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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.10.30 01:23:45 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:Galaxy Duck wrote:An anti-ganker being completely ignorant of the mechanics involved in ganking? Shocker... Maybe you can show me some of my anti-ganker activities that I have so far been engaged in as it would come as rather a surprise to me. You display a complete lack of knowledge of game mechanics, sometimes you even suggest implementing features that are already in the game. You also display a visceral hatred of CODE. and ganking in general. You pretend to support the existence of ganking but will always feel it is in need of One More NerfGäó. If it looks like a duck, -well you know the rest... No I believe that the lack of penalties for a negative sec status are a problem due to the lack of balance and the same goes for destroyers.
While you believe in keeping the imbalances as they work in your favour, no matter what. As I said you add little to any discussion, being your only concern is yourself.
In relation to alphas I think they will cause large problems, even though their DPS will be just over half what is mostly used now for ganking. The primary problem will not come from the new players but from the older EvE players who can reek havoc for free and throw the account away when they are finished having fun. Given the low cost of destroyers mixed with free accounts a large number of industrials, frigates, ventures etc.. are going to go boom and all for no net benefit to the game.
Do I think CCP is right to let them start with the ability to gank. Yes actually, if for no other reason than seeing whats the worst that can happen. |
Tiberius NoVegas
Stellar Exploration Consortium
9
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Posted - 2016.10.30 01:52:29 -
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I get what there saying when they ask about -10 sec status. As the current system stands -5.0 is really the worst you can get because anything beyond that doesnt really provide any further penalty. This did make me curious on what the purpose of going all the way to -10.0 functions is for. Also even if you are -10.0 in high sec, as long as you warp to your destination right away you will never draw any aggro from concord (unless you attack someone) and even then you can allways bring your standing back to 0.0 by just spending a week or two killing pirates. I get the reason for this as a game function to allow a player to still be allowed content of the game and pursue his occupation of ganking or pirating. When you stop and think about it thought, risk vs reward, the risk of having negative sec status is really more like a slap on the wrist. Gankers can be -10.0 and fly around high sec all day and even gank again (alpha strike provided) and all they have to do is wait a few mins then they can go back at it in high sec. Not profitable but also not unheard of for people to do this. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1900
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Posted - 2016.10.30 02:28:07 -
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Tiberius NoVegas wrote:..... Also even if you are -10.0 in high sec, as long as you warp to your destination right away you will never draw any aggro from concord (unless you attack someone) and even then you can allways bring your standing back to 0.0 by just spending a week or two killing pirates....... \
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA....um....no.
There is a reason they implemented sec status tags. These tags are Not Cheap, because they are not Easy To Get.
But go -10 and rat back to 0.0 in a week. Prove me wrong.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
608
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Posted - 2016.10.30 02:32:36 -
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I went from -6.2 (I was a bad girl...) to -0.1 with about 320m isk worth of tags. Now I just hit 5.0 yesterday, so do you know what that means?
Time to gank and pod a miner back down to 3.0 sec status. Set me red, boys!
YC 117 New Eden Capsuleer's Writing Contest Submission - "Heartache"
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1900
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Posted - 2016.10.30 02:40:58 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:worthless pathetic drivel
Keep your useless SJW...excuse me....'carebear'....garbage out of my game.
I do not give a damn about CCP's financials. It's their company, not yours, not mine. If they screw it up so bad it fails, I have no doubt crybaby losers like you will infest my Elite Dangerous. And I will kill you there too.
The fastest way they can kill their company.......aside from garbage like Vampy: World of Dorkness or another fiasco like DUST 514...... is to listen to anything 'people' like you....and I use the term loosely.....have to say about this game.
You don't like PVP? DON'T PLAY EVE.
seriously.
GTFO
Star Trek Online awaits you.
And its even free.
You can even mine there!!!
So get lost, and we adults will not miss you One.
Single.
Bit.
Oh, and I love how you SJW creeps...I mean carebears....just ASSUME the Alpha hordes are going to become gankers.
One second.....HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
Aheh.......sorry, if anything, they will get sucked into the damn mining crap. At least they can only use Ventures, altho I expect to see Mining Vexors again.
