Ashterothi
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2016.12.05 22:14:29 -
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mkint wrote: The way I see it, it's a huge problem to have official discussion happen outside of official communication channels. Think about it... you wouldn't get walmart discussing developing business on twitter. That'd be ********.
A major goal of the CSM is to facilitate communication between the playerbase and CCP. How they feel they should go about that best is totally up to them. The forums have never been a very effective communication platform, and many of the other services (Reddit, Slack, Twitter) offer certain advantages that obviously work well with a lot of people.
The short of it is, if you want people to respect your communication, then be public, organized, and open to discussion. In my experience the forums often lack these things.
Additionally, most of these guys gained support via these other platforms, or however they reached their constituents. It makes perfect sense they would continue to use those mechanisms to talk with their people.
Simply criticizing the process isn't enough. If you really feel there is another way, then support that better way, hell it worked for Xenuria.
mkint wrote: I think it's a mistake when only the people who take part on a particular 3rd party platform are the ones who are listened to, or get news first (or sometimes at all), which happens all the time with EVE and CCP.
There is no goal for one platform to be more listened to than another. I have seen forum posts make big changes, these are often well argued and in the feature and ideas forum.
mkint wrote:Jin'taan wrote:mkint wrote:only the people who take part on a particular 3rd party platform are the ones who are listened to, or get news first (or sometimes at all), which happens all the time with EVE and CCP. Please provide an example of this. See it all the time over the years, at least with CCP. As posted earlier in the thread, CSM only posts about once a week at best. Most commonly with CCP we'll see feedback threads for sisi or upcoming features where players will bring up an issue and CCP says "well, we asked reddit/twitter/etc, and they disagree, so we're not going to make any changes based on your feedback." And then it inevitably ends up being a big issue. Or a player will say "why didn't you tell us about this important thing?" and CCP responds "well, we tweeted it, follow us on this other 3rd party communications platform." Personally, it also bugs me when news is announced at a gathering/event, and then no formal recap until months later when finally there's a dev blog 3 days before it goes live, but at least that's more or less an *official* channel. It's often a casual "oh, yeah, so I was messing around on reddit..." by a dev making his first post to the forums in months or years. Maybe I notice it more because it irritates me especially that CCP doesn't seem to give 2 greasy squirts about their own communications platform. That at most they view it as an unfortunate obligation.
This is not an example, this is a diversion argument. If you want I can provide a counter example.
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