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Ugly bast
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Posted - 2007.04.01 08:31:00 -
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Solo'd this mission in my typhoon no problem, guess you just got it wrong.
Never got below 50% armour, thought the mission was great 1 room six or so battleships and great bounties in relatively short time frame. Look forward to getting again
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Arakidias
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Posted - 2007.04.01 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Elain Reverse
Originally by: Boomhaur
Originally by: Arakidias Get out your passive Drake ;)
My thoughts exactly, I just got lv4 missions a few days ago and decided to say screw the raven and pimp out my drake, and posts like this make me happy I decided to do this. Plus theres the fact that I already own it, can still pop cruisers/frigs easily, and well mines 100% passive tanked
Well i have still drake too, but i prefer not kiling some BS for 15 minutes.
Hmm, my drake takes on average about 10 volleys to kill a battleship. Less on easy ones more on bad ones. So thats just a bit over a minute. yeah i know it can be done much faster with a raven, but i prefer to play it safe.
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Ratzap
Gallente Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.04.01 22:56:00 -
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Personally I like this one. Nice quick cash and salvage. But then I don't solo L4s in the real meaning of the word. I have my logistic alt along all the time and if my pals join in they either take over the logistic function or wait till the end of the night to get a split off the alt.
CCP wants people to use remotes on each other apparently. Either your buddies do it or an alt but it sure makes things a whole lot easier.
Ratzap
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Nymos
Fimbulvintr
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Posted - 2007.04.01 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Nymos on 01/04/2007 23:05:14 edit: nm, that was not serpentis. sry for the loss --
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Nalar Marnith
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.02 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nalar Marnith on 02/04/2007 06:15:19 I did this at L3 in a maelstrom. Was tanking it well enough, but it was taking ages to pop the ships and I wasn't getting bounties. Since I had the cargo I bailed on it.
Also being damped under 20k was pretty annoying, managable, but annoying.
If i'd been getting bounties, I probably would've had a cr4ck, but given that i'd completed the objective and had what I came for I wasn't interested.
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Remco Dekker
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Posted - 2007.04.02 06:36:00 -
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The main problem i have with this issue, is that we (as missionrunners) werenŠt informed enough about this change. Or maybe i missed that info somewhere in patchnotes ???
A simple line would have been sufficient, that the NPC behaviour had been changed.
I also lost my ship on this mission, but then again....maybe i should have used a cheaper ship for scouting before just jumping in feeling invincible
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.02 08:39:00 -
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I liked this mission, and had no toubles to do it in my Raven.
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Remco Dekker
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Posted - 2007.04.02 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I liked this mission, and had no toubles to do it in my Raven.
I guess us armor tankers have it a little more dificult when doing this mission.
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Vinhod Arkar
United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2007.04.03 14:55:00 -
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no probs in my typhoon solo - set for extra cap after the first time I ran it (also solo). Needed a couple of warp outs on first run, no warpouts on second. Modify your setup appropriately and it's not even a hard level 4.
Dry your eyes
Vin
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Elain Reverse
Caldari Shokei
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Remco Dekker
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle I liked this mission, and had no toubles to do it in my Raven.
I guess us armor tankers have it a little more dificult when doing this mission.
Actualy with EM/therm dmg they dealt its easier for armortank, shields have 0 EM resists.
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Aykido
Gallente Lobster of Babel
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Posted - 2007.04.03 17:27:00 -
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I thought any serious shield tanker rigs EM these days
Selling PERFECT PRINTS of 674 of the 730 seeded T1 BPOs: Ships, modules, rigs, drones, ammo, probes, components and capital mods, drones & ammo. (Cap Ships, Cap Components and Outposts 2007/2008) |
Ravenowl
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Posted - 2007.04.03 18:16:00 -
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well i have a simple answer... PASSIVE TANK..
heavy nos = pointless
actually ew stuff minus target disrupters = pointless
yeah.. you have to warp more .. just pop the warp disrupt rats and call it a day...
if ccp could balance passive a bit more.. it would be used a lot more then a bloody active tank that everyone and their mum uses..
