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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3227
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Posted - 2016.11.30 23:14:48 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:I was gonna suggest WH heisting but this is the next best thing, and quite a bit easier and less time consuming. Haa, I was in a w-space corp once (my main Karak Terrel) and we only recruited on gunpoint, you know what I mean. This was how I joined the corp. And there was a guy we recruited who stole stuff from the corp over moths. we finally found out who it was, kicked him..
After about a year we found him, in another w-space system, with a new corp and POS and everything. We infiltrated his crop, we killed him mining in a battleship .. when he least expected it. we sieged his POS and obliterated his corp. It was glorious.
Yeah, if I think about it.. go to w-space if you have the time.. it is so much more entertaining than highsec :-)
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8154
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Posted - 2016.11.30 23:19:13 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I was gonna suggest WH heisting but this is the next best thing, and quite a bit easier and less time consuming. Haa, I was in a w-space corp once (my main Karak Terrel) and we only recruited on gunpoint, you know what I mean. This was how I joined the corp. And there was a guy we recruited who stole stuff from the corp over moths. we finally found out who it was, kicked him.. After about a year we found him, in another w-space system, with a new corp and POS and everything. We infiltrated his crop, we killed him mining in a battleship .. when he least expected it. we sieged his POS and obliterated his corp. It was glorious. Yeah, if I think about it.. go to w-space if you have the time.. it is so much more entertaining than highsec :-)
His mistake was stealing stuff over time.
He should have taken it all in one go when everyone else was offline, after getting enough trust to take control of the POS('s), change their passwords in case anyone logged in, and then load up an alt or alts with freighters/dsts/whatever and get everything out of their quick smart. That is a heist. What the guy you caught doing, my heisting buddies and I call 'shoplifting'. It's small-scale and short-sighted. You don't take anything before the big one. If anything, you give the corp lots of cool stuff to gain their trust. A real heist requires investments like this, especially in time.
Do it this way, and there's no need to siege the pos. You can just repackage it and put it in a freighter.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3228
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Posted - 2016.11.30 23:29:05 -
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Mefju Andedare wrote:Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too, and they have feelings etc. No seriously. I can understand what you say and this was what I thought years ago as well. But there is some point in the game I don't know... where you have to draw a line..
I mean it is ok for a few days to experience EVE as a game where you can grind resources for free without challenge. But at some point your really have to notice that this game is not the normal MMO grind game but a PvP sandbox where it is basically possible that your ship gets exploded and your **** will be stolen at every given time if you let your guard down.
I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
827
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Posted - 2016.11.30 23:33:56 -
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Tremaine Holden wrote:Being rich in real life of-course!
Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX?
Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be??
As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8156
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Posted - 2016.11.30 23:40:08 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Mefju Andedare wrote:Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too, and they have feelings etc. No seriously. I can understand what you say and this was what I thought years ago as well. But there is some point in the game I don't know... where you have to draw a line.. I mean it is ok for a few days to experience EVE as a game where you can grind resources for free without challenge. But at some point your really have to notice that this game is not the normal MMO grind game but a PvP sandbox where it is basically possible that your ship gets exploded and your **** will be stolen at every given time if you let your guard down. I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works.
Translated TL;DR - if you grind for 6 hours, and then lose it all to someone who doesn't share your sensibilities about the feelings of the player on the other side of the ship, you're the one who's going to be hurting, and wondering why you just wasted six hours of your life.
As an aside, I think someone is trying to infiltrate my corp at the moment. It's kinda funny and I might just let them because my corp has three people, no assets, and a whole lotta downtime between fights for dealing with attempted awoxers. Like, seriously, can someone try to awox me please? I'm bored af.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4731
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Posted - 2016.11.30 23:46:07 -
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Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:I'm reasonably confident that Faction Warfare will have the best isk\hr for the least sp investment. You also get the added benefit of being in a pvp rich environment filled with some of the most talented solo/gang pilots out there. Even if you spend 99% of your time dying horribly in cheap ships, you'll still be racking up lp and pvp experience. It's the Osmosis Academy of PvP. FW is really fun, to me at least. If you go with that, you might want to get into the Gallente-Caldari war. It's much more active than the Minmatar-Amarr one.
