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Alizebeth Amalath
Order of Jamyl
498
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Posted - 2016.10.29 02:01:29 -
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After seeing the latest news, I am horrified.
Every ship of the Apostle-class that was launched is a monument to the martyrdom and sacrifice of Empress Jamyl. For the Blood Raiders to desecrate such a shrine is disgusting, even beyond their normal sin and heresy.
They must be destroyed. The ships and the Blood Raiders.
Normally if a shrine is desecrated, it should be cleaned and sanctified again to be restored to its proper use. I did something similar myself with the Cerra Cathedral after the Blood Raiders desecrated it last year. However, in this case it would not be feasible, so I call on every capsuleer to destroy these ships where they are found. |
Omega Jovakko
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
592
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Posted - 2016.10.29 04:20:33 -
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Is "Destroy the Blood Raiders" /NOT/ already on everyone's "To Do" list?
"that's just blatant Anti-Caldari Propaganda, this Janitor must be arrested at once!"
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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
552
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Posted - 2016.10.29 05:47:39 -
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Hmm. I'm sure blueprints will soon fall into capsuleer hands. It's a question of when, not if. And when that happens, I'm sure you as all others will jump to fly them--ah, before proper sanctification, of course.
Sin and heresy surely fall by the wayside when there's capital NOS-fed reps to be had.
~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~
"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn."
-Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1737
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Posted - 2016.10.29 05:54:54 -
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What news is this ?
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Omega Jovakko
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
600
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Posted - 2016.10.29 05:56:14 -
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Valerie Valate wrote: What news is this ?
in short, Blood raiders did some Blood raiding right after some important stuff happened. They're an insult to capsuleers everywhere and must be wiped out of the universe.
"that's just blatant Anti-Caldari Propaganda, this Janitor must be arrested at once!"
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1738
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Posted - 2016.10.29 05:57:45 -
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Omega Jovakko wrote:Valerie Valate wrote: What news is this ? in short, Blood raiders did some Blood raiding right after some important stuff happened. They're an insult to capsuleers everywhere and must be wiped out of the universe.
Well, I don't see it on the Scope. Do you have a source ?
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Omega Jovakko
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
600
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Posted - 2016.10.29 06:04:24 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Omega Jovakko wrote:Valerie Valate wrote: What news is this ? in short, Blood raiders did some Blood raiding right after some important stuff happened. They're an insult to capsuleers everywhere and must be wiped out of the universe. Well, I don't see it on the Scope. Do you have a source ?
I'm the wrong person to ask about this, i'm summarizing the OP. this news is not known to me either. I too would appreciate a source report of some kind. Even if someone from the Scope could confirm.
"that's just blatant Anti-Caldari Propaganda, this Janitor must be arrested at once!"
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1739
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Posted - 2016.10.29 07:51:40 -
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Ah, it appears to be a new Scope report, just recently released.
Hmm. Titans. Well, that's going to complicate someone's day, I'm sure. "Molok", really now Omir.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2897
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Posted - 2016.10.29 08:09:58 -
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Spirits and gods have longer memories than humans. And they don't forgive those, who desecrate temples and sacred places of different religions and beliefs.
By doing so these Blood Raiders brought on themselves and their families too much troubles. It will be their downfall.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
118
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Posted - 2016.10.29 11:20:15 -
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Frankly speaking class ship Apostal looks disgusting. The one who designed the this ship has not been Amarr. It's my opinion.
BUT: I begin to understand my brother. That's why he would like to was a monument Empress Jam-âl Sarum in orbit Amarr Prime. What would no one could desecrate it.
Eh ... will have to fulfill his will, and start accumulating PLEXs for the financing erection of the monument. Sooner or later I will do his will.
P.s Me and my friends from the organization "Shadow of Purity" continue to destroy ships Blood Raiders.
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
678
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Posted - 2016.10.29 14:19:03 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Ah, it appears to be a new Scope report, just recently released. Hmm. Titans. Well, that's going to complicate someone's day, I'm sure. "Molok", really now Omir.
Molok is indeed an unacceptable name for a starship. The Sani Sabik worship God, not Molok. |
Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1755
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Posted - 2016.10.29 17:12:22 -
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Nauplius wrote:Molok is indeed an unacceptable name for a starship. The Sani Sabik worship God, not Molok. You sure about that?