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2007.04.04 07:20:00 -
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Okay, now done this 3 times, and a corpmate has now done it 2x.
We both fly Domis. I have 22 mill sp, he has 5 mill. We both have tank and drone focused skills.
Our basic fit: 5 cap 2's in the mids, 1 or 2 faction smarties, 2 Heavy NOS, 2x hards in each damage type (em/therm). 1 deadspace repper, or 2 t2 lar's...
result: 50% cap when being nossed, 65% if using Nos to counteract the npc nossing.
Tips: Kill the Harbingers when they pop up (those are the nossers), but kill the scramblers first. Be prepared for the respawn as soon as you kill one of the other ships, then sit back and relax. As long as you have cap, you have life. Just align before you kill the scramblers... once you pop those first, you can always warp out before being nossed to death or getting into trouble otherwise.
It's simple for a Domi tbh...
Of course, I don't speak of other ships or setups....
GL
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Drachma Golea
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.04.04 09:28:00 -
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Oveur: Dev-team, we need to take the bat through the current missions Oveur: to make the gap smaller between level 3 and level 4 missions Dev: So tell us lads on eve-o, what missions are your worst nightmares? Eve-o: Given the amount of time, the assault, worlds-collide... Oveur: Dev did you get any good respons, because I want to invent the new level 5,6 and 7 missions Dev: Yes, the eve-o lads had the following missions in mind... Oveur: Nice! Thank you! Oveur: Now, what is this all about on the pvp side Dev: Mostly ECM and NOS that needs the nerf bat what eve-o lads are complaining about Oveur: Let's give them a little education Oveur: Let's boost the level 3 and 4 so that 5,6 and 7 are more doable in PVP style gang wise Dev: They are complaining Oveur, NOS needs the nerfbat Oveur: I never said which bat I'm going to use, but for 's sake, not the nerfbat Dev: That means that Caldari is not the omgwtfpwndmissionrunning race anymore Oveur: I never liked them anyway Dev: But what should we train? Gallente? Oveur: Just take your polaris and see how hard it is now and stop complaining Dev: I'm not complaining, the lads from eve-o are complaining Oveur: You want war, you get war, we are boosting and hiking up gas-prices here Oveur: The noobs will be hardened warriors from the beginning! Dev: But how about the carebear running missionaries? Oveur: It is about time that they learn what it is like in a war Dev: Well GM's will get blown apart by the petitions they will be receiving Oveur: This is a war, they don't want a nerfbat, they get a bat and still not happy with it? Dev: but they can never tank this kind of damage! Jamming and Nos damage is a tough cookie! Oveur: We will introduce the next level of mods soon, a tech3 BS and allow Capitals into empire Dev: (starts crying now) Oveur: very nasty grin...
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Lyn Bunnions
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Posted - 2007.04.10 22:24:00 -
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1. Buy frig/shuttle 2. Get mission 3. Buy items of market 4. Take 5 minutes to warp to the mission system, AB at 1 km/sec to the warehouse and warp back to your agent as soon as the first spawn occurs. 5. Give him the items you pre-bought from market
Hello 2k LP made in 6 minutes of work(this includes the buying of the items and hauling).
Alternatively you could KITE the first spawn since the second spawns near the warehouse.
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Boomhaur
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.10 23:21:00 -
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First time I had this mission as a lv4 mission, took it in my drake, accidently triggered the second spawned, was doing good. Took a few minutes to take me down to 50% shield, figured I can hold out but was lagging, oh well nothing new. Turns out not all the enimies were in good range, POP goes the drake, guess thats what I get for not playing the resist game with those Blood Raiders. (used the normal setup against all resists, since I ran the lv3 version and didnt remember a second spawn, I couldnt be more wrong which led to my downfall)
Dude that Scammer just ninja'ed that Carebare's wallet!! |
Mik Nostrebor
Minmatar ORKS
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Posted - 2007.04.10 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lyn Bunnions 1. Buy frig/shuttle 2. Get mission 3. Buy items of market 4. Take 5 minutes to warp to the mission system, AB at 1 km/sec to the warehouse and warp back to your agent as soon as the first spawn occurs. 5. Give him the items you pre-bought from market
Hello 2k LP made in 6 minutes of work(this includes the buying of the items and hauling).
