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Annette Durado
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 18:49:48 -
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I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).
So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.
So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two? |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
540
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Posted - 2016.11.25 18:51:39 -
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Annette Durado wrote:I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).
So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.
So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?
what's wrong about it being unlimited?
Just Add Water
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Annette Durado
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 18:57:22 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Annette Durado wrote:I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).
So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.
So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two? what's wrong about it being unlimited?
I just think that saying the game is now 'Free to Play' is a bit misleading, as you cannot do the free stuff for long as you out-skill the free bits and need to sub, realistically. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
45975
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Posted - 2016.11.25 18:57:50 -
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Did you pay anything to be able to login and play the game?
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
249
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Posted - 2016.11.25 18:58:48 -
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yo bro.... it's a scam from CCP... it's pretty obvious, isn't it? return to play your other games |
Annette Durado
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:05:32 -
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Ha, good to see the fanboy toxic community hasn't changed. You really cannot say anything negative about the game without people scrambling out of the woodwork in defence of everything. Was to be expected - it's why people don't stick around. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:09:29 -
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Well, when you're wrong you're wrong.
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:12:00 -
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Annette Durado wrote:Ha, good to see the fanboy toxic community hasn't changed. You really cannot say anything negative about the game without people scrambling out of the woodwork in defence of everything. Was to be expected - it's why people don't stick around.
In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve.
Sounds like your a alt that got brush out. NEXT! |
Annette Durado
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:12:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Well, when you're wrong you're wrong.
In other people's opinion obviously, but it's how they go about telling you that they think you are wrong. As I said, usually a pretty toxic community and why people come into the game and leave. Numbers dwindling so it would be better to be more adult when responding to people who make a fair observation even if you don't agree with it. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:20:11 -
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Annette Durado wrote:Numbers dwindling. You sure about this?
We're Back in Business ,
have your very own Meeny Faced Bastards on call today
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:21:10 -
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Annette Durado wrote:In other walks of life, people can make a comment without being attacked right away, but never in Eve. Who's attacked you?
I think what you are complaining about is a misinterpretation of what CCP have said, but I wouldn't attack you over it and I can't really see any evidence if attacks in anyone else's posts either. Just having a different view isn't an attack.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Cybrupt YouTube
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:24:34 -
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Well since I came to see the free part of the game I have to admit the first mining ship I looked at to buy required a subscription so I just rolled my eyes and thought about playing Phantasy Star Online for free instead, lol. Pretty sad really, lol. But I have a life these days and don't really play video games. The thing is youre always getting screwed when you play a video game. Paying to waste your time and life is a double slap in the face. and these hardcore losers who have several accounts running at the same time etc have serious problems. i dont have a problem with it having free low level stuff. you can get your fix and leave like I always do and know you can use the same account instead of making another trial account. Even when I paid I didn't really wanna play this crappy game. It's a cool game just crappy. |
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
130
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:25:03 -
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But, it is free? You can play as an alpha for free. And alphas can be pretty effective, and this isnt the one ajd only iteration. Just like RuneScape let you do things without a sub. If you want to do more things you need a sub. It's literally the point of these types of things to dangle the carrot.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
13169
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:30:42 -
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Annette Durado wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Well, when you're wrong you're wrong. In other people's opinion obviously, but it's how they go about telling you that they think you are wrong. As I said, usually a pretty toxic community and why people come into the game and leave. Numbers dwindling so it would be better to be more adult when responding to people who make a fair observation even if you don't agree with it.
In that case, may I partake of your possessions and skill points, if the community is too toxic for you to continue here?
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
6019
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:34:51 -
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Annette Durado wrote:So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free.
Take some time to consider what the free content of EVE is: you get access to every player and every place that you get access to with a subscription, and you get access to a limited subset of equipment with which to challenge your fitting and piloting skills.
Annette Durado wrote:Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?
CCP extended the trial by more than a month or two. There's nothing wrong with a never-ending trial account.
Annette Durado wrote:you cannot do the free stuff for long as you out-skill the free bits and need to sub, realistically.
There's no "out-skilling" your network of friends. You can keep working on that as long as you are drawing breath. Friends are more powerful than skill points.
Remember: Friendship, best ship.
Day 0 Advice for New Players
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
45978
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:36:31 -
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wrong point. My bad.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
249
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:38:35 -
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Cybrupt YouTube wrote:Well since I came to see the free part of the game I have to admit the first mining ship I looked at to buy required a subscription so I just rolled my eyes and thought about playing Phantasy Star Online for free instead, lol. Pretty sad really, lol. But I have a life these days and don't really play video games. The thing is youre always getting screwed when you play a video game. Paying to waste your time and life is a double slap in the face. and these hardcore losers who have several accounts running at the same time etc have serious problems. i dont have a problem with it having free low level stuff. you can get your fix and leave like I always do and know you can use the same account instead of making another trial account. Even when I paid I didn't really wanna play this crappy game. It's a cool game just crappy.
ayyyyyy "I HAVE A LIFE" ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy glad you have one LUL
i have one too, but i'm on the nerdy ones side ughhhhh........... what you see as slaps in the face i see it like a WALL to leave filthy casuals like you out of "my" precious game. Hardcore losers... yea call me that way
@OP if you refer to my post as toxic, you may have misread it: i am against alphas clones, just find hilarious that people read about alphas limits and think it's really f2p (it's only an unlimited trial): only fake advertisement by ccp, and i'm more impressed by how many people actually believe that advertisement |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
6019
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:40:45 -
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Cybrupt YouTube wrote:Paying to waste your time and life is a double slap in the face. and these hardcore losers who have several accounts running at the same time etc have serious problems.
What about the people who spend most of their play time on the forums? I bet they're some kind of super-lowlife nerd, since they waste their lives not even playing the game! Sheesh, it must suck to be them.