Maybe even a Mining Gnosis, since that's the biggest ship Alpha's can fly.
This is a sandbox game, unfortunately for you. IF they all decide to go on a GANKING RAMPAGE, being they are all 12-year old idiots that just came from Call of Duty, then that's THEIR choice.
Not yours.
And if a bunch of Alpha's can manage to nail a freighter, then hurray for them.
At least they are actually PLAYING THE GAME.
Unlike you.
So get lost.
Don't come back.
Ever.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2016.10.30 02:48:56 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Overstated rage Seriously get some professional help.
You need it. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1900
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Posted - 2016.10.30 02:58:30 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:SJW tears
Seriously, uninstall the game and go play STO.
You need it.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
611
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Posted - 2016.10.30 02:58:32 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Overstated rage Seriously get some professional help. You need it. Honestly, I agree with Mike. Any tactic that can be used for content creation has been nerfed over and over into the ground and miners/carebears want it pounded farther into the ground. Well, there are more than just miners and carebears who play the game. CCP can stop with the nerfbats on content creation, thank you very much.
If all this 'non-consentual' PvP bothers you, Hello Kitty World is that way ------->
Edit: I need to enroll in a spelling class apparently.
YC 117 New Eden Capsuleer's Writing Contest Submission - "Heartache"
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2016.10.30 03:07:42 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Overstated rage Seriously get some professional help. You need it. Honestly, I agree with Mike. Any tactic that can be used for content creation has been nerfed over and over into the ground and miners/carebears want it pounded farther into the ground. Well, there are more than just miners and carebears who play the game. CCP can stop with the nerfbats on content creation, thank you very much. If all this 'non-consensual' PvP bothers you, Hello Kitty World is that way -------> Edit: I need to enroll in a spelling class apparently. Actually non-consentual PvP bothers me not at all.
As I have said over and over, it is the lack of risk gankers have to put up due to the power of destroyers and the lack of consequences of being a negative sec status, especially in the -5 to -10 range.
The destroyers limit play in the sand box as their cheap fits and cheap ships don't lead to any benefit in hunting gankers, so part of the sandbox is lost. It makes industrials and freighters pathetic by example and not in any way cost effective to fly. As to the -5 to -10 these people are hardened criminals and the system should reflect that. At the moment it does nothing additional at all. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1900
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Posted - 2016.10.30 03:26:35 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:idiot tears
I told you to GTFO, since you obviously have no idea how the game works.
People like you are the reason Rookie Help Channel is completely useless.
You also have no idea how ganking works.
Here's a tip: it works EXACTLY as CCP wants it to work.
It's not NEARLY as easy as it used to be.
I wish I could have ganked you back when avoiding CONCORD was a skill move and not an exploit/bannable offense.
I bet you would have kicked your PC to death.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2016.10.30 03:33:53 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:idiot tears I told you to GTFO, since you obviously have no idea how the game works. People like you are the reason Rookie Help Channel is completely useless. You also have no idea how ganking works. Here's a tip: it works EXACTLY as CCP wants it to work. It's not NEARLY as easy as it used to be. I wish I could have ganked you back when avoiding CONCORD was a skill move and not an exploit/bannable offense. I bet you would have kicked your PC to death. Maybe acting like a big mouthed bully works for you elsewhere.
But seriously it just makes you like like a frightened little boy, scared someone is going to take your toy away.