I've never done them, but incursions are excellent isk-earners, no?
Start the bubble machine!
-Lawrence Welk
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
379
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Posted - 2016.12.01 00:04:00 -
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Mefju Andedare wrote:Was trying a little bit of exploration for past 2 days, but got nothing exept wormholes. Not a single data site/relic site. Really like it, but it seems I'm unlycky (or doing sth wrong). I
Thats because you are doing it wrong. All the good loot is in the WHs and your passing those up. Low class Whs have high paying sites in them.
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PopeUrban
El Expedicion Flames of Exile
241
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Posted - 2016.12.01 00:31:16 -
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Mefju Andedare wrote:Was trying a little bit of exploration for past 2 days, but got nothing exept wormholes. Not a single data site/relic site. Really like it, but it seems I'm unlycky (or doing sth wrong). It was my first choice plan for my career, and I even started to train myself into that
So far mining's generating for me the most income, though it's kinda boring. I'n not enjoying afk-playing that much.
I like PVP overall, but I don't know if I'd be good at PVP in EVE.
I'm currently moving around high and low secs.
If you're scanning for sites in hisec you are wasting your time. Even if you find wormholes in hisec, they're going to be the first place every alpha that heard that relic sites are decent money have already been and cleaned out, and more often than not the conntcting chains to them will also already be used up by those same players. Find your nearest losec entrance. Start scanning for wormholes, jump in said wormholes and start looking for sites and more wormholes.
Once your cargo starts filling up, either go back the way you came and sell ****, or look for another wormhole chain that gets you back to hisec to sell stuff.
The trick to exploration is you have to be willing to dive deep and risk your ship to make money. The deeper the chain the less likely it is someone got to it before you did. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
799
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Posted - 2016.12.01 00:50:58 -
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https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/evelopedia/index.php/Cosmic_Anomaly
RIP Evelopedia
Anyway, if you scroll down to 'escalations' you can see the sites that are marked with a 'c' and that means it was confirmed that those sites actually do escalate to the site that is indicated there. This is a list for rated DED sites.
I find these sites very entertaining and you can get some sweet green and blue loots and faction BPC's for ships and stuff.
When I was new, I followed the tutorials and then the SoE epic arc like you're supposed to, but after that I was quite lost as to what direction to go. Discovering and trying out Cosmic Anomalies is pretty fun and it gets you undocked and out there which can also create some competition and it gets really interesting if you're lucky to see that.
@lunettelulu7
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Conrad Makbure
Trident Expedition
116
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Posted - 2016.12.01 01:19:24 -
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Mefju Andedare wrote:Hi guys!
I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take?
Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome.
PvP is a valid career path, with multi account you can blast space truckers and take their stuff.
Exploration has the thrill element because you can get engaged at any moment in WH/low/null.
The rest of the stuff for earning income in this game is straight boring, like watching paint dry kind of boring. It's all supposed to be, I think, as a form of punishment for losing a ship in pvp or pve and having to replace it. That sounds like icelander logic to me. |
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Loutro Fift
The Killer Cockatoos Initiative Mercenaries
30
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Posted - 2016.12.01 01:35:54 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Tremaine Holden wrote:Being rich in real life of-course!
Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX?
Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be?? As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL.
Good point. After spending way too much time ratting for small isk and/or getting blown up...I'd rather spend a few real life $'s, have the isk in the wallet and spend quality time in Eve. Ratting, grinding is not quality time.
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Isaac Armer
Wish to Dream The Blood Covenant
349
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Posted - 2016.12.01 01:57:54 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works.
code, then this? Don't you want to try a playstyle that's actually difficult or challenging? I mean...infiltrating a corp like that is fairly trivial....