Alternatively you could KITE the first spawn since the second spawns near the warehouse.
I too lost a raven too the blood raider level 4 version. Warped in and trundled over to the warehouse. Got jumped by the first lot warping in (web/scram). Killed 1 cruiser and the BS's came in. My tank held up ok for a while and the BC that was running with me did ok. The DPS was huge though and I could not locate which ships were scramming me. My tank failed. I died. Scratch 3 ravens now to the new missions. At least it left most my mods behind in a pretty little wreck.
I hereby endorse Lyn Bunnions's idea. Maybe CCP have decided that not all missions should be won for force. They did mention that perhaps cov ops and inties etc might be ships of choice for certain missions. The only real thing I have to say is that perhaps a warning that missions should be scouted if they are unfamiliar. Perhaps a threat rating system from the agent might help. The missions description seems deliberately set to surprise you. Like the devs wanted a BS killing mission to see what would happen to the market or something.
Mik
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Boomhaur
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.10 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mik Nostrebor
Originally by: Lyn Bunnions 1. Buy frig/shuttle 2. Get mission 3. Buy items of market 4. Take 5 minutes to warp to the mission system, AB at 1 km/sec to the warehouse and warp back to your agent as soon as the first spawn occurs. 5. Give him the items you pre-bought from market
Hello 2k LP made in 6 minutes of work(this includes the buying of the items and hauling).
Alternatively you could KITE the first spawn since the second spawns near the warehouse.
I too lost a raven too the blood raider level 4 version. Warped in and trundled over to the warehouse. Got jumped by the first lot warping in (web/scram). Killed 1 cruiser and the BS's came in. My tank held up ok for a while and the BC that was running with me did ok. The DPS was huge though and I could not locate which ships were scramming me. My tank failed. I died. Scratch 3 ravens now to the new missions. At least it left most my mods behind in a pretty little wreck.
I hereby endorse Lyn Bunnions's idea. Maybe CCP have decided that not all missions should be won for force. They did mention that perhaps cov ops and inties etc might be ships of choice for certain missions. The only real thing I have to say is that perhaps a warning that missions should be scouted if they are unfamiliar. Perhaps a threat rating system from the agent might help. The missions description seems deliberately set to surprise you. Like the devs wanted a BS killing mission to see what would happen to the market or something.
Mik
I think they were just plotting againt mission running carebears, and indirectly made Pirates look nicer and friendlier. Last I checked I never had a mission rat convo me and ransom me . I know I wouldve just took the ransom to save my ship in a heartbeat.
and just for the heck of it I try to start something new Fear the GANK RATS!!
Dude that Scammer just ninja'ed that Carebare's wallet!! |
Brael Wenn
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Posted - 2007.04.11 00:34:00 -
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Hard to take you seriously, Boomhaur, when you mispell "Carebear" in your sig. Didn't anyone ever mention to you that spellcheckers are worthless? :)
I think the point some of you, like Boom, are missing is that some people don't want to pvp and don't want missions that are pvp clones. This mission isn't worth doing if CCP is going to keep the dozens of rats using EW. If CCP is going to put this in as a lvl 5 eventually, that's fine. If CCP intends to keep it as is, well, this "carebare" will keep declining it.
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Nalar Marnith
Minmatar Tetranex Consolidated
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Posted - 2007.04.11 00:54:00 -
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This mission is doable in a fast ship with a half decent tank. All you have to do is pickup the item and run.