I am sure this has been told to you many times in your life but grow up and get some professional help. |
Tiberius NoVegas
Stellar Exploration Consortium
12
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Posted - 2016.10.30 03:34:59 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:worthless pathetic drivel Keep your useless SJW...excuse me....'carebear'....garbage out of my game. I do not give a damn about CCP's financials. It's their company, not yours, not mine. If they screw it up so bad it fails, I have no doubt crybaby losers like you will infest my Elite Dangerous. And I will kill you there too. The fastest way they can kill their company.......aside from garbage like Vampy: World of Dorkness or another fiasco like DUST 514...... is to listen to anything 'people' like you....and I use the term loosely.....have to say about this game. You don't like PVP? DON'T PLAY EVE. seriously. GTFO Star Trek Online awaits you. And its even free. You can even mine there!!! So get lost, and we adults will not miss you One. Single. Bit. Oh, and I love how you SJW creeps...I mean carebears....just ASSUME the Alpha hordes are going to become gankers. One second.....HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA Aheh.......sorry, if anything, they will get sucked into the damn mining crap. At least they can only use Ventures, altho I expect to see Mining Vexors again. Maybe even a Mining Gnosis, since that's the biggest ship Alpha's can fly. This is a sandbox game, unfortunately for you. IF they all decide to go on a GANKING RAMPAGE, being they are all 12-year old idiots that just came from Call of Duty, then that's THEIR choice. Not yours. And if a bunch of Alpha's can manage to nail a freighter, then hurray for them. At least they are actually PLAYING THE GAME. Unlike you. So get lost. Don't come back. Ever.
Every sandbox game ive ever played has a set of irrefutable laws that govern them. What interesting about EVE Online is that CCP created the game universe with certain laws in mind and yet no matter how hard they try to enforce some of them, the players all ways find a loop holes some where.
For example lets talk about EVE economy, CCP has 5 Economist on staff constantly checking the economy to ensure nothing too crazy happens to it. The games mechanics are designed to help keep the economy from hyper inflation too much. yet you have scenerios such as when GoonSwarm flooded the Minmatar FW with farmers so they could turn the LP system in a isk making machine. CCP didnt think that would happen yet it did and you can see the result of that action in the economy and in the Minmatar vs Amarr FW. |
Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
612
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Posted - 2016.10.30 03:55:17 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Overstated rage Seriously get some professional help. You need it. Honestly, I agree with Mike. Any tactic that can be used for content creation has been nerfed over and over into the ground and miners/carebears want it pounded farther into the ground. Well, there are more than just miners and carebears who play the game. CCP can stop with the nerfbats on content creation, thank you very much. If all this 'non-consensual' PvP bothers you, Hello Kitty World is that way -------> Edit: I need to enroll in a spelling class apparently. Actually non-consentual PvP bothers me not at all. As I have said over and over, it is the lack of risk gankers have to put up due to the power of destroyers and the lack of consequences of being a negative sec status, especially in the -5 to -10 range. The destroyers limit play in the sand box as their cheap fits and cheap ships don't lead to any benefit in hunting gankers, so part of the sandbox is lost. It makes industrials and freighters pathetic by example and not in any way cost effective to fly. As to the -5 to -10 these people are hardened criminals and the system should reflect that. At the moment it does nothing additional at all. Ok, I see where you are coming from. But what do you don't know is how CODE survives while running as -10 was invented by them. I didn't understand until I went and ganked with them for one day. It opened my eyes how cunning CODE is and what they have to constantly do to keep themselves safe. Realize that the system they are active in is full of people whose main goal is to pod them and disrupt their activities, but they have adapted to that tactic too.
Before you villify them, I suggest you take one day and go fly with them and see their world and how they survive in it. It changed my perspective of them and now I am a Gallant. If I would mine, I would have a tank on it and watch local to be aware of my surroundings. And the tactics I have learned from them helped me when I did my solo highsec wardecs against miners/carebears.
Seriously, go fly with them and see what they do and how they do it. If you don't, then you have no right to complain about something you do not understand completely.
YC 117 New Eden Capsuleer's Writing Contest Submission - "Heartache"
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1903
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Posted - 2016.10.30 06:14:41 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:more pathetic tears
Maybe acting like a SJW...excuse me...'professional victim'.....gets you something somewhere.
In IRL and in EvE it just gets you contempt and disgust.
Which is why you hide behind a forum alt, since you lack the courage....in a video game....to deal with the in-game consequences of your self-entitled garbage.
Don't see why you bother to hide behind a forum alt, since you never undock, I bet.
You still have no idea how the game is played, you still have no idea of actual game mechanics, and therefore your so-called 'opinion' is not only Not Relevant, its basically Completely Useless.
In other words, what the rest of us call a pack of lies.
GTFO and go play STO, or Hello Kitty, or WoW. I hear WoW is Free (up to a point) and they have this new expansion-thingie that just came out. Go find out how good it is and come back with a report.