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Jade Blackwind
1198
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Posted - 2016.10.29 19:19:40 -
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Molok was but a mortal man who fought aganst the early Amarr state. It is the Amarr themselves who made first a symbol of deceit out of him, and then, after long millennia of scripture thumping, some kind of arch-daemon or whatever they now think Molok is.
They made Molok's memory immortal with their own fear.
So why not? A fitting name for a Covenant ship. |
Matar Ronin
2351
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Posted - 2016.10.30 17:49:30 -
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Omir puts in action the vile inhumanity that is the essence of the slavery cult.
The fact that many amarrians shrink from his reflection in their mirrors proves that even their wicked souls are not beyond redemption. Abolish slavery, emancipate all the slaves and join the civilized people of the New Eden Cluster sons and daughters of amarr.
The past is unchangeable but together in peace we can all build a better future for humanity in the New Eden Cluster.
It is not too late to embrace peace, only your heart can truly defeat hate, change your heart and change the future of the cluster. Humanity must unite and embrace our diversity, sons and daughters of amarr reject the horrors that are the slavery cult, emancipate the victims and join the rest of us in peace, human to human it is possible if we all have the courage to change our hearts.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
483
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Posted - 2016.10.30 22:24:16 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Molok was but a mortal man who fought aganst the early Amarr state. It is the Amarr themselves who made first a symbol of deceit out of him, and then, after long millennia of scripture thumping, some kind of arch-daemon or whatever they now think Molok is.
They made Molok's memory immortal with their own fear.
So why not? A fitting name for a Covenant ship.
I think this is an accurate assessment. Molok was bad, and Molok is dead. He was killed by Amash-Akura a long, long, time ago. Continuing to use that man as a reference for evil and deception empowers him beyond the grave. Sadly, too many Amarrians seem to thrive on making potent symbols out of bad people. We should be focusing on the greatness of God and Amarr, not "Molok", "The Butcher," and "The Tyrant Shakor." |
Alizabeth Vea
Seraph's Wings
984
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Posted - 2016.10.31 00:07:12 -
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As a member of the Order of Jamyl, I agree.
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Virtue. Valor. Victory.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
6603
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Posted - 2016.10.31 15:58:48 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Omir puts in action the vile inhumanity that is the essence of the slavery cult.
The fact that many amarrians shrink from his reflection in their mirrors proves that even their wicked souls are not beyond redemption. Abolish slavery, emancipate all the slaves and join the civilized people of the New Eden Cluster sons and daughters of amarr.
The past is unchangeable but together in peace we can all build a better future for humanity in the New Eden Cluster.
It is not too late to embrace peace, only your heart can truly defeat hate, change your heart and change the future of the cluster. Humanity must unite and embrace our diversity, sons and daughters of amarr reject the horrors that are the slavery cult, emancipate the victims and join the rest of us in peace, human to human it is possible if we all have the courage to change our hearts.
Now that's well said. Pragmatism can overcome hate if we allow ourselves to act in the best interests of ourselves AND everyone else.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2898
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Posted - 2016.11.01 11:54:24 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Omir puts in action the vile inhumanity that is the essence of the slavery cult.
The fact that many amarrians shrink from his reflection in their mirrors proves that even their wicked souls are not beyond redemption. Abolish slavery, emancipate all the slaves and join the civilized people of the New Eden Cluster sons and daughters of amarr.
The past is unchangeable but together in peace we can all build a better future for humanity in the New Eden Cluster.
It is not too late to embrace peace, only your heart can truly defeat hate, change your heart and change the future of the cluster. Humanity must unite and embrace our diversity, sons and daughters of amarr reject the horrors that are the slavery cult, emancipate the victims and join the rest of us in peace, human to human it is possible if we all have the courage to change our hearts. Now that's well said. Pragmatism can overcome hate if we allow ourselves to act in the best interests of ourselves AND everyone else. Tribals won't understand this, Tuulinen-haan. I had unfortunate encounter with this one specimen, it was lacking basic cognitive abilities.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
6609
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Posted - 2016.11.01 16:06:18 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Omir puts in action the vile inhumanity that is the essence of the slavery cult.
The fact that many amarrians shrink from his reflection in their mirrors proves that even their wicked souls are not beyond redemption. Abolish slavery, emancipate all the slaves and join the civilized people of the New Eden Cluster sons and daughters of amarr.