This is the FPS spawncamping equivalent of EVE... |
Pix Severus
Empty You
5138
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Posted - 2016.12.01 04:02:56 -
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I don't know why people always insist on a "career path" to follow in EVE, you can just do whatever you feel like doing. Try not to think in such limited terms when it comes to this game. When you login, think of what you want to do right at that moment, and then go do it. You will find what you're really looking for in this game if you do this.
MTU Hunter : MTU Hunting 101
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8157
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Posted - 2016.12.01 04:15:38 -
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Isaac Armer wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works. code, then this? Don't you want to try a playstyle that's actually difficult or challenging? I mean...infiltrating a corp like that is fairly trivial.... This is the FPS spawncamping equivalent of EVE...
Yeah cuz high-sec mobile tractor units are so challenging, aren't they.
Come on then, Mr Challenging, if high-sec ganks aren't a challenge, you can show us how they're done with ease.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2555
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Posted - 2016.12.01 04:23:09 -
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OP, what a person finds fun is completely subjective. Only you can answer what is fun for you.
Don't try to get enough isk for a plex as an alpha clone (or a new omega clone for that matter). That has a high chance of frustrating you away from a good game. Just buy a subscription and thereby free yourself to try a few things in EvE you find interesting. The ways to make isk for you will come along the way.
EvE security zones in pictures
EvE quick reference pdf
A wise man sums up EvE
Smoke me a Kipper...
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Alasdan Helminthauge
HC - Krushaar Securities
4
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Posted - 2016.12.01 04:31:51 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:
As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL.
I don't know which country you're from and how educated you're, but in my place $20 is a day's work for average young workers. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
799
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Posted - 2016.12.01 05:08:44 -
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Pix Severus wrote:I don't know why people always insist on a "career path" to follow in EVE, you can just do whatever you feel like doing. Try not to think in such limited terms when it comes to this game. When you login, think of what you want to do right at that moment, and then go do it. You will find what you're really looking for in this game if you do this.
This is the best advice so far.
@lunettelulu7
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
316
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Posted - 2016.12.01 05:26:52 -
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If you already know how to scan & thinking about mining, read up on gas mining. Ninja gas mining in WH can be relatively safe with the right fit & precautions, and the ISK is better than whatever you can mine in HS for the same period of time. You probably won't be able to stick around & fight off the sleepers at this level, so you'd be gas mining for 15~20min window before sleepers spawn, so you won't be mining for hours on end, while the reward can be similar to mining HS ores for hours.
"When faced with my demons, I clothe them and feed them,
and I smile, yes I smile as they are taking me over" - Strange Glue
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Mark Marconi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2016.12.01 05:36:09 -
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The most profitable career in EvE is the one you enjoy doing the most.
If looking at asteroids for hours while you relax is your thing then thats it.
Blapping someone else and stealing their stuff tickles you then thats it.
After all PI is profitable and I personally enjoy it but for most people it is like watching paint dry and if you spend too long doing something you don't like then your entertainment turns into work and that gets old really fast. |
Geronimo McVain
EVE University Ivy League
257
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Posted - 2016.12.01 06:55:26 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Tremaine Holden wrote:Being rich in real life of-course!
Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX?
Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be?? As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL. This. Buy a Plex and the starter Game is much more fun. At the moment you are worried what to do if your ship explodes and you loose all your money. If you have 1,2B Isk you can try what is fun to you and don't need to worry about money. With a 10 day char you can only earn peanuts and if you have 2-3 month to search for fun instead for Isk you have the skills do make real money. FW is good as long as you remember that you destroy your standing with some factions and know the consequences. WH can create a lot of money at high risk. Ninja mining can make excellent money but read some WH guides first, there are a lot of things you need to know to make the money and make it out in you ship and not in your pod. |
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Serafiel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2016.12.01 08:48:15 -
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3 pages in this thread, and noone linked this:
What to do in EVE online flowchart
OP - go look thru it, pick something or other that sounds good and resonates, and try to achieve. |
Isaac Armer
Wish to Dream The Blood Covenant
349
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Posted - 2016.12.01 23:48:23 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Yeah cuz high-sec mobile tractor units are so challenging, aren't they. Come on then, Mr Challenging, if high-sec ganks aren't a challenge, you can show us how they're done with ease.