Better yet, don't come back at all.
You'll be happy, the rest of us will be happy (including CCP, who have actually stated they DO NOT WANT PLAYERS LIKE YOU) and your parents will be happy.
So go be happy.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1903
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Posted - 2016.10.30 06:20:40 -
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Tiberius NoVegas wrote:..... What interesting about EVE Online is that CCP created the game universe with certain laws in mind and yet no matter how hard they try to enforce some of them, the players all ways find a loop holes some where.......
Remember, EVE means Everybody vs Everybody.
Player vs player, players vs the devs........you know.......EVERYBODY.
The game where the devs hate the players , and the players hate them back.....
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Tiberius NoVegas
Stellar Exploration Consortium
12
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Posted - 2016.10.30 06:30:44 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Tiberius NoVegas wrote:..... What interesting about EVE Online is that CCP created the game universe with certain laws in mind and yet no matter how hard they try to enforce some of them, the players all ways find a loop holes some where....... Remember, EVE means Everybody vs Everybody. Player vs player, players vs the devs........you know.......EVERYBODY. The game where the devs hate the players , and the players hate them back.....
I think we got a lot more to hate the devs about with how long it takes them to give us any decent updates. |
Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2016.10.30 06:48:44 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote: Ok, I see where you are coming from. But what do you don't know is how CODE survives while running as -10 was invented by them. I didn't understand until I went and ganked with them for one day. It opened my eyes how cunning CODE is and what they have to constantly do to keep themselves safe. Realize that the system they are active in is full of people whose main goal is to pod them and disrupt their activities, but they have adapted to that tactic too.
Before you villify them, I suggest you take one day and go fly with them and see their world and how they survive in it. It changed my perspective of them and now I am a Gallant. If I would mine, I would have a tank on it and watch local to be aware of my surroundings. And the tactics I have learned from them helped me when I did my solo highsec wardecs against miners/carebears.
Seriously, go fly with them and see what they do and how they do it. If you don't, then you have no right to complain about something you do not understand completely.
I personally owe a lot to CODE and other gankers. For mining I use Skiffs, I live in a high sec security area as that cuts down CONCORD reaction time, All my ships excluding industrials have a good tank (Industrials don't because I cant seem to get an EHP over 15k), subsequently i use transports for anything expensive to a degree, my freighters are tanked as best as they can be, no cargo expanders. I have seen gankers explode next to me countless numbers of times and that does make me laugh. Gankers were the reason I went to Null and to wormhole space to live and to learn PvP and I learned a fair bit.
However this does not change my perspective of destroyers or on negative security status, both are out of whack in a risk vs reward are and they need to be changed.
Yes I believe that excessive ganking did lose the game a large number of miners but again, if people could not use cheap destroyers for the task but had to go into cruisers or above, the ganking would lessen and due to the increased cost of the armaments the gankers would themselves be a more viable target.
The same goes for the 3 minute bump timer they were talking about 6 months ago. This would ensure that a gank fleet had to be maintained closer to the gates and allow them to be ganked in return.
It is simply a case of risk vs reward and at the moment with the lack of effects on negative sec status and the over power of destroyers, it is broken. |
Dark Lord Trump
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
166
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Posted - 2016.10.30 08:22:06 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:Dark Lord Trump wrote: First of all, it's going to take at least 125M isk to gank a tank fit Obelisk, assuming max skills for everyone. I used an all T1 catalyst since that has the best ISK/DPS ratio. You also need a fleet of 58 people to pull it off, and that's not counting any support characters like a bumper, scanner/scout, etc. It also ignores any damage lost to incomplete volleys because I'm lazy, so in reality you'd need more, plus the overkill to ensure the freighter dies.
Also, who made the freighter so profitable to gank? The answer: the pilot. So if your freighter dies, and you want to know who is responsible, you only need look into a mirror.
