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samuel222
Amarr
NCN Corp
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.04.01 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: samuel222 on 01/04/2007 20:43:49
Alrighty there peeps,
i've just decided to come back after a training break of around 3-4 months which leaves with me with my tempest i've been working on for a few months now and i wanted to know if the change of projectiles leaves my current fit lacking.... can you guys help?
My current fit is:
6 x Dual 650mm repeating artillery II
E500 Nosferatu
Large smartbomb (plasma me thinks)
100mn Afterburner II
20km scram
web
sensor booster II
Cap booster with 800's
Dual 'accomodation' rep
kin , therm, explosive hardener II's
gyrostabilizer II
3 x Ogre II
this is a solo and small group fit so any and all suggestions should be modelled around that, i just wonder if i should go with 800's rather than the dual 650's.. you guys know best 
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.04.01 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Azerrad InExile on 01/04/2007 20:48:16
5x Hammerhead II and 5x Warrior II
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.01 21:03:00 -
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thats all ya need really sounds perfect to me
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Copine Callmeknau
The Splinter Syndicate
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.01 21:48:00 -
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I'd swap hardeners for 2x eanm and dcu.
Nos is probably going to be better than that smartbomb, AB is dicey, see if yuo can squeeze on an MWD
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DeadRow
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.04.01 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
I'd swap hardeners for 2x eanm and dcu.
Nos is probably going to be better than that smartbomb, AB is dicey, see if yuo can squeeze on an MWD
Same about the hardeners, but the SB comes in handy for getting the Pod kills if your in Lowsec/0.0. Apart from that its a fairly Standard setup you got there.
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Zirth
Caldari
The Descent
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Posted - 2007.04.01 23:12:00 -
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Might be a good idea to use 5 medium 5 lights. Barely less dmg in theory, and practically probably the same due to heavies hitting less than lights-mediums on smaller and faster targets.
Also, a MWD is just nice to have. Even though you got great range, warping into a belt, trying to AB from 28km to 20km, and seeing him warp out just sucks. Could even ditch like the smartbomb if you have grid problems.
While you're at it, it's not an insanely expensive ship, but a 24km scram would be nice. Could consider rigs too, though they are a bit expensive, and are not insured. The way it is now if you die you get quite a bit back from insurance.
Very decent setup either way, should yield some sweet victories.
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Wrayeth
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.01 23:34:00 -
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You'll need a MWD. There are too many ships (hyperion, mega, astarte, domi, etc.) that you have to maintain range on to survive, and an AB doesn't give you enough speed to do that.
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Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.02 05:27:00 -
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6x Dual 650mm II
2x Heavy Diminishing Nos
1x Quad MWD
1x Faint Warp Prohibitor
1x Fleeting Web
1x Heavy Cap Booster II
1x Balmer Tracking Disruptor
2x Large Armor Rep II
2x EANM II
1x DCU II
1x Gyro II
1x PG Rig
1x Aux Nano Pump
1x Aux Thruster
Aux Thruster is there to give a bit more speed over blasterthrons and to counter the speed penalty of the repper rig.
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Zirth
Caldari
The Descent
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Posted - 2007.04.02 05:41:00 -
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You currently got so much cap to burn. A MWD is essential, best bet for you is to never get in another BS's range cause your tank isn't key to your setup. You got dmg and range, but more cap than you can use, and no speed to use the range to an advantage.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.04.02 09:09:00 -
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I've long dubbed myself between a MWD and AB and i find for me the difference in 'speed advantage' is too small to notice and the extra cap is just sooototally worth it (with fuel conservation lvl 5 the AB takes close to 0 cap, lol).
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
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Chavu
The Shadow Order
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.02 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
I've long dubbed myself between a MWD and AB and i find for me the difference in 'speed advantage' is too small to notice and the extra cap is just sooototally worth it (with fuel conservation lvl 5 the AB takes close to 0 cap, lol).
A MWD will make you go 3 times faster than an AB. If you have an AB and your opponent has an MWD, you have zero speed advantage, he dictates range completely, if he wants to shoot at you at 500m or 25km, he can easily pick the range and keep it. The difference is huge, blasters will tear you alive at 500m and won't hit you at all at 25km.
I like watching player videos and the losing party a lot of times fits an AB. I wish I had opponents that did that, once I watched a stabber rip apart a Jaguar and other t2 frigs because they were going about 1-2k and the stabber going over 3km/s. Hence the frigates would try to catch the stabber, 0 transversal and they popped very fast.
Good Tempest setup, I would use a T2 Warp Disruptor, they are fairly cheap and the gives the Tempest more falloff to play around with. With the cap booster yeah you can drop 1 NOS for one smartbomb. Fit falloff, damage and capacitor capacity rigs if possible.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Guardians of the Dawn
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.02 10:25:00 -
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well but an AB is the best thing you could have when fighting against a Raven (you can keep 23/7 with the AB on, no sig increase (20% damage red due to size with tempest... 25% reduction on damage by speed)
Somehing that I am always in doubt is between thje dual rep and the 1 rep + plate tempest.
The diminished Cap usage helpsa lot.. and allows me to fit nice Neutraslizers to completely cripple their tank.
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AsfALT
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.04.02 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: AsfALT on 02/04/2007 11:20:00
Tempest has some advantages over other ships:
-speed which translates in range control
-no cap use on weapons--very nos resiliant
IMHO you should work ur setups around these
There are a few aproaches:
-mega pasive tank with ab and neuts (2*1600mm plates, 2*web and preferably t2 trimark rigs), very good baiter
-mwd and some speed rigs with less tank but more gank.
The mega tank consits of around 36k hardened armor and i think it's best used for solo work against multiple enemys (as u are not relying on ur speed the oposite tacklers mean nothing to u)
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.04.02 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chavu
Originally by: Sokratesz
I've long dubbed myself between a MWD and AB and i find for me the difference in 'speed advantage' is too small to notice and the extra cap is just sooototally worth it (with fuel conservation lvl 5 the AB takes close to 0 cap, lol).
A MWD will make you go 3 times faster than an AB. If you have an AB and your opponent has an MWD, you have zero speed advantage, he dictates range completely, if he wants to shoot at you at 500m or 25km, he can easily pick the range and keep it. The difference is huge, blasters will tear you alive at 500m and won't hit you at all at 25km.
Well, thing is most fights in small gangs happen within web range...especially since i oftentimes fly alongside a huginn so they get pinned down from the second they are locked - thus i dont need it. 1v1 i can see advantages for the MWD, but in the type of fight im usually in, more cap = life.
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
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samuel222
Amarr
NCN Corp
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.04.02 21:24:00 -
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Ok looks as if i need a mwd almost indefintily but i like my setup and dont know how to fit it without rigs..
my previous experience with rigs as 200mil worth on my tempest to be lost within 3 hours... to a dominix that was half into structure mind 
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