It's only if you wanna hang around and bust things up that it gets rough. I'm really sick of getting damped. Given that I have 8x1400s, getting damped under 20k gets old really fast.
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Todaki Nambura
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.11 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Stratos
Originally by: Harisdrop Note: Every mission you dont know about go in a cheaper ship than my navy raven.l Maybe a dominix that is tanked with tech 1. After you loose your 100m get in your 4b navy raven fitted with pith and own with proper setup. After 4 years you can learn something new.
Ok lets try this again......
Unfortunalte not everyone likes to spread skillsd around and ebcom e a jack off all trades, some of us like being able to centered around 1 race only
This mission si ridculous and i hope he gets his ship back, the blood one ****** his tank hardcore, so i dont care how many of u did it and wanna brag, he had no nos fitted, having 8 corpus harbingers nos u usuijkng bs size nos means ur dead, end of story
lollerskates! You want some cheeze to go with your whine? Adapt, you ninny. If people can run these missions with readily available equipment, instead of cost prohibitive factionware, then you should look yourself directly in the eye, smack yourself on the forehead, say "doh! I goofed. Maybe I should change my tactics so I don't lose billions in ships and equipment!" and stop complaining.
I mean, really: regular joe items ftw and you guys lost all that factionware. lol
ignorance + arrogance = (get what you deserve)^2
Thanks. I needed a good laugh before bedtime ;)
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.11 06:35:00 -
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This one got us too, but in a more humurous way than losing a CNR
We had 5 corp mates running level 4s for training and fun, trying to use the TS server for tactics, etc. One of them pulled this and thought "okay, a courier mission". Told us to wait while he finished it and warped off.
Thing is this is our "tanker"; heavy tanked Domi, dual reps with injectors, 85%+ resists, etc. We also have tank assist ships we augment him with. And what did he take into this mission? His salvaging destroyer because it has more cargo capacity to haul the stuf with. Gets into it, several BS and support ships spawn and before he could think about warping got popped.
After much foul language on TS we jumped in and cleaned it up for him <-----------> Keiron: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=427556&page=2
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Per Bastet
Amarr B.O.O.M
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Posted - 2007.04.11 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Stratos
Corp: BOOM - Gotcha
O.o There is another Boom Corp Hiding out there? Weird
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shuckstar
Gallente Order of New Blood
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Posted - 2007.04.11 14:59:00 -
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Love that mission, makes missioning a lot more fun imo
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Castra Noor
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:13:00 -
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Sorry but this thread is stupid, please change the headlines, the devs are looking on this kind of threads and will take them away from highsec if people complain about new missions (read the devblog on this issue). It is expecially stupid to call for a nerf for this mission. Don't know if it was already mentioned, but you can do this combat lvl 4 mission in a shuttle! Buy the stuff the agent wants (quafe ultra for caldari version), fly in a shuttle, once first spawn appears fly back to your agent and finish the mission. Voila, no need to go with a CNR there.
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Blue Stratos
Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.14 14:07:00 -
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I do love how most of you are posting with how l33t ua re
He got his kit back so who cares, u all need to stop being immature
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait think the problem is found. last startup now.
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.14 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Stratos I do love how most of you are posting with how l33t ua re
He got his kit back so who cares, u all need to stop being immature
It's not how l33t they are.It's how badly you sucked.
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cptgone
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Posted - 2007.04.14 19:30:00 -
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Just tried this mission a 2nd time.
By the 3rd time i warp in, the game becomes unplayable due to lag. (I warp in, screen freezes for approx 20 secs, ship appears halfway through armour, i warp out, screen freezes, approx 20 sec later i see my ship again, in hull. 3 drones didn't make it back either - another old problem)
So again, i took the easy way out. I don't mind a challenge but this feels like turn based russian roulette.
Obviously, the lag / stuttering client problem is still here. But why make a mission that provokes it?
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Callthetruth
Caldari Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.04.14 19:39:00 -
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these are also good for those of us that follow around mission runenrs probe em out and either kill em and or nick their loot
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