The past is unchangeable but together in peace we can all build a better future for humanity in the New Eden Cluster.
It is not too late to embrace peace, only your heart can truly defeat hate, change your heart and change the future of the cluster. Humanity must unite and embrace our diversity, sons and daughters of amarr reject the horrors that are the slavery cult, emancipate the victims and join the rest of us in peace, human to human it is possible if we all have the courage to change our hearts. Now that's well said. Pragmatism can overcome hate if we allow ourselves to act in the best interests of ourselves AND everyone else. Tribals won't understand this, Tuulinen-haan. I had unfortunate encounter with this one specimen, it was lacking basic cognitive abilities.
Well we can hope. The sooner everyone buggers off back behind their own borders, the better.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Matar Ronin
2426
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Posted - 2016.11.01 18:06:20 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Omir puts in action the vile inhumanity that is the essence of the slavery cult.
The fact that many amarrians shrink from his reflection in their mirrors proves that even their wicked souls are not beyond redemption. Abolish slavery, emancipate all the slaves and join the civilized people of the New Eden Cluster sons and daughters of amarr.
The past is unchangeable but together in peace we can all build a better future for humanity in the New Eden Cluster.
It is not too late to embrace peace, only your heart can truly defeat hate, change your heart and change the future of the cluster. Humanity must unite and embrace our diversity, sons and daughters of amarr reject the horrors that are the slavery cult, emancipate the victims and join the rest of us in peace, human to human it is possible if we all have the courage to change our hearts. Now that's well said. Pragmatism can overcome hate if we allow ourselves to act in the best interests of ourselves AND everyone else. Tribals won't understand this, Tuulinen-haan. I had unfortunate encounter with this one specimen, it was lacking basic cognitive abilities. diana the only encounter you had with me was discovering your mouth could not back up the bs that vomits from it. It is unfortunate for you your loud racist talk could not scare me off and I insisted on a fight to decide our differences. When the time came to put up or shut up you lacked the honor and courage to do either.
diana you lack basic honesty. You are a disgrace to your people because you also lack honor. Piling up the bodies of capsuleers who simply respawn to fight against the state does not give you honor. It just feeds your blood lust, you are indeed a good ally for the likes of Omir.
You lacked the honor to fight on the terms your big mouth said you could, then you lacked the courage to reveal your location to fight on the terms you hid behind.
These are the undisputed facts, diana kim you lacked the courage to fight me, a regular industrialist. Explain that.
You don't represent the proud Caldari people, you represent the shadow of the darkness that once infected them in the person of the criminal racist terrorist thug tibus heth.
You are not fit to wear the honorable livery of the "Caldari State" on you it is not a uniform, just a costume, to hide the coward shivering inside it. diana you have been reclassified as gank bait, unworthy of a duel you'll hide from, so death must hunt you down.
Spew any racist remarks you like but we all know your actions are those of a coward in any race an in every empire.
When humanity unites, and one day we will, diana you no doubt will become a pirate spamming local with childish racist trash talk and still running away from duels.
On a side note, can you perhaps explain why you had a male corpse in your dropped cargo? I heard stories that you had abnormal desires but you should explain them yourself, Caldari are not usually known for such kinky behavior. Again this demonstrates how much more you have in common with Omir than with most of the proud Caldari people.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1464
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Posted - 2016.11.01 18:14:39 -
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An upgrade from the model thorax? |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2899
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Posted - 2016.11.01 21:12:20 -
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Matar Ronin wrote: These are the undisputed facts, diana kim you lacked the courage to fight me, a regular industrialist. Explain that.
That's too much of tears from such a terrible liar like you. Though I don't think word liar could be applicable to you. In another discussion for several pages you dared to call me to fight, I told you I would, and you kept spewing similar.... delusions over and over again.
You need a medical help.
Well, maybe someone from IGS would find a better word to describe phenomenon of this Matar Ronin? In short, his behavior was looking like this:
Matar Ronin: - Fight me! Cmdr. Kim: - Okay. Matar Ronin: - You coward, you don't fight me!
Maybe it is an intrinsic brain behavior of minmatar people? That could explain why they still attacking Amarr Empire for what they did 800 years ago, unable to realize that everyone who lived back then is long ago dead.