Ok so 125m to gank an Obelisk, so the return point is therefore 250m in cargo. Due to the side effects of being - sec status is negligible at best, so no real cost to that. Subsequently a ship costing 1.3b cannot carry more than 250m in cargo because after that point it becomes profitable to be ganked. Added to this the ability to actually scan cargo and the risk to gankers is nill. Then there is the ability to bump subsequently meaning that a freighter can be stopped for as long as needed so that the ganking ships can come from another area, preventing their own ganking near the gate. The entire deck is stacked in favour of the gankers, as to alphas while they may need large numbers to gank a freighter. That is hardly the case for industrials, mining ships, frigates etc.. 125M is the absolute minimum cost for a tank fit freighter, and this assumes that you can get 58 gank toons that have perfect gunnery skills, and again this doesn't count partial volleys, volleys lost to faction police jams, and just general overkill to ensure the target dies. Most of the recent freighter ganks I see on zkillboard use a heathy number of Taloses or bombers, the former when T2 fit probably costs as much as the entire catalyst fleet. The accepted threshold of gankability is generally accepted to be around 1bil, but you can probably carry more if you use a scout/webber.
I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2992
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Posted - 2016.10.30 10:15:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote: Maybe even a Mining Gnosis, since that's the biggest ship Alpha's can fly.
Yeah, I seriously expect mining Gnosis and jet can miners will be a thing again. Fun times ahead
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2016.10.30 10:27:15 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote: Maybe even a Mining Gnosis, since that's the biggest ship Alpha's can fly.
Yeah, I seriously expect mining Gnosis and jet can miners will be a thing again. Fun times ahead Jet can flipping. Now that is something I do miss. I hope you are right and jet cans make a come back. |
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2993
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Posted - 2016.10.30 11:11:11 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote: Maybe even a Mining Gnosis, since that's the biggest ship Alpha's can fly.
Yeah, I seriously expect mining Gnosis and jet can miners will be a thing again. Fun times ahead Jet can flipping. Now that is something I do miss. I hope you are right and jet cans make a come back. Well the "flipping" is dead, it was removed years ago. But you can simply steal it. I do it a lot with my scout and an Orca if I see a jet can miner. I really look forward to the ore hold upgrade of the Orca because of this. I produce all the gank equipment including the ships myself, and I almost never have to purchase additional highsec minerals because that ore is truly "free".
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2016.10.30 11:14:28 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mark Marconi wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote: Maybe even a Mining Gnosis, since that's the biggest ship Alpha's can fly.
Yeah, I seriously expect mining Gnosis and jet can miners will be a thing again. Fun times ahead Jet can flipping. Now that is something I do miss. I hope you are right and jet cans make a come back. Well the "flipping" is dead, it was removed years ago. But you can simply steal it. I do it a lot with my scout and an Orca if I see a jet can miner. I really look forward to the ore hold upgrade of the Orca because of this. I produce all the gank equipment including the ships myself, and I almost never have to purchase additional highsec minerals because that ore is truly "free". I know it is dead, it was another victim of Crime watch. Which is a real shame, that is something I would like to see back. That was my introduction to being ganked.
Interesting idea on the minerals though. |
Scath Bererund
SergalJerk Test Alliance Please Ignore
28
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Posted - 2016.10.30 14:00:40 -
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CCP have been warned so many times about the ganking risk from alphas its not even funny.
Hell i think im gonna make a gank alpha and just roam around popping newbie ventures. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27031
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Posted - 2016.10.30 14:22:03 -
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Scath Bererund wrote:CCP have been warned so many times about the ganking risk from alphas its not even funny.
Hell i think im gonna make a gank alpha and just roam around popping newbie ventures. While people will use alphas to gank, Concord response times, and the alpha state restrictions on skills and ships, means that they'd have to hunt in large groups to kill big stuff, which should in effect keep much of their prey smaller unless they work hard for it.
I don't think we'll see CODE. or MiniLuv use them to a great extent for the same reason, numbers; their low SP members do use T1 cats, as would an alpha clone, but they're training into T2 cats because they're a damn sight better at the task.
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Scath Bererund
SergalJerk Test Alliance Please Ignore
28
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Posted - 2016.10.30 14:50:21 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Scath Bererund wrote:CCP have been warned so many times about the ganking risk from alphas its not even funny.
