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Exec
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:15:00 -
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----------WARNING RANT---------- <RANT MODE ON>
Since castor me and meny of my friends that play EVE on 56k cant play any more... If its not the 15 minuite login times it the fact it causes your dail up connection to drop every time i get into the game.
I play LOTS of other online games like E&B,CS,Dod,Cod,OPF,F1 2002,GTR2002, IL2 FB i even play planetside.. ALL on 56k and they are ALL rock steady..The connection dropps after about 3 hours on a bad day... EVE (since castor) drops as soon as i get into the game.. Most days it goes like this
Spend 10 mins logging in, Get into the game, Fly to a jumpgate,Disconnect,Spend 10 mins logging in, Get into the game, Fly to the next jumpgate,Disconnect,Spend 10 mins logging in, Get into the game, Fly to the next jumpgate,Disconnect and so on and so forth..
BEFOR castor i could play for up to 3-4 hours without a problem and even if i did disco could re-connect with no problem.. This is realy anoying me now..
I am not going to leave this game.. I will sit back and see if CCP can get it sorted..
P.S: dont reply with 'Get DSL' well its not available in my area.. And i wouldnt be so anoyed if eve said DSL or faster on the back of the box.. but it doesnt it sais 56k or better.. implying that its actuly PLAYABLE on 56k witch currently it ISNT!!
<RANT OFF>
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Navon Sky
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:23:00 -
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I second this. Using netzero I cannot get past the login screen. My modem hangs up about a minute into the process.
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Grandorr
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:14:00 -
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I do not have any problems running EVE on dialup. Yeah stay away from the big battles but its just fine. Beware the Spoons |
Minuz1
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Posted - 2003.12.25 01:08:00 -
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Quote: I second this. Using netzero I cannot get past the login screen. My modem hangs up about a minute into the process.
If your modem hangs up after 1 minute then it has nothing to do with eve since eve does not disconnect your connecton or rip the cord out of the socket....
A possible problem is an overload of code but I don't think there is any news data coming through now when approaching jumpgates....this is of course a amateurs comment and you should talk to a GM through the petition system...just write the petition up in notepad so you can actually send it before your connection breaks.
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Exec
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Posted - 2003.12.25 01:26:00 -
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well i afraid it IS eve dropping my connection. I play all sorts of other games witch are quite net code intensive and they dont disco for at least an hour..
I load up eve connect to the net, hit the icon, login < 10 mins later> i choose my char and get into space < 30 sec to 1 mins later> my net drops. And it does it EVERY time at any time of the day on all of the 3 different ISPs i have on my puter... and this has only been happening since castor.. befor castor i could play the game PERFECTLY..
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Lucas De'Thal
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Posted - 2003.12.25 11:05:00 -
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your problem most likely is same as me, you have a soft modem (meaning, it's a modem that uses software to handle all transmission - translations and stuff, unlike that of a hardware modem - external US Robotics or such)
2nd, post cast patch seems to have done something with the client where it uses almost 100% cpu (memory leak, bad programming, off loaded some stuff from server to be calculated on client, messed with the graphics, etc) and this will "steal" processor time which is used to maintain your connection thus you get dropped (anyways, something like that)
3rd, this happens mostly when i'm in windowed mode, so now i have to play full screen , which i hate.
that's about all. i've heard a few who it was graphic drivers for nvidia that were the problem. ______________________________________________ Hellmar > sorry for the attitude, playing a n00b character through the current state just left me a bit bitter dev chat: Mar 18, 2004
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Exec
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Posted - 2003.12.25 13:48:00 -
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i have a Hayes Accura V92 internal modem and i am pretty sure that isnt a softmodem. Infact i have been told that it has its own lil cpu to handle stuff.
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Sikk
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Posted - 2003.12.26 07:23:00 -
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Should it be of any interest, I've had to use a 56k modem for the past 2 months and over the course of those 2 months things have improved, not deteriorated.
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Exec
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Posted - 2003.12.26 13:23:00 -
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well i have tried 7 different modems from my mates and that hasnt solved anything.
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Pebble
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Posted - 2003.12.26 17:55:00 -
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If it is indeed a software modem, usually on the box it will say "Requires Windows 95" .. or something like that, as the software used cannot be run on other OS's. Or they will state a minimum CPU requirement.