I can make just one conclusion: diplomatic and civilized talk with tribals is a waste of time. Dear defenders of Amarr Empire. Raise your guns and fight this menace until it is no more. Together we will defeat this inconvenience.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Mengyao Chemineau
Sanxing
34
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Posted - 2016.11.02 09:51:48 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Maybe it is an intrinsic brain behavior of minmatar people? Is it an intrinsic brain behavior of capsuleers named Diana Kim to make sweeping generalizations about trillions based on a sample size of one (1)? |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
18797
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Posted - 2016.11.02 10:03:40 -
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Its just a ship, stop being Amarr about everything.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2901
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Posted - 2016.11.02 12:30:57 -
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Mengyao Chemineau wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Maybe it is an intrinsic brain behavior of minmatar people? Is it an intrinsic brain behavior of capsuleers named Diana Kim to make sweeping generalizations about trillions based on a sample size of one (1)? When you have a bag of apples, you draw a random one and it appears to be rotten it is valid to say that it was the bag of rotten apples. And I am generally not interested in digging in the rot to find a fresh apple there.
But if you would like to prove me wrong - go ahead and present the apple itself instead of primitive ad hominem attack. You know, such approach simply shows that you have nothing valuable to object my point of view with, which only strengthens my initial statement (which was, actually, just a guess in which I myself wasn't certain, but with your reaction now I am getting more convinced in that point of view).
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
61
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Posted - 2016.11.02 13:44:41 -
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Diana Kim wrote:(which was, actually, just a guess in which I myself wasn't certain, but with your reaction now I am getting more convinced in that point of view). You and I both know you'll never change your insane mindset regardless of what facts people present
Down with the traitor and up with the stars!
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2510
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Posted - 2016.11.02 14:23:29 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Its just a ship, stop being Amarr about everything.
Amarrian ships are a little more than just ships, to the Amarr. You can think of them (the big ones, especially) sort of as flying cathedrals. They're tools of God's work; seeing such things taken and corrupted by the likes of Bloody Omir ... well, for most designs, at least it's nothing new.
This, though....
For the Amarr, opposing the Sani is a matter of ongoing civic and religious duty dating back all the way to the Moral Reforms (so, thousands of years). It's like a civil war, but asymmetric and maybe kind of sporadic-- a violent fight against a political and religious faction that just will not stay dead. I've seen enough of this conflict up close to have a sense how brutally personal it can be.
Holy Mother Amalath is also particularly dedicated to the late Empress, so there's that sort of personal element here as well. |
Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
121
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Posted - 2016.11.02 14:38:56 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Its just a ship, stop being Amarr about everything. Amarrian ships are a little more than just ships, to the Amarr. You can think of them (the big ones, especially) sort of as flying cathedrals. They're tools of God's work.
Amarrian station is also the work of God. But when the citadel called Temples. This disrespect for Amarr culture as the Citadel is not the creation of God. Appearance does not meet the the culture.
The Apostles are depicted drifters (killer) and the death of the Empress. The one who coined the design, he does not respect the Empress Jamyl Sarum. Monuments should symbolize great ruler deeds in life.
The apostle had already been desecrated disrespect on the part of the Designer.
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2510
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Posted - 2016.11.02 15:30:41 -
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Vollhov Jr wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:Its just a ship, stop being Amarr about everything. Amarrian ships are a little more than just ships, to the Amarr. You can think of them (the big ones, especially) sort of as flying cathedrals. They're tools of God's work. Amarrian station is also the work of God. But when the citadel called Temples. This disrespect for Amarr culture as the Citadel is not the creation of God. Appearance does not meet the the culture. The Apostles are depicted drifters (killer) and the death of the Empress. The one who coined the design, he does not respect the Empress Jamyl Sarum. Monuments should symbolize great ruler deeds in life.The apostle had already been desecrated disrespect on the part of the Designer.
... so, yes. As you see, Ms. Skalski, this isn't "just" about "a ship." |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
18937
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Posted - 2016.11.02 17:10:05 -
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For me it is. A man made structure that is like a sword and shield and lacks any unnatural properties. Stating it have some sacred value is overstating for me, as an engineer. Their "godly" value doesnt surpass the designer - human - abilities to make something work. Emotional reaction when someone would "desecrate" it because he paited it different colours or modified armor or shields is like crying about someone sitting one time in your chair because he could have farted.
This is from me as an angineer.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
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