Day 0 Advice for New Players
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
493
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:41:10 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Just having a different view isn't an attack. Dude... it's 2016. Your different opinion is offensive to me! |
Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
249
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Posted - 2016.11.25 19:42:17 -
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Maekchu wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Just having a different view isn't an attack. Dude... it's 2016. Your different opinion is offensive to me!
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy Caldari State
137
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Posted - 2016.11.25 20:00:26 -
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Didn't read all posts but yes...
Free to try....
correct...
Unlimited trial
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
21093
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Posted - 2016.11.25 20:10:50 -
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Extending trial period to infinity is one step ahead of what you proposed, effectively not better than what you are able to complain about.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò =ƒÜÇ
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2016.11.25 20:58:34 -
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Annette Durado wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Annette Durado wrote:I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).
So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.
So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two? what's wrong about it being unlimited? I just think that saying the game is now 'Free to Play' is a bit misleading, as you cannot do the free stuff for long as you out-skill the free bits and need to sub, realistically. From the World of Warcraft site, for their free to play
"World of Warcraft-« Starter Edition Become a defender of Azeroth and play FREE up to level 20! Experience multiple classes and races and discover the hero thatGÇÖs right for you. Embark on epic quests, delve into perilous dungeons, and begin exploring a vast and ever-changing world."
Pretty much the same thing. Free to Play. You are just confusing free to play, pay to win games with actual free to play "Starter editions" as it were. |
u3pog
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
784
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:02:01 -
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I hope you never see this game completely free to play, because the support and new content will die with it and then you'll cry. These people (the devs) have to eat too you know... |
Astrador
Falcon Agency
7
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:17:51 -
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As ccp has workers which may have family or kids to feed and dont get food, living, and so on for free i think its pretty fair that they want Money for this game.
I am wondering how some guys think they can get everything for free.
And I have a live to, and yeah a job where i earn enough money so i dont bugger around with "oh no, its not free stuff". And yes, i dont even pay real money for the Omega clones, because u can earn this easy in the game without beeing there 24/7.
So get your ass up, collect bottles or something if you are not able to earn the subscription fee ingame. |
Valkyrie Harkonnen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:32:59 -
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Annette Durado wrote:I'm a former player that has come back because the game is 'free'. I didn't really want to pay as Eve is just one of many games I am interested in (others are single player, one off cost and some MMOs that I bought to play).
So I log into the 'free' Eve and nothing is free. Any skill I need to develop requires a paid sub as I've got the basic ones already. The ships I already own, I can't fly because I need a sub.
So in effect, Eve isn't free to play, it's free to try and when you actually get a few skills, you cannot progress or do anything meaningful until you sub. Why not just extend the trail period for like, a month or two?
Like you said, its free to try.
Start your EVE Online experience with 250.000 extra skill points!
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
368
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:56:04 -
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Annette Durado wrote:Various toxic posts
The reason you are getting the reaction you got is because of your title and original post. You instantly opened with hostility and telling us how CCPs version isnt good enough for you. Get off your self entitlement trip, learn some respect, and how to talk to people and you will get much further in life. Your current attitude will get you nothing. Change the attitude or just assume everyone you interact with is "toxic".
Now im going to be nice and tell you how to play eve for free, since you were to busy ranting because it wasnt "free enough" to actually do anything outside of ranting.
1) Buy and fit a ship you can fly to do your PVE activity of choice.
2) Do PVE activity.
3) Save isk up.
4) Buy a PLEX off the market.
5) Activate said PLEX.
6) You now have 30 days of Omega clone.
7) Use Omega clone to earn more isk in shorter period of time
8) Repeat steps 4 - 7 on a monthly basis.
You have not spent any real money on the game. You now have full access to the game like everyone else. You will not have to spend any money on the game in the future as long as you earn enough for a plex a month. Which a decently skilled omega can do in less than 20 hours a month. You are now, for all intents and purposes, playing for FREE.
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Kosomot
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2016.11.25 23:45:33 -
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Maekchu wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Just having a different view isn't an attack. Dude... it's 2016. Your different opinion is offensive to me!
Hilary Said so it must be true.
I think the best term to describe eve is freemium.
the idea is simple
here is a free portion of the game play as long as you like.
the longer you play the more likely it is you will convert to a subscription based model or use plex.
if 5% of new players convert to paying that looks good on CCP's bottom line and thats good growth for them.
I'm a HUGE Fan of the new players coming to the game.
Alpha clone brought me back, and 5 days in, boom 3 month sub.
that's what CCP is looking for.
I am a miner, mission runner, and explorer...
or as EVE Online would have it...
A Carebear!!
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
249
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Posted - 2016.11.25 23:51:49 -
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Kosomot wrote:Maekchu wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Just having a different view isn't an attack. Dude... it's 2016. Your different opinion is offensive to me! Hilary Said so it must be true. I think the best term to describe eve is freemium. the idea is simple here is a free portion of the game play as long as you like. the longer you play the more likely it is you will convert to a subscription based model or use plex. if 5% of new players convert to paying that looks good on CCP's bottom line and thats good growth for them. I'm a HUGE Fan of the new players coming to the game. Alpha clone brought me back, and 5 days in, boom 3 month sub. that's what CCP is looking for.
wasn't difficult to figure it out LOL #MindGames |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8074
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Posted - 2016.11.26 04:39:14 -
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EVE is free to play, with restrictions on what you can use to play it. You can play the whole game, every aspect of it, you just can't use everything. But far be it for me and my 'toxicity' to remind you that giving you anything for free at all is more than you've paid for. I'd call that pretty generous of CCP, but of course, despite paying nothing, you're gonna feel ripped-off anyway. You won't see it this way, of course, but the only thing you are a victim of is your choice to be a victim here.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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