If you can find which process the software modem is, its usually listed in the process list (ctrl+****+escape, under processes), than you can right click that process and choose "Priority -> Above Normal". This only works in 2000/XP. It will tell the operating system to give this process more priority over the others and thus allow it to run more smoothly. The other thing you can try is setting Eve to a lower priority, but I dont recommend this.
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Merry Christmas
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Posted - 2003.12.27 00:25:00 -
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I have Nvidia 128 Meg modem and had a similar problem with castor patch, but updated the drivers online and its OK now. Dunno if that helps you any?
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IZON
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Posted - 2003.12.27 00:57:00 -
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Seems like you need to do a trace route(?). I bet there's a major packet loss going on.
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Axel Terizaki
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Posted - 2003.12.27 01:43:00 -
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I'm using a 56k, and moreover on an AOL connection, and I NEVER had any connection drops. Maybe you should check with the LogServer for any hints of what might be going on, or maybe check your modem drivers...
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Brolly
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Posted - 2003.12.27 17:29:00 -
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Yups, I get the same problem with connection drops, loggin problems, but fortunately not all the time. The eve client seems quirky to say the least.
I have faffed with priority setting's in XP, setting eve lower as apposed to higher, that helped a bit. As for windowed mode, it seems okay...until you get IE and messenger going...maybe eve radio too
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Ezra
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Posted - 2003.12.28 04:31:00 -
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Quote: Yups, I get the same problem with connection drops, loggin problems, but fortunately not all the time. The eve client seems quirky to say the least.
I have faffed with priority setting's in XP, setting eve lower as apposed to higher, that helped a bit. As for windowed mode, it seems okay...until you get IE and messenger going...maybe eve radio too
This whole mess sounds partially like a problem I've had, although not in any way modem-related.
Periodically the network stacks of every machine in my house running EVE will completely crash. Only happens to the machines running EVE, and only when running EVE. Will always happen simultaneously. Nothing works until I remove the ethernet cable and reinsert it, and usually will FUBAR again within 5 minutes unless I reboot both machines at once. ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Xanadu Corporation |
Qwakrz
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Posted - 2003.12.31 23:39:00 -
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99% of V9x modems are now soft modems. If it cost less than ú30 ($40) then it will be a soft modem.
Soft modems can be broken down into 2 versions
HSP - Host signal processing - They convert the incoming analog signal into a digital stream. this stream is fed into the CPU and the data removed & any error correction done. This loads the CPU down as it does all the work.
HSF - (dont know acrynim) - This does have some inteligence on the modem but only so far as it can produce a raw data stream from the incoming signal. It does not do any error correct or compression. This is all left to the CPU
I have not seen an internal hardware modem for a few years now. The only true hardware external modem that I know of all run from the serial port of a PC. Some of the new USB modems are infact varients of HCF and HSP chipsets, the PCU does a lot of the work.
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Tangentoar
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Posted - 2004.01.01 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tangentoar on 01/01/2004 02:56:10 Ok so a soft modem uses cpu, in the days of P300 this was a bit of an issue. The most people get a 48k conection even with a 3COM External Modem. The Problem? ISP's are tight.
They say it is a difference between the vendors of the dialing and recieving Modems. This I doubt.
Software or not this shouldnt happen. Just for peice of mind, I suggest doing a Virus Scan.
A trace route will tell you about the number of ICMP packets which are sucessfully getting somewhere, but this is at a mucher higher level of the ISO model than the actual carrier which seems to be getting lost.
Frankly I have seen this type of thing happen before, but have no idea what causes it.
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Eoa Rena
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Posted - 2004.01.01 08:27:00 -
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My modem rums fine i can play eve for over 10 hours straight and have no problems, i somehow doubt its the client thats cuts your connection.
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Viglen
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Posted - 2004.01.02 02:10:00 -
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Hmm, I've played EVE since Alpha6, started on 56k and had a hell of a time downloading the clients, but it always played fine.
Then I mooved to ISDN, woahh that was heaven, but recently I got ADSL and that almost killed the game, it lagged beyond repair.
