
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Posted - 2007.04.08 15:54:00 -
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Come on devs say something! Drones need to be boosted! "Hohohoh we wont go!"
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Daelin Blackleaf
No Joy Corp Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2007.04.08 20:50:00 -
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We are still here
Our drones... are somewhere over there.
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Snikkt
Time Cube Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.08 21:12:00 -
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It's so awesome watching my Ogre II's sloooooowly crawl back to my ship, all the while being chewed up by a horde of angry.
/signed ------------------- My opinions (ie, all of my posting here) are not my corporations. Nor should it be taken as such. |
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Michel Nostradamus
Nostradamus Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.08 22:20:00 -
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/signed
Drones/fighters need to be more intuitive. I would like to atleast see what effects my skills have on them without having to ***** out the calculator. |
ChuMak
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Posted - 2007.04.09 00:24:00 -
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Lol, the thread was friendly bumped away to S&M forum.
Yeah, that pesky cannon fodder really annoying sometimes.
Crap, I really feel bad about starting to learn Caldari Frig, Caldari Cruiser, Caldari BS and Missiles line skills from ZERO. Do I have another choice ?
/me go mine veld.
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Caldari Online
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Posted - 2007.04.09 00:27:00 -
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/signed
specilly that anoying bug where my lovelys gain full shields on insta dock/undock
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Highlord Nicolai
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Posted - 2007.04.09 01:13:00 -
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I dont know if this has been said, but as the OP (I suspect this means the original poster, if not then thats what I mean) Drones need love.
I was ready to go give him the: love? you are out of your mind!
However now I see it, he didn't want more dps from then (I played wow for 2 years, so forum stupidity is still bound in my contiouns) but intelligence, which I HAVE to agree on!
We are in the year what? 200 millenier since the Wormhole to the home galaxy broke, which at that point must be at least have counted as 5000 years from precent time. So thats 5000 years (rough guess) + 200 milliener and we still haven't figured out a way to make a drone system? PAH!
DRONE SYSTEM NEEDS LOVE! I DARE YOU DEV's
P.S. I would like to thank the dev's optimistic view on how long they guess the human race will survive, good to see some has comfidence in us (hehe)
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Spenz
Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.09 01:45:00 -
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Well at least CCP hasnt rusted away their best skill.....if its a big problem sweep it under the rug.
/bump
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NateDogg
Big Huge Labs
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Posted - 2007.04.09 06:20:00 -
[266]
What they said. ^^
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2007.04.09 07:10:00 -
[267]
bump again
for a short time (around RMR I think), drones basically had their 'intelligence' turned right off... they'd attack only what you told them to, then return to orbit... this may have been in response to people's complaints about gang-members being attacked...
I actually liked that. I'd have much fewer issues if drones simply acted like mobile guns that didn't care if you were being shot at by something else. Until drones AI can actually be improved, perhaps they should not have an aggro list at all (again).
Since I'm training for a carrier now, I would like to have some assurance my 20 mill fighters won't end up as stupid as my ogres are currently.
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AvatarOfHope
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Posted - 2007.04.09 10:34:00 -
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/bump
Come on devs speak to us...
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Leumas Ebmocnud
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2007.04.09 11:27:00 -
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bumpety bump bump,
This needs to be resolved.
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Gene Wolfe
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Posted - 2007.04.09 12:06:00 -
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My god what is wrong with drones? Do i have Drone Stupidity LVL 5? I tell them to engage a target. THey all pick different things to fight. I tell them to ENGAGE THE DAMN TARGET. They go about their own bussiness. They finally kill the target after 3 tries to get them to enage and start randomly acting a structure. I tell them to return to drone bay. They come at me...then go fight that evil structure again. How can this be anything but mentally retarded code?
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