Hell i think im gonna make a gank alpha and just roam around popping newbie ventures. While people will use alphas to gank, Concord response times, and the alpha state restrictions on skills and ships, means that they'd have to hunt in large groups to kill big stuff, which should in effect keep much of their prey smaller unless they work hard for it. I don't think we'll see CODE. or MiniLuv use them to a great extent for the same reason, numbers; their low SP members do use T1 cats, as would an alpha clone, but they're training into T2 cats because they're a damn sight better at the task.
Covs and rets are still easily gankable in 0.6 and 0.5 systems which is the main cause of the drama
To be clear ganking isnt that big of an issue at current (tbh i think its vital to highsec) but the problem comes from the fact i could make multipe alts, set them training for the needed skills and forgwt about them until they are needed WITHOUT taking up one of my slots in a subbed account. |
Keno Skir
854
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Posted - 2016.10.30 15:41:17 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote: Maybe even a Mining Gnosis, since that's the biggest ship Alpha's can fly.
Yeah, I seriously expect mining Gnosis and jet can miners will be a thing again. Fun times ahead Jet can flipping. Now that is something I do miss. I hope you are right and jet cans make a come back.
Mark people like you used to say can-flipping was killing EvE and driving miners away (like that's a bad thing). They used to bleat about risk vs reward just like you
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2873
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Posted - 2016.10.30 16:25:45 -
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Scath Bererund wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Scath Bererund wrote:CCP have been warned so many times about the ganking risk from alphas its not even funny.
Hell i think im gonna make a gank alpha and just roam around popping newbie ventures. While people will use alphas to gank, Concord response times, and the alpha state restrictions on skills and ships, means that they'd have to hunt in large groups to kill big stuff, which should in effect keep much of their prey smaller unless they work hard for it. I don't think we'll see CODE. or MiniLuv use them to a great extent for the same reason, numbers; their low SP members do use T1 cats, as would an alpha clone, but they're training into T2 cats because they're a damn sight better at the task. Covs and rets are still easily gankable in 0.6 and 0.5 systems which is the main cause of the drama To be clear ganking isnt that big of an issue at current (tbh i think its vital to highsec) but the problem comes from the fact i could make multipe alts, set them training for the needed skills and forgwt about them until they are needed WITHOUT taking up one of my slots in a subbed account. You won't. If I have learned anything about most Eve players they are both lazy and fixated on ISK so they are not going to spend effort to train gank alts shoot miners in highsec for no reward. There is literally no point to it in isolation, and if they do for some real reason want to shoot things in highsec, an Omega clone is way better at it than an Alpha.
Besides, if they did they would only be helping the game. Highsec is in desperate need of content generation and if it takes some bloodthirsty alpha clones to generate it, so much the better. Antagonists are hanging on by their finger tips at this point in highsec, and without someone out there trying to generate content, nothing player-driven at all would be happening. Most forms of highsec player interaction have been completely killed, and with the watch list changes wardecs have been neutered by tedium, while constant nerfs to ganking have foreced miner gankers have to organize and provide a donation-funded SRP to keep going. Only hauler ganking seems to be at all healthy.
I am just glad the new NPE is reportedly sending new players to lowsec where they can actually see players interacting with each other rather than the barren, silent wasteland that highsec has become. Having recently mined "undercover" for while, I am amazed the previous NPE which sent newbies off to do this retained any players at all.
Sigh. Well, no one said saving highsec would be glamourous when I signed up.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.10.30 16:32:33 -
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Removed some off topic posts.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.10.30 16:43:25 -
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Scath Bererund wrote:Covs and rets are still easily gankable in 0.6 and 0.5 systems which is the main cause of the drama The max damage they can put out of a catalyst is not enough to kill a Covertor or a Retriever even in 0.5.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:I went from -6.2 (I was a bad girl...) to -0.1 with about 320m isk worth of tags. Now I just hit 5.0 yesterday, so do you know what that means? Time to gank and pod a miner back down to 3.0 sec status. Set me red, boys! Well, somewhat of a pseudo-success. Got the ship but not the pod. Went from 5.0 to 4.8 sec status.
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