I had to contact my ISP and tell them that EVE wasn't a download server! Meaning that ALL ISP prioritise they're bandwidth, please make sure you send an email to your ISP and make sure that the eve servers aren't placed with bad ip's, they all do that, making a pool like 70/30 70 for http and games and 30 for ftp and downloads in general.
This saved EVE here in the Faroes and stopped alot of players here from leaving the game
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Maxtor
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Posted - 2004.01.24 09:42:00 -
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Quote:
If your modem hangs up after 1 minute then it has nothing to do with eve since eve does not disconnect your connecton or rip the cord out of the socket....
I have seen Eve drop my connection at the same time, under the same conditions, more than 50 times (and spread across a few months). Eve can certainly hang up a connection.
However, I havn't had any lag problems with my 56k. Eve actually seems to be a bit smoother, but that's probably because I logged on at 10 PM EST, so few people were online, and I wasn't near any groups.
get a sattelite connection :p Actually, you could just take apart a cell phone, get a few wires, and connect the transmission parts of the cell to your modem..
I've had problems with America's Army, my ping always seems to be the highest (usually around 400 or 500, when I'm not getting a serious problem), but not with Eve.
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2004.01.24 11:53:00 -
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I have had very few problems using a modem, and I live in Australia... Eve is by far one of the most responsive games i have played over a dial up.
Then again I don't PvP and I stay out of heavyily trafficed systems. - Ka Dargo. [ 2005.04.10 14:41:05 ] Your 425mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Dread Pith Massacrer, wrecking for 1271.6 damage.
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.01.24 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Xtro 2 on 24/01/2004 20:34:06 my game has constantly dropped from ingame, always at the afternoon to night time in UK, i thought it was the fact my ISDN couldnt handle the data coming in, however i now have ADSL, both instances i use a DLINK router, and both times EVE just quits, no messages, no errors, sometimes it says "Connection ot server lost" and thats it, its not my ISP as i also sit in my IRC room, and that stays on, only EVE disconnects, as i mentioned, im fine from say morning to 5pm, then it all goes to rats ****s after that...
all i try to do is mine with my corp mates, but its annoying when your trying to cover indies with your connection to eve dropping. __________________________________________
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2004.01.25 15:15:00 -
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Whatever problems you may be having must be client-side. Our CEO is on a 56k dial-up, and has had no problems connecting since Castor was applied.
Sorry mate. Try a re-install, etc, etc, etc... *shrugs*
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.01.25 18:51:00 -
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ive had 3 complete reinstalls, changes isp and connection type, it snot me, and saying its "client side" doesnt hold water, seeing as the patches/game is made to work on clients, theres obviously something the game devs have goofed, otherwise it wouldnt be so wide spread. __________________________________________
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2004.01.25 18:52:00 -
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Quote: I have had very few problems using a modem, and I live in Australia... Eve is by far one of the most responsive games i have played over a dial up.
Then again I don't PvP and I stay out of heavyily trafficed systems.
then your route/nodes you use for eve are ok? doesnt mean everything is all fine at camp crusty everywhere else... __________________________________________
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VOID DRAGON
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Posted - 2004.01.25 23:29:00 -
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im afraid to say that i have problems too since castor. before castor i would log on within 2 minuites on my 56k modem then play non stop for up to 5 hours, now tho it can take between 5-40 minuites to connect and i tend to disconnect at 2 hours ill be happy to wait for this to be fixed as this is a great game and i have every confidence in the developers.
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2004.01.28 05:45:00 -
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Quote: then your route/nodes you use for eve are ok? doesnt mean everything is all fine at camp crusty everywhere else...
Fair point... but australia is pretty isolated and I don't think our links to the UK are that great...
That said I hope they resolve your problems... ever thought of moving to another country? ;P - Ka Dargo. [ 2005.04.10 14:41:05 ] Your 425mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Dread Pith Massacrer, wrecking for 1271.6 damage.
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2004.01.28 12:25:00 -
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Maybe today's patch will help.
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cyberquirell20
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Posted - 2004.02.03 13:05:00 -
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ive played on 56k dial up for months with no probs untill that new patch came out now i cant even see my pointer any more,waiting for an answer to this prob from ccp any ideas guys pls email to [email protected]
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