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Hawk Roxy
Teutate raiders The-Culture
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Posted - 2016.12.03 15:33:27 -
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I recently lost a T3 cruiser on a null-sec gate camp and don't understand why. If someone could shed some light on this I would be greatful.
The Tengu was equipped with Covert Reconfiguration and Interdiction Nullifier subsystems and also a Covert Ops Cloaking Device II.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/57611487/
So I jump in O-ZXUV and notice there's a small gang waiting for me at the gate. So as usual I clicked warp and cloak right after but that failed as I was insta-locked by the Svipul. I tried to get rush to the gate but you know what happened.
So my question is: If done correctly I should be able to warp and cloak before the insta-lock svipul warp disrupts me, correct?
I tried today with a covert ops Helios to warp and cloak immediately but it fails if I click cloak too fast. The error is:
15:16:27 Notify Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time.
Is this normal behavior?
Thank you for your advice
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2016.12.03 15:52:25 -
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It might be "dirty gate". Trash deployed on the gate perimeter so you can't cloak and warp away.
Edit: BTW did you try to fight?
I am the 85%
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Hawk Roxy
Teutate raiders The-Culture
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Posted - 2016.12.03 16:00:11 -
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No I didn't want to compromise my chances to jump back |
Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
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Posted - 2016.12.03 16:29:59 -
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it's only luck...... or better....
https://www.themittani.com/features/understanding-eve-online-server-tick
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2016.12.03 18:11:58 -
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Yeah the article Soel linked explains it in great detail, but basically if the Svipul has a very low ping and you have a relatively high one, it is possible that he could lock you before you cloak.
The best way to mitigate your risk in this situation would be to modify your fit to either much faster or much more tanked when you are traveling so that you can get back to the gate if/when you do get caught. It's inconvenient to change your fit but it is safer, a fair trade-off if you ask me.
The other way to think of it is cost of doing business, brush it off and just keep doing things the way you have been. You were just unlucky as it seems by looking at you KB you have operated just fine in null for quite a while.
"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2016.12.03 18:26:12 -
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Well few days ago two svipuls was trying to catch my 3.5 align time tengu. I even had a message about it, but managed to escape. Something about warp disruption.
I am the 85%
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Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.04 00:37:45 -
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Dirty gates are dirty. If you landed within 2 clicks of anything then you die. bad luck |
Sara Starbuck
Adamantine Creations
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Posted - 2016.12.04 01:52:55 -
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Shouldnt you hit cloak first if you have the covert one, it dont prevent warping. But if the gate was full of junk then ofc it woulndt have mattered. |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2016.12.04 09:36:59 -
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Hawk Roxy wrote:15:16:27 Notify Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time. You will get this message when you try to use modules while under the "gate cloak". I got this today when using MWD+cloak trick. Problem is I hitted align, ship started to turn but can't active MWD and this message pop. So what is the time to drop gate cloak and use a module? Because it's not instant, or it doesn't looks like.
I am the 85%
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Soel Reit
Dambusters 617 Sq
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Posted - 2016.12.04 09:44:25 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Hawk Roxy wrote:15:16:27 Notify Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time. You will get this message when you try to use modules while under the "gate cloak". I got this today when using MWD+cloak trick. Problem is I hitted align, ship started to turn but can't active MWD and this message pop. So what is the time to drop gate cloak and use a module? Because it's not instant, or it doesn't looks like.
it's 1 tick, aka 1 sec
or better: you need to wait that the tick in which you spam align button end. |
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Hawk Roxy
Teutate raiders The-Culture
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Posted - 2016.12.05 04:26:20 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Hawk Roxy wrote:15:16:27 Notify Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time. You will get this message when you try to use modules while under the "gate cloak". I got this today when using MWD+cloak trick. Problem is I hitted align, ship started to turn but can't active MWD and this message pop. So what is the time to drop gate cloak and use a module? Because it's not instant, or it doesn't looks like.
That's exactly the problem, you need to know at which exact point in time you can click the cloak button and I didn't find an easy way too do so yet. If you're too early, you get the above message, if too late you're already locked and screwed... |
Rei Y
Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation
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Posted - 2016.12.06 14:54:34 -
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Hawk Roxy wrote:Jeremiah Saken wrote:Hawk Roxy wrote:15:16:27 Notify Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time. You will get this message when you try to use modules while under the "gate cloak". I got this today when using MWD+cloak trick. Problem is I hitted align, ship started to turn but can't active MWD and this message pop. So what is the time to drop gate cloak and use a module? Because it's not instant, or it doesn't looks like. That's exactly the problem, you need to know at which exact point in time you can click the cloak button and I didn't find an easy way too do so yet. If you're too early, you get the above message, if too late you're already locked and screwed...
watch your cap. when it drops a notch, it initiated warp already and you can use cloak. |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2016.12.06 15:17:07 -
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Rei Y wrote:watch your cap. when it drops a notch, it initiated warp already and you can use cloak. To this I will add an idea I was given years ago. When you hit the first button state out loud the tried and true one one thousand and then hit the second button generally but not always this will take you to the next server tick.
I found that spamming a command in that situation does not seem to help. I have nothing but personal experiences on this but getting back to the gate will not happen any faster simply because you spam the command, but spamming the command may slow the servers response to subsequent commands simply because it is processing all the spam.
In the end several of the others have been honest about this, CCP simply does not want you to be able to escape in ALL situations so no matter what you do there will always be a chance to get caught. |
Baggo Hammers
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Posted - 2016.12.06 20:17:52 -
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Other than latency, as one who has lost their share of T3s in Null, was probably drones or cans that prevented your cloak.
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
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