The difference is I never called myself out as a PvPer. I like PvE and exploration. Try harder though, there isn't any real PvP in HS. I'm hunted in WHs and NS 90% of the time I play and almost never die. Get out of HS and risk hunting me if you want.
Don't believe me if you want, I don't care. My ePeen doesn't have to be bigger than yours. |
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
828
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Posted - 2016.12.01 23:51:41 -
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Alasdan Helminthauge wrote:I don't know which country you're from and how educated you're, but in my place $20 is a day's work for average young workers.
I only have my own experience, but I was making $20/hr as a waiter in the US as a teenager. |
CaseyLP
H.O.N.K. Sixth Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.12.02 00:07:46 -
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In my opinionated opinion, I would say exploration.
2 isk.
Beep beep!
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Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
979
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Posted - 2016.12.02 12:40:40 -
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Fly something cheap, go everywhere and stay curious. - I found a POS without shield but some arrays while scanning for lost drones and sold the location because I couldn't afford the wardec at that time. - I found a AFK freighter inside a WH when doing relics that dropped 1 Billion in loot, I could only carry 150 Million away, but anyway. - When they changed the "seekers" to "lancers" I saw a marauder attack those. He put two down before he exploded right in front of a station and I got the loot, the salvage and some nice modules from the poor sod. - I found a full side of Golden Cytoserocin after I followed a auto piloting hauler into low-sec. - I found a gecko right in front of the jita undock.
I tried ninja gas huffing, exploring, salvaging, hauling and drone rescue but what got me the most ISK was just poking around in space. Evry of those happy little accidents made more ISK than all my planned endeavors combined. |
Alexis Red
Red Corporation
8
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Posted - 2016.12.05 06:26:01 -
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Mefju Andedare wrote: Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training
Honestly, if you intend to grind for a plex, you'll get burned out quickly. If you like mission running, just stick to playing around with level 2 and 3 missions with an alpha clone and don't worry about plexing.
Log in when it's fun and not for a job.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
10316
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Posted - 2016.12.05 06:33:56 -
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Mefju Andedare wrote:
Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun...
I was going to suggest buying PLEX and selling them for an income of over a billion ISK per minute.
Then I realized that buying PLEX to sell to buy PLEX would be kind of a dumb suggestion.
vOv
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8054
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Posted - 2016.12.05 08:45:02 -
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Mefju Andedare wrote:Hi guys!
I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take?
Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome.
You ask the oldest question in the game.
And there is no answer.
A career in this game is what you make of it. Find the one you are best at and you will make the most you can with it.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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LulKlz Duster
LulKlz
8
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Posted - 2016.12.05 15:50:48 -
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i prefer to make my isk mining rocks. And my corp mate manufacturers. And sell the extra stuff |
Xavier d'Aigre
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.12.06 02:33:56 -
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I tried all the things people always say in these threads, and I've thought each of them was the end all be all for about a week before I got tired of them. The best solution I've found is finding a few you like that work well together. For me, I mine like once or twice a week, then use that to make ammo. I then go fw for a while and turn the ammo faction with LP. Then I sell it. I market trade a lot, but more out of habit than anything. But all those careers work well for me. Also station trading is a good way to make it out of the "I'm new and everything is so expensive" phase. Ammo is your friend, and so is the loot your local rats drop that people actually use. Good luck, add me in game if you'd like and I can